Unless that's a metaphor that's not a brilliant quote. If he's saying I'll martyr if others complete my work fine, but to me that sounds like he's suggesting that war should never end and that violence is the answer.
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Unless that's a metaphor that's not a brilliant quote. If he's saying I'll martyr if others complete my work fine, but to me that sounds like he's suggesting that war should never end and that violence is the answer.
So, stripping away your fluff and condescension, you're saying that you think Che was cool because he was a rebel.
It doesn't matter that not only were his motivations suspect at best, but that his entire fight and ultimately the results were detrimental to everyone with which they were associated?
I have not only studied the man from both sides, but my family knew him and Castro.
They offered to make my grandfather, an already wealthy man, even wealthier if he would rat out anybody who said, or might be thinking of saying, anything negative of "the revolution".
I have family that lived in Cuba before and during Castro's ascension to power, and I have family that lives there now.
They still feel the pain that Che caused directly.
But you read a book once and selectively interpreted it to back up your preconceived notions, so I guess you're an expert.
I guess I might as well research Christopher Columbus, get both sides of the story, and if he has any heroic qualities that can be interpreted universally I'll start printing off the t-shirts.
You will all get one free at the upcoming KTL conference being held at the Marriott.
sorry....you basically removed the psychological bandaid
you just admitted you love expoitation
you love young women prostituting themselves
you love drug addiction
you love homosexual dens
theres really not much more to say
pertaining your exploitation loving ass
and its all the more reason why to support
Che....because he came to murder folks
like you who love exploitation
danu fubu??? you still here?
you wanna be one of wutangcorps biggest assholes
biggest white supremists
you get constantly served up in here and for some
reason come back for more
you have NO moral grounds to stand on
nobody listens to you
and really....if your fucking punk ass family
acts like YOU DO....then eye can understand
why Che and Fidel caused them so much problems
you one of the biggest devils at wutang corp
and NOW you wanna be taken seriously?????
its way past your bedtime bitch
put on your pajamas with the footsies and
get your ass in bed
om sorry dude
your behavior is pretty fuckin ugly
you drop absolutely ZERO Knowledge
your parents did a fucking shitty ass job
raising you OBVIOUSLY
yes.....Che came to murder your type
long live EL FUSOR ERNESTO CHE GUEVARA!!!!!!
and thanks to the starter of this thread
it really gave da eye a chance to let off some steam
so what have we learned today???
a)despite what certain people in this thread
wanted to propagate....Che is defineatly
most hated by middle class and rich people
b)Che is hated by people who love exploitation
c)people will go to a ultra right wing website
and cut and paste quotes that are taken
completely out of context in a feeble vein
attempt to throw dirt on the man
d)you can't throw dirt on Che Guevara
his record stands for itself
everyone and they momma loved che
e)dany Fubu's parents did a horrible
parenting job which means his gusano
grandparents did a shitty parenting job
Since you're talking about a man who's praised by most of the same class that can't stand Che, know yourself out. Columbus' image is always presented as squeaky clean. So is George Washington's and so is The Government that they helped establish. On the other hand, you have people that believe they're part of a grand conspiracy to take over the world. Others who believe they and everyone like them has our best interest at heart. One takes things at face value, the other digs for information.
I dig for information. And again, since neither one of you have done extensive research, and in one case, chooses to take what someone else tells them and run with it, not finding out the information for himself, from perhaps another source other than his own, you're all bringing a one-sided arguement to the table.
Why do I respect Che? Because he's an example of courage and unwavering strength. Talk all the shit you want about him, because all you're really doing is helping his popularity. You're not really important until someone doesn't like you.
Like it or not, there are Guerrilla factions all over the world that still wave flags with his face on it, because he inspired people all around the world who want justice and freedom from oppressive governments. Just like Malcolm, Guy Fawkes, William Wallace and others.
