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that sounds very nice
islam wont be dominating anything until they start to modernize, and a lot of islamic nations dont seem to want to do that.
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Originally Posted by whitey
who is this they ?
do you really feel that this white christian dominated america doesn't practice and promote primitive culture/behavior ?
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Originally Posted by whitey
how many of them did you ask ?
So much misguided hate and contempt.
Islam aint as bad as many of you make it out to be.
During the Islamic golden age vast contirbuitons improvements where made to humanity in the areas of science, medicine and society that still stand today.
Islam is a peaceful religion, fanatics fuck up everything.
just like fat american televison dinner extremists give a bad view of the states.
they=muslim nations. turkey is an example of one who is trying. most of the middle east are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
we promote technology and free rights. go to iran and talk some major head about the supreme leader of iran and see whats good.
i asked none, i see.
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Originally Posted by whitey
and what do they promote ?
suppression of free speech. subjugation of woman. among other things.
Thats not Islam, just the dictators and tyrants that rule the Arab world.
its islam to them.
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Originally Posted by NickyTooch
the people behind the religion in current times is the reason why people despise the religion, im not talkin specifically about islam but everything, judaism, hinduism, christianity, etc.
funnily enough a majority of the leaders in the Islamic world jus happen to be ivy league or Oxbridge educated. they all come from the elite ruling class backgrounds. these ppl do not care for the development of their nations, as long as they are rich and have power they will do anything to keep that, if that means keeping the majority of the population uneducated and teaching them a fabricated version of Islam to keep them under control, they will do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
Also what some wont understand is that there are loads of sects in Islam which teaches something else, it really isnt jus a Sunni and Shi'a thing. you have different sects which will give you their view on Islam. for example you can have a Wahhabi Sunni or a Hanafi Sunni. Then you have different Islamic schools which teach something else. One muslim can think something else while another something totally different, because they are taught differently. Its clearer to if you have lived in a muslim society, but if you aint and are an ignorant fool you will see all muslims as two headed evil monsters.
The Islamic world will never dominate from a political perspective, yes true soon Islam will be the most dominant religion. but as a political force and world power the days of the caliphates and the ottomans are long long gone.
Exactly Han.
To be honest Islams character and general principles are getting assassinated by the elite who know its potential and dont want it to grow. They are tying to distort islam and make everyone hate it, but it will never happen.
Of course theres going to be the ignorant CNN watching rednecks who will stick by their mangled view of the islamic faith, but at the end of the day who gives a fuck about them? or indeed likes them?
What it boils down to is a faith, a movement that conflicts with the interests of the Rockerfeller, Bildergerger, Rothschilds and the rest of the elite scumbags, they will try any tactic to exstinguish islam.
People don't know what Islam is. Many Muslims neither.
Progressive thinking, which I am sorry to say TSA and Zooroka lack in, is needed to see where or what Islam really is. Switch off the Arab lady on tele tearing her hair out screaming Allah Hu Akbar. Stop "reading" selected verses from the Quran derived from the Index, and actually THINK.
Separate Culture, Politics, Religion, Customs, Eras, Stereotypes etc and then put the puzzle back together.
You will see some shit. (truthful observations from the TSAROOKIAN School of Thought and the guys who back the commonly viewed Islam from today)
Good and bad things. But be progressive and don't be angry.
Anger = lol
Rockefeller did alot for the community in Cleveland, if you don't want people being ignorant and judging Islam, than dont do the same thing yourself.
Now Rockefellers descendents, they did what they did....
Its kind of like Islam in a way, and its relatable to everything in life.
One man's works, as brilliant as they are, carried on, will eventually be perverted and distorted.
Are you trying to defend the Rockerfeller empire?
are you trying to soil the rockefeller empire?Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
Jesus Price.
*Steps out of KTL
would you prefer tabloids ?Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
rumors,lies, slander to spread,
that can lead to someones death or imprisonment ?
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Peace to SID and Prince Rai.
So don't let that be Islam 'to' you.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
Excellent post.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
With peace.
here's my thing
OBVIOUSLY the teaches of islam aren't 'evil'
OBVIOUSLY the counter productive ignorance violence and supression in the islamic world aren't done on purpose by islam
but islam is STILL the direct cause. Though it didn't intend to build such societies, these are the negative results of the intense idealism of the religion.
Everyone believes they're doing good for humanity. everyone. the worst and best ppl you know, hitler all of them, believe they're doing humanity good. No matter what they do there's always backlash thats most of the time out of their control or knowledge and their perspective based idea of good isn't good for everyone.
therefore the most idealistic something is the most dangerous and islam noble or evil is still way more idealistic then any of the 3 major religions and this is the problem.
Islam wasn't TRYING to oppress women, but a religion that tells ppl women do this this way, men do this is way over and over and over for every single aspect of life including washing you genitals is going to do 2 things
1. emphasis the fact that there is a major difference between the genders
2. trigger then natural human instinct to think "if these 2 things are different, which one is superior".
and from there women become dog shit cause through out the islamic world men are flat out superior to women and this is emphasized more so then in other societies to a dangerous extent.
this will keep women poor, abused, undereducated, overtly punished and made to feel inferior from birth.
this is 1 example of what i mean. Islam isn't TRYING to be 'bad' but the result of its overt idealism and inflexibility, plus arabs, spells disaster.
One of the major ideologies of the Qur'an however is the idea of spreading the faith by military conquests. The Bible also has elements of this, but not as much.
Whearas the Judiasm faith they both sprouted from talked about exclusivity and had no concern with spreading the word.
Before the way of Islam was shown in the middle east to the so called arab, women had it worst - daughters were buried as babies - the pagan arab culture has infiltrated true Islam - Islam is light given to the people - the people intake that light and it becomes fragmented and mistaken -
hmmm.......i dont kno about that one.
heres the thing cause i hear this excuse too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
if its from an all knowing god, when did he use islam to give women improved rights IN COMPARISON to those times? did he not know in 2009 women would be allow to dress as they wish? i dont buy into the 'you have to consider the time it was written' argument cause its supposedly from god
and the very nature of the religion makes it totally inflexible to change, so your point even shows how ignit the shit is.
good post tissaQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
But ultimatly the source and the teachings of islam are wicked and come from the enemy of mankinds soul also known as the devil...You can see that clearly from the way fundementalist muslims practice islam.
Praise be to God always !!!!!!
peace be with you !
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You know what tsa...I have noticed that outta all the religions christianity seem to be the only one able to stay relevant throughout the ages..and what I mean by that is, with christainity you don`t have to live like your in the 1st century b.c to make it still relevant..the bible is still fresh today as it was 2000years ago and it`s teachings still ring clear today..where as in the other religions they all seem to have a need to take it back to the old days thousand of years ago..to somehow make their religion relevant in todays modern world.
^ yet you have to believe in a 2000 year old make believe man who was crucified to save the whole world (unless you don't believe in him) or burn for all eternity in a make believe place called hell?!?!
Yeah...real relevant.
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Originally Posted by prof zooruka
you dont even/ have never even studied any religion but your own, so you wouldn't know either way
and like mr face said
praying to a god in the sky, and waiting for all your spiritual rewards to come after you DIE sounds pretty "1st century" to me
and christianity DOES have to make their religion relevant in today's world...ie christmas and all the other materialistic (EMOTIONAL) "holidays" in order to keep people (emotionally) attached to a religion that takes them nowhere
Islam means peace in arabic islam is a very beautiful way of life but you have spiritual wickedness in high places distorting the image islam is universal but people get islam mixed up with arab culture all muslims aren't arabs for example alex hailey made the movie roots about slavery but what a lot of people didn't catch is that all of those slaves were muslim kunta kente's father held him to the sky as an infant and asked ALLAH for a name the first person to ever call the muslim prayer was a black ethiopian slave named Balile ..and the prophet muhammad had said that he could here Baliles footsteps enter through the gates of heaven before his own ...islam saves people it makes them fighters for freedom justice and equality its very powerful because its not a religion. But as with anything pure people come to turn GoDZ work into somthing Else christianity on the other hand iz a religion and its the most correupt religion known on the planet it had to get its represntitive after he died because jesus wasn't about what christianity iz
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Danish police shoot intruder at cartoonist's home
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...08485471-1.jpg Kurt Westergaard has had a price on his head since 2006
Danish police have shot and wounded a man at the home of Kurt Westergaard, whose cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad sparked an international row.
Mr Westergaard was at home in the western town of Aarhus when a man broke in. He pressed a panic button, then police entered and shot the man.
Danish officials said the intruder was a 28-year-old Somali linked to the radical Islamist al-Shabab militia.
The cartoon, printed in 2005, prompted violent protests the following year.
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By Malcolm Brabant, BBC News
This attack will force the Danish secret service Pet to review whether their protection is adequate.
Mr Westergaard's house was supposed to have been turned into a fortress. The windows were supposed to be blast proof, and yet a determined individual came within a whisker of killing a man regarded by Muslims as a pariah, but by his supporters, as one of the bravest defenders of free expression.
One of 12 cartoons published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten, it depicted the Prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban.
In 2006 the paper apologised for the cartoons, but other European media reprinted them.
Danish embassies were then attacked by Muslims around the world and dozens killed in riots.
Mr Westergaard went into hiding amid threats to his life, but emerged last year saying he wanted to live as normal a life as possible.
His house has been heavily fortified and is under close police protection.
'Shocked'
Police said the man had entered Mr Westergaard's house armed with a knife and had shouted in broken English that he wanted to kill him.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...05753_-7-1.jpg The cartoons prompted anti-Danish outrage across the Muslim world
He said he had grabbed his five-year-old granddaughter and run to a specially designed panic room where he raised the alarm.
Mr Westergaard told Jyllands Posten he was shocked that his granddaughter had witnessed the attack.
He has now been taken to a safe location, but said defiantly that he would be back, the newspaper reported.
Jakob Scharf, who heads the Danish intelligence service Pet, said the attack was "terror related" and that the suspected assailant has close contacts to Somalia's al-Shabab group.
He had been under surveillance for activities unrelated to Mr Westergaard, Mr Scharf said.
Police said he was shot in the knee and the shoulder after threatening officers who tried to arrest him. Preben Nielsen of Aarhus police, said the man was seriously hurt but his life was not in danger.
The BBC's Malcolm Brabant, who interviewed Mr Westergaard when he emerged from hiding, says the incident will raise questions about security measures put in place by the Danish secret service to protect the artist.
Islamic militants have placed a $1m price on Mr Westergaard's head.
Although he is one of 12 cartoonists whose drawings of the Prophet were published in Jyllands-Posten, he has the highest profile, our correspondent says.
yeah that was 3 years ago when i was a 21yr old alcoholicQuote:
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though i still own ecko clothes, wooden wu-tang medallions and the women still love me :beer:
lost that hat though
The positives of islam !!!!!!!!!!
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Peace be with you !
No disrepect to you ..but I get tired of hearing people say that they are fighting for our freedom that's not true the reality is america isn't at war because we are not fighting on usa soil america wages war that's why you got sent. To where you were as far. As terorist. Are concerned. The goverment are the real terrorist those dudes bomb the building for 911 its so obviouse like who sits around and decides I'm going to bomb the towers on 911 cause that means emergency lol all litral smoke and mirrorsQuote:
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al aqaeda
Your funny as hell ...let explain why the white image of jesus is false and you have it up as if its the thing to do ...and as far as christianity is concerned not only was it used as a tool in slavery to break the black muslims down in 1555 in james town virginia it was also used as racist mechanism to make the blacks and indians feel inferior by given them a god that dosent look like them so while you promote thaqt picture you promote hatred and racism. With that symbol or picture of injustice and white surprmaceyQuote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
watching prof in this thread just proves to me that no amount of jesus-loving will ever make you a mature, critical-thinking, righteous individual
I agree
Zoo is a white supremist he shows his symbol of. Racisim in his signature play on doing some missionary work zoo lol maybe you can help your fellow bredren call people savages give them some bibles and then take there land that's what you do right
You christians sure did help the indians out there so over populated in america