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yeah.. we worry about very little when we see shit from eternity. this life was just a moment once you get to heaven..like a bad dream and the you awake and everything is forever.. oh..shit... not for most of you.. but for me.. hehe.. cause i do something to reach heaven
I disagree. Disagreement can not be seen with the eye. Conflict can, sometimes, but not the clash of ideas.Quote:
you can only use words to demonstrate something that can be seen with the eye
So when do you regain consciousness after death? Is it when your body first blinks out, when theres no chance of survival, when the brain is fully dead or what?Quote:
yeah.. we worry about very little when we see shit from eternity. this life was just a moment once you get to heaven..like a bad dream and the you awake and everything is forever.. oh..shit... not for most of you.. but for me.. hehe.. cause i do something to reach heaven
you regain the conciouss you achieved at the end of your last life... but this takes time too. with new birth you donīt have the same conciouss like in the end of your last life... cause you get pushed back spiritually as long you need to get reborn...
Its too late for this shite. Cant take it serious. Im callin it a day. This is true. Peace out cuntos. Keep it wu.
disagreementQuote:
Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
is the reason why you cannot use words to discuss unseen things
any time somebody discusses something that cannot be demonstrated
you can say: i disagree
words are not as dependable as we make them out to be
if real life begins with being rotten i dont want to live. :>>>>Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
Peace and respect, Koolish
I can only offer my definition of the truth, as revealed to me by His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Please understand I am by no means attempting to argue with the originator of this thread. Rather I am only trying to offer food for thought from my humble perspective.
Explaining truths in so-called scientific terms, as many on the leading edge in the scientific community are discovering is arduous at best, as modern-day science is really nothing more than a secular, pagan religion in and of itself; it has its own preist class (scientists), its own creation theory (the "Big Bang"), as well as its own "houses of worship" (laboratories). This is not at all to say that the sciences have no place in the modern-day world, as it is science that allows us a greater understanding and appreciation of both nature's microcosm and macrocosm, as well as God's truly awesome and infinitely-complex design for all things in this multiverse.
Speaking solely for self, my point of contention lies in the fact that science has also been used to perpetrate and reinforce lies throughout history, thusly tainting its inherent authenticity. Moreover, any scientist emerging with undeniable evidence to the contrary of what is generally believed to be accepted as fact within the scientific community is at best met with relentless scepticism or attempts to be discredited (excommunication). Prime examples of this can be found in history, such as Kepler's explaining celestial mechanics or even Martin Luther's sparking the Protestant Reformation.
Conversely, science has throughout time been used to bolster false beliefs, such as Darwin's theory of evolution, despite the fact that the scientific community of his time bitterly rejected his theory, as they recognized it was nothing more than a figment of his imagination, backed by his arbitrary gathering of evidence. For if humans and primates do in fact share a common ancestor, how did they manage to "luck up" and force themselves (and nature) to evolve? To state plainly: Darwin's theory was used to deny, discredit and disown irrefutable and tangible proof of the Asiatic man's contributions and foundations to global civilization, which nowadays in this country is paraded and masqueraded as "intelligent design."
This being said, his Holiness the Dalai Lama teaches that authentic truth is that which can withstand 360 degrees of objective and subjective scrutiny, examination from each and every angle, and pass the test. This is known in philsophical terms as the center (of an argument) being able to hold.
I look forward to anyone building and adding on to this thread.
One Love, One Blood, One God. Peace.
Untrue. Anyone can follow the scientific method. It requires no study, special knowledge or special skills. Its simply a method of study. Also, anyone can second guess a scientist. There are various ways to do so. You can simply replicate the experiment and check their results or you can propose a new theory and do your own experiments. Not so with any priest class.Quote:
it has its own preist class (scientists)
This is true, yet the implication is false. Big Bang Theory is not a static theory. It can be second guessed. The second something better comes along, scientist will abandon it. Is this so with the religious? If I show a god to be a sham, will people stop following it?Quote:
its own creation theory (the "Big Bang")
Untrue. Worship is basically rverence by those holding a set of beliefs. A labratory is used for testing beliefs. Completely opposite functions. The religious equivalent would be jumping from cliffs to show the power of God would save them. Needless to say, testing God is not done.Quote:
as well as its own "houses of worship" (laboratories)
Prove the belief is false.Quote:
Conversely, science has throughout time been used to bolster false beliefs, such as Darwin's theory of evolution
So? What others believed AT THE TIME, is irrelevant. Its not that time anymore.Quote:
despite the fact that the scientific community of his time bitterly rejected his theory, as they recognized it was nothing more than a figment of his imagination, backed by his arbitrary gathering of evidence
They didn't. They forced niether themselves nor nature to do anything. Thats not what the theory of evolution says, nor is it what natural selection says. You just made that up. Much like a good part of your post.Quote:
For if humans and primates do in fact share a common ancestor, how did they manage to "luck up" and force themselves (and nature) to evolve?
How? As far as i know, his theory had nothing to do with civilization.Quote:
Darwin's theory was used to deny, discredit and disown irrefutable and tangible proof of the Asiatic man's contributions and foundations to global civilization, which nowadays in this country is paraded and masqueraded as "intelligent design."
lol if god placed man here in his image, why did he bother with dinosaurs first? evolution is evident in all animals, why did the wooly mammoth die out after the ice age? how many elephants are covered in a woolen coat?
why do humans looks differnt to the neandrathuls we came from?
we adapt and evolve in a changing environment
humans are still evolving, but slowly, we grow bigger as we eating more.....the average man is definately taller than 100 years ago
evolution is a natural thing, most animals go through it...humans just think of themselves of overly high regard
after all we are just animals anyway
its not evolution
its always been about genetic engineering
through overt(medicines/tv/science) or covert means(drugs in food and water that fuck with our minds)
selection of the species is so far from evolution its a ajoke
evolution has never happened.
what do u think the metaphor means in the jacob/yakuub story?
peace
But how come in over 2000 years only shit changed on you humans is height and skin colour?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
its because we dont live in forests and caves anymore. back then only the "best", the strongest humans survived but nowdays you wont be eaten by a bear if you cant run fast or climb a tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
we have changed more than skin color and height
rofl
But how come in over 2000 years only shit changed on you humans is height and skin colour?Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
By that I mean, why have no evolved to a point where we have wings, 2 nobs, transparent skin etc? lol.
U must be a funny lookin murfucker then shang tsung.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
we became todays humans because only the smartest cavemen have survived. now the advanced medical science and our society stopped the evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
if we had to go back to the caves and some animals ate everyone who couldnt jump high enough, we'd be able to jump 5x higher than todays men in a few 100 or 1000 years. or we could even fly(lol).
Im no askin you how we got to todays humans for fuck sake. Im askin why has evolution stopped dead? There is no evolution. Knowledge leads to better nutrition and diet. Better nutrition and diet leads to growth.Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
and thats what im talking about. evolution stopped because the weak ones dont die anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
So even if weak 1s died back then, who evolved? The strong 1s right? If we all strong as you put it, why no evolution? See my point. This is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
the evolution isnt dead at all. its slower now but it still exists. we may need thousands of years to go through changes but the evolution still works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
Im sorry but I need factual evidence to see that shit. If you believe that you must be mental ;) But yo, same wit monkeys man. They cant produce a man-ape coz they say our chromosomes dont match n shit. So how could we have possibly been monkeys. My dicks well too long to have even been a monkeys penis. This is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
lol
funny shit
carry on with ur lame disses bad man. its all good..
u get to see the snake in people :)
do u knpw how addictives and chemicals and hormones
change ur genetic structure/
u canot see this on the phsycial level
but in side many are fuckedup
im a heave to make a thread on additives and preservatives i see..
just to educate u dim wits
U will never see my snake! Get the fuck outta here wit that man!Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
English people.....
im not english im british/indian/african
u had no idea what i meant by snake either..
do u listen to wu?
since im not a biologist nor an archeologist i cant show you evidence. but if youre a skillful thief you can get some from the museums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
we werent monkeys! we have a common ancestor but thats all.
btw i bet gorillas have bigger dicks than you do. :>
rofl with the dick comment
but serious
we have more in COMMON WITH CLAY AND DIRT ( ADAM MEANS OF RED CLAY.. CATCH THE METAPHOR) than we do with chimps and monkeys..
science doesnt want to dwell to much on this.. but it still says that
the dna in dirt is the same as ours.. exactly the same properties
but in a differant order..(code)
peace.
Much u wanna bet?Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
Im just messin wit u shang man. In 1 of those moods today fam. Course I listen to Wu and know wit u meant by snakes. I just felt inclined to talk about my penis. Peace out cuntos, got shit to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
hard qestion. hmmm. i got it! if your dick is the smaller the gorilla will fuck you, but if your is the longer you can fuck the monkey, ok?
Shit, some things have damn near never changed. Evolution is a SLOW process. Also, some things HAVE changed. Sickle cell?Quote:
But how come in over 2000 years only shit changed on you humans is height and skin colour?
Look at alligators. Evolution doesn't work like that.Quote:
By that I mean, why have no evolved to a point where we have wings, 2 nobs, transparent skin etc? lol.
Buy some fruit flies and evolve them yourself.Quote:
Im sorry but I need factual evidence to see that shit.
Not how it works. A monkey didnt just give birth to a man one day. Not what the theory suggests.Quote:
But yo, same wit monkeys man. They cant produce a man-ape coz they say our chromosomes dont match n shit.
Dirt does not have DNA. Find me one scientific source that speaks on the DNA of "dirt".Quote:
we have more in COMMON WITH CLAY AND DIRT ( ADAM MEANS OF RED CLAY.. CATCH THE METAPHOR) than we do with chimps and monkeys..
science doesnt want to dwell to much on this.. but it still says that
the dna in dirt is the same as ours.. exactly the same properties
but in a differant order..(code)
Man, I love how people just make stuff up.
okie dokie mr Os3ry3s
i will do
and nice to have u back
peace
Glad to be back. Missed yall, believe it or not.
lol we evolved more than height and shit bbm
check the size and chape of a neandrathul cranium
the way they were built, we climbatise and evolve slowly
evolution as os says isnt like magical shit, its adapting to the environment
sharks and reptiles are pretty much the only unevolved animals since before man cus they are perfect at what they do
Ummmmm.... Naw. Donno if thats wit happens over there when you meet a dude wit a bigger dick than u, he rapes your rectum, gorilla or not. Im straight as the definition of straight itself. Pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by belfalo
Shit, some things have damn near never changed. Evolution is a SLOW process. Also, some things HAVE changed. Sickle cell?
Thats a disease man. No aesthetics.
Look at alligators. Evolution doesn't work like that.
Course. They just havent evolved. Period.
Buy some fruit flies and evolve them yourself.
I dont believe in evolution.
Not how it works. A monkey didnt just give birth to a man one day. Not what the theory suggests.
But you say we were once monkeys. Surely we would have some traces in the genes?
Man, I love how people just make stuff up
Me too.
- Regardless, its good to see ya back Si. I dont believe in this mans theories on evolution, but he evolved my slam dunkin skills, him and esco way back. So I appreciate that a lot. This is true :yes:
Peace.
Craniums, bones are growin coz knowledge gives man a better diet and understanding of what makes shit grow. Animals also get wiser to wit they eat, and get bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
Evolving in wit way besides size?
we call it "hungarian roulette".Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
No, its not a disease. Its an African trait that builds immunity against malaria when you have one recessive allele. Have two is quite troublesome, obviously, but the trait is useful with just one.Quote:
Thats a disease man. No aesthetics.
Not at all? They're smaller for one.Quote:
Course. They just havent evolved. Period.
So? You can still develop new traits in bacteria, fruit flies and other quickly mutating organisms. Once you're done with your experiments, call the results what you will.Quote:
I dont believe in evolution.
Isnt the theory that we share a common ancestor? And there ARE similar genetics. Look at the features. Look at things like the tail bone and shit. Where'd we get THAT from?Quote:
But you say we were once monkeys. Surely we would have some traces in the genes?
False. Regardless of what traits an animal gathers during his life from various experiences, he won't pass them on to his offspring. Thats Lamarckism and its simply wrong. If proper nutrition leads to greater height, then why can two families eat the same shit, but produce offspring in line with their own height? Height is not an acquired trait, but to a large degree, genetically predetermined.Quote:
Craniums, bones are growin coz knowledge gives man a better diet and understanding of what makes shit grow. Animals also get wiser to wit they eat, and get bigger.
Donno man. Wit you say makes sense, but many people outgrow their predetermined height.Quote:
Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
Don't misunderstand. Nutrition and the like DO affect height. However, its passed along like all other traits. Consider identical twins. Have you ever seen a set that weren't roughly the same height? That right there shows its a genetic thing. Their diet wont have any great influence on their height. Their acquired height boosts throughout their life from surgery to diet to whatever, won't be passed along, making genes the primary influence as far as the community as a whole is concerned.Quote:
Donno man. Wit you say makes sense, but many people outgrow their predetermined height.