Any news articles or something to prove any of these atrocities that were supposedly committed? Oh, and please remember, in war, people die. I bet you if Che was American and The Batistas were Iraqis, all of you would shut the fuck up as far as that, "war criminal" shit is concerned. :W
"I bet you if Che was American and The Batistas were Iraqis, all of you would shut the fuck up as far as that, "war criminal" shit is concerned"
yup
because the USA will turn countries
into "Las Vegas" so they can get
that exploitation they love so much!!!!
Replace the word Che for Hitler and re-read your post. Those are bizarre reasons to idolise a man.
Also, the ends don't justify the means. He was a rebel, thats good for him, but as far as i can see he's done enough bad shit for me not to respect/look up to him, as a man., ever.
this is comming from someone who
cuts and pastes from ULTRA right wing websites
of quotes completely out of context
the important thing is we proved
with help from the other ultra right wing posters
in this thread is that
CHe is hated by rich and middle class whites
who love exploitation
and yet still....Franchize and others
haven't given ONE un-refutable example of
how Che was bad
he's bad to you because he's come to destroy
your fake shit
hitler=a PUPPET of the USA and Britan who killed millions
of innocent women and children and men
Che=the one who battled the PUPPETEER and only killed
those who deserved to die(torturers, rapists, killers)
take that shit back to the stormfront
Che battled the puppeteer
Hitler obeyed the puppeteers every fuckin command
the puppeteer is the global system of white supremacy
the 10 percent
Che wrote in a letter to his family
when he was in the Sierra Maestra
killing Dany Fubu's forefathers
"God is an Argentine"
Che didn't believe in no spooky mystery God either
PEACE
Do you know why theyve been posted on racist forums? BECAUSE HE SAID RACIST SHIT. AND THEY LIKE PEOPLE WHO SAY RACIST SHIT.
It seems to bother you more that theyve been posted on racist forums rather than the fact they were posted by Che himself, in his own books.
These are his own words. Who cares where else theyve been posted. It's beside the point. Thats what happens when you write racist shit.
Dude, wtf, are you living under a rock? Che is the white middle class rebelling teen culture hero. They love him. Although i'm pretty sure most of them dont know that he held racist beliefs.
Whats the problem with them? If a woman wants me to pay her for sex let her make that deal. I'm supposed to support a wife as a companion, why not a prostitute. A mistress falls in between as does a courtesan. Thats a strange law. Its protecting marriage and nothing else.
I don't think drugs are bad dude. They're dangerous if used wrong but not bad. Abuse is bad. Use is not. This is a rap forum. Everyone here me including smokes weed on the regular and probably has done coke before and other shit.
What did gays do to anyone? Its a natural thing. Haven't you ever seen animals? They have homosexual sex. Not uncommon. Sex feels good and organisms like feeling good.
Che exploited the poverty of the Cuban People to launch an unethical regime out of an unethical regime by lying that he was good.
No the first dauphin died of illness in 1788, and the other one's death remains a mistery, even though it is supected he died of illness as well in prison.
And the difference with England is that the privileged people agreed to change the system, whereas in France they refused any kind of change, which led to the Revolution. Its a difference of mentality, like when the British gave India independance to be able to keep an influence, while the French refused Indochine and Algery's indepedance and chose war.
But I'm glad the Revolution happenned, cause it also brought dechristianization.
^^^Note how the devil lies, cowers, hisses and insults when confronted with divine truth.
LOL. I must have really hurt your feelings back in the day.
But again, this thread isn't about you or your feminine tendencies or your life of failure and jealousy.
It is about the fact that Che was a devil, and you have a mouth full of devil dick.
You can spread all of the lies you want, and put your hurt feelings on display, but it doesn't change the truth.
PM me for counsling. I will be your BIg Brother.
I like how you assume that you are the only one who has done research, and then go on to discount the multitude of firsthand sources that I have spoken to IN ADDITION to looking at both sides of the story.
It seems that you are more interested in trying to prove yourself than discuss facts.
AGAIN, Che made the lives of most everyone he affected, ESPECIALLY those who's rights he claimed to be championing, WORSE.
I'm glad he's inspired you, and if people want to use Che as an inspiration to promote positive change, then great. But that certainly isn't what he accomplished.
Big Brother is watching you.
http://www.j2fi.net/wp-content/uploa...other_1984.jpg
Good. I feel safe and protected.
"Do you know why theyve been posted on racist forums? BECAUSE HE SAID RACIST SHIT. AND THEY LIKE PEOPLE WHO SAY RACIST SHIT."
you know eye was gonna bring this up
and here you go bring it up yourself
this shit you originally posted here to start this thread
when eye was looking for these quotes
guess what?
eye found them in the EXACT same order you posted them
at mostly ULTRA RIGHT WING websites....
and even at stormfront
which basically means....you(franchize)
get your fuckin news from ultra right wingers
and nazi's....lol
simple motherfuckin mathmatics!!!!!!!
"It seems to bother you more that theyve been posted on racist forums rather than the fact they were posted by Che himself, in his own books."
we will get to that in a second
and let me tell you son....passive aggressive behavior
is feminine and bitch like......
yes there are people who work for this
Puppeteer eye speak of who still to this
day try to dig up all the dirt they can
on the great ones
but that doesn't excuse the fact
that you get your news from
right wingers and inbred skinheads
the quotes came in the exact same order
you posted them....lol
why don't you just go to bohemian grove
and suck sum dicks cuz what you are
doing here in no different
"These are his own words. Who cares where else theyve been posted. It's beside the point. Thats what happens when you write racist shit."
lets revisit
the most obviously suspect quote iz the one
about the COngo-lese
if you ever read a book or studyed the subject
above you would know that some of the higher
ranking COngolese soldiers Che was working
with was more concerned with getting
pussy and and getting drunk as well as lower
ranking ones
on their first ambush many of the COngolese
soldiers threw down their weapons and just
ran
he was basically in this quote giving you a run
down of the situation he faced there
so......1/4th of your quotes doesn't
really prove your theory.....franch fries
and the fact that Che was up in sum
jungle getting eaten up by bugs
with a tiny untrained undisicplined army
having bad fuckin asthma attacks
away from his wife and children
battling the same white mercenaries
who Malcolm da X condemned for
airplane bombing of
congolese....men.....women...and children
proves you and your buddy's wrong
two of your quotes you listed
was from around 1950, 51 and 52
one of them you left out the whole
quote....well u didn't....your
news source did....
"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: The Portugese.... the black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead."
ummmm.... little rough around the edges
but that quote is from early 50's
a maricon such as yourself could problably
take a bunch of pre-1963 Malcolm X
quotes and try to butcher him as well
but om not buyin it
the first, very pro black part of the quote basically says...
the MAGNIFICIENT black race
who have remarkably kept their
race PURE
is being INVADED by different type of slave.....
a portugese Slave!!!!!
portugal is in where......EUROPE...
your rope is your psychological booh booh's
franch fries
then he goes on to describe
this "SLAVE INVADER" the portugese european
as a worker and saver of money
and the black man as chasing
frivolity and drink
almost sounds like ELijah Muhammad
this was CHe's observation of
the Carribean COast of SOuth
America in the early 50's before
he was "CHe"
and to add on......
when you forsake someone like
Castro and CHavez for a USA puppet dictator
your gonna have oppressed black
people who can't get ahead
while european "invader slaves"
will come and have way more
opportunity due to having
the mighty YOU ROPE connection
moving on....
the 3rd quote.....Mexicans are a band
of illiterate indians
from the early 1950's
just another observation
DOn Juan Matus said the same thing
Che also would later on in life
call Mexico a dollar democracy
thats what happens when you
a USA puppet....
a new las vegas for fags to buttfuck each
other at
you got
illiterate poor people
when FIdel and CHe and em was trying
to erase illiteracy in CUba
does that make him racist?
no....they identifying the problem
now....the 4th quote.....eye can't
find the interview
it was right after Che entered Havana
in 1959
and knowing how Che was trying
to eradicate Racism he was
problably offended by the question
it would be like asking him
what are you going to do for whites
Che was all about Equality
he didn't want to divide people up by
race
in fact when he filled out
his first Cuban nationality card
Che left the race section
blank
and he said it was because
he wanted a unified CUba
with equality in race relations
"Dude, wtf, are you living under a rock? Che is the white middle class rebelling teen culture hero. They love him. Although i'm pretty sure most of them dont know that he held racist beliefs."
dude wtf get the gerbils out your ass
you got no proof
but in this retarded ass thread we have all
the proof we need
the living classroom
this thread is a science experiment
one of the people who agreed with you
self describes himself as a brooks
brothers wearing caucasian surburban thug!!!????!!!!
a guy who admits
he wants 3rd world
countries to be turned
into
Las Vegas
and then you got Danu Fubu
no explanation needed
this thread speaks for it self you fuckin Maricon
about what DEMOGRAPHIC hates che
lol
in closing
Bone Thugs is ok
eye call them whiteboy rap
because
whiteboys in particular love them
some bonethugs
but eye do find it odd that Myka Nyne
ghost wrote for NWA for years
and all off a sudden this
group comes out produced
by Easy E that sounds a
whole lot like one of the many styles
of the freestyle fellowship.......cruuuuuu!!!
yeah Dead Prez one of the few groups remaining
that throws the Cracker bomb around
in they lyrics.....got a picture of
Che in the video where they shoot
the cop.....
thank u come again
Words from an ACTUALY Cuban, from the time
source http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg2Quote:
I feel that I have to intervene here.
I was six years old in 1959 living in a small town in what was then the Pinar de Rio providence of Cuba. Today that town is in Habana Campo. Of course at that age I did not have an understanding of the chaos and events going on around me. Violence had not really touched the western Providences the way they had affected the eastern Providences from where the barbudos had marched down from the Sierra Maestra. I remember my father's euphoric enthusiasm and hope for Cuba's future when Batista fled. I remember him wearing his red and black armband with the number 26 on it. I remember also my mothers sarcasm at the new leader of Cuba and her criticism of my father for being a Castro supporter. That euphoric enthusiasm slowly turned to disappointment as the summary executions became a regular event in Cuba mainly revealed through rumors and unoffial then official reports. First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power. That was the final event that turned my father against the new Castro government. My mother could not help that I told you so. I remember my uncles and grandfather being picked up and detained for no reason other than suspicion for being counter-revolutionaries, which they weren't. They were opposed to the new regime, but that was grounds for suspicion. I remember the vigils of my mother, my aunts and grandmother at the notorious Guanajay prison trying to get word on their men, brothers, husbands and sons. Later one of those uncles would do 2 tours in the Cuban adventure in Angola. A total of 4 years in the African jungles. I remember in the early 60's right before the missile crises as my father was forced to dig huge trenches. I'm still not sure what they were for. I remember the blackouts in the middle of the night and how my house trembled. How my father and I peeked out the window and we saw large tread-ed vehicles with canopies covering something cylindrical as cargo. My sister and I were sent to Habana were it as safer. But were does Guevara come in? Guevara tied all of this together and I came to realize this later. My father took me one afternoon to the Malecon. The iconic walk along the shores of Habana Harbour. On the other side of the harbour is the famous Morro Castle with it's iconic lighthouse built during colonial times. Adjacent to it was La Cabana, an old Spanish presidio or prison. I remember my father asking me to be quiet and to let him listen as we stood there on the Malecon. I listened too. I could hear a distant cracking sound. I knew he heard too. I asked what the cracking sound was, I didn't get an answer. Later when I was older I realized that the cracking sound was the firing squad ending men's lives. Some of them as young as 18 years old. Today an 18 year old to me is more a child than a man. Guevara was the head of the revolutionary tribunals that was handing down these death sentences. He was a one man judge and jury and appeals panel all wrapped into one. He had the final word on these men's lives. He personally sentenced over 800 men to their deaths. The overwhelming majority, if not all, summarily executed on political grounds. Not for criminal offenses. Guevara was a mass murderer. A violator of the most basic human right, the right to life. For whