Whats Your View On Jesus?

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Originally Posted by omarphi215

I believe in things that are actually and physically real are lol...real. WIth that said, when I watched zeigeist and it talked about the sun and the correlation to the idea of Jesus and the fact that all of the stories in the bible about jesus are etched in stone in the pyramids, which were made thousands of years prior to jesus, I can't believe in Jesus the way the BIble portrays him. I think some one wicked yet wise used the "story" of jesus to basically control the people. Same could be said about almost all religions though.

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Explain how religion is made to control people please.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Muhammad

This is a question for another thread...

My purpose for the post was to give an idea of how I, as a Muslim, view Jesus...and why.

RM

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Ok ! When will u respond me ?

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

what about all those people who have faith but are suffering

and how can they have faith in someone they really don't believe

most jesus fanatics really don't believe in jesus - and they don't know that they really don't believe in jesus or god - they think they do - but they really don't - all programmed behavior

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U mean dat im a fanatic ? anyway u right but in fact i havent the answer cause i dont know everything bout Jesus and I dont know feelinds of people who are suffering ! So u right man

nah - i'm not calling you a fanatic

i'm saying that too many people who claim to believe in a god the way they say they do, really don't believe in god - they havn't searched or studied or even thought about the belief they have - its just everyday to say that you do believe in god - most never take it beyond that - most really don't believe in god

i'd recommend this book to anyone interested in the historical jesus:
http://www.centuryone.com/images/5773-X.jpg
"james the brother of jesus" by robert eisenman

Salaam (Peace)...

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

...too many people who claim to believe in a god the way they say they do, really don't believe in god - they havn't searched or studied or even thought about the belief they have - its just everyday to say that you do believe in god - most never take it beyond that - most really don't believe in god

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You wanna know what a person BELIEVES?

Watch what they DO!!

RM

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

nah - i'm not calling you a fanatic

i'm saying that too many people who claim to believe in a god the way they say they do, really don't believe in god - they havn't searched or studied or even thought about the belief they have - its just everyday to say that you do believe in god - most never take it beyond that - most really don't believe in god

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I was juss jockin man ( for fanatic )! Yeah u right but there is sumthin dat I dont understand for u people who juss say dat "I Beliebve" dont believe for real ?! right ?!

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Originally Posted by FMJ

Good points.

Just because Jesus was etched in stone pyramids does not mean he came to the people in that time period. It could have been a prediction just like other scriptures which mention future prophets to come.

If one did not read those etchings and interpret them for themselves, how could they know the true meaning? What if these zeitgeist people and others are 'wicked men' twisting the meaning of the etchings to mean that a prophet bearing the likeness of Jesus already came?

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up

2pac, Bob Dylan, and Bob Marley were printed on album covers and people go wild over it.




Yesterdays idols may be false prophets or may be.

He manipulated billions of people into believing some fairytale, he's my fucking hero

Jesus did exist, they just gave allot of the qualities of earlier myths to him.
Realize the stories about him were not written during his lifetime, they had to fill allot of the gaps by themselves.

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...so where do the myths end and reality begin? If the stories were written after he was "alive" how can can you be sure he ever was alive?

HETEPU

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Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon

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...so where do the myths end and reality begin? If the stories were written after he was "alive" how can can you be sure he ever was alive?

HETEPU

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I'm not sure this is just what I think is likely.

Somebody might've just thought the messiah from the old testament was a good subject for a book

..fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Jasjit

He was a great teacher and i believe a lot of what he truly was was changed by constantine, for example his birthday isnt really december 25th as debated about by many people, that was really the birth of saturn i think it was the greek god, and i guess it was easy for them to change it to dec 25th and make that his birth as well, whether jesus was real or not his teachings will always be remember, i believe he was real and not a white man, more of an olive man like arabs or indians or possible a black man. Anyways i am not a christian muslim or jew but i believe in jesus and his teachings, he was a very enlightened man and i sincerely believe he was not god, possibly he was sent by god but not actually god in the form of man.

and ghostlaced all those dieties are sun dieties, jesus has been morphed into a sun diety but originally was not one, and he was originally saturday worhsip, thats the day of the sabbath but it was changed to sunday as christianity went along, possibly it happened at the council of nicea, where they established a lot of the facts about him, birth place, birtdhay all that stuff.

yea their is evidence of prophey issah as the asians call him of visitting india and tibet, their are things that are similar to buddhist teachings in the bible, and i dont no if these cultures had contact at the time unless jesus really did visit, he had death threats in india for teaching about god to the poor which the hindus thought was wrong and then he left, i believe he went to egypt as well and got wisdom their too, a man from morocco who made pilgramages on foot to india was told he was the greatest traveller ever, and on his death bed he proclaimed no it was the prophet issah, a lot of jesus' life gets obscured, like when he ses i am the path to god, originally it was i amm a path to god, but the vatican wanted more converters and made him the only path, and originally in the biible it was reincarnation after death, this was changed too heaven rite after death to bring in more conversions.

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shiiiiit, I am just smh at some of the immaturity on here before with all the chink callings. This shit is cool!!!! :D

good build

Anybody ever read up on the notion that Jesus could have just been a hallucinogenic mushroom? Its interesting and has some weight to it.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

Anybody ever read up on the notion that Jesus could have just been a hallucinogenic mushroom? Its interesting and has some weight to it.

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is there such thing as a child complex because i think jesus mightve had that.

but is that a well known complex or not.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

Anybody ever read up on the notion that Jesus could have just been a hallucinogenic mushroom? Its interesting and has some weight to it.

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You talking about Allegros work Timbs? I'm actually reading this at the moment which is like an extension of Allegros work:

Astroltheology and Shamanism - Jan Irvin
http://www.amazon.com/Astrotheology-...ords=jan+irvin

and watching this :
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pharmacrat...e+pharmacratic

The doco can be found on youtube i believe.

It's definitely good stuff to check out.

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Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon

You talking about Allegros work Timbs? I'm actually reading this at the moment which is like an extension of Allegros work:

Astroltheology and Shamanism - Jan Irvin
http://www.amazon.com/Astrotheology-...ords=jan+irvin

and watching this :
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pharmacrat...e+pharmacratic

The doco can be found on youtube i believe.

It's definitely good stuff to check out.

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Yes indeed! Im talking about Allegro's work

Noble Drew Ali

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Originally Posted by mastapowerful

i read a really great book a few years ago called "jesus in bad company", it looked at the man from 3 different viewpoints. Was jesus truly the messiah, son of god? Was he just a revolutionary trying to overthrow the romans, or was he just a paranoid delusional who hung out with whores and thieves. I personally think that he was a great teacher whether he was real or made up, black or white or olive skinned. Good guy, great example of righteousness.

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bam!

Jesus is messianic prophecy fulfilled. Jesus is the son of God & man. He is the way, the truth and the life. Bless
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Originally Posted by Veritas Lux

Jesus is messianic prophecy fulfilled. Jesus is the son of God & man. He is the way, the truth and the life. Bless
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Amen ! http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/

That there are many realms and jesuses ghost gets to go wherever he wants

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Originally Posted by project trillogic

That there are many realms and jesuses ghost gets to go wherever he wants

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I think that its wonderful that people hold onto an idea of a highly righteous man with pure love in his heart.
And that this man ascended to a state of being God and then being able to have the power to turn into an unseeable ghost that makes people look like they're having seizures in church on sunday mornings. Making those people shake like that is very good work. He died for our sins long ago and he still here inspiring people to shake the devil out of themselves at church for a small fee. This is wonderful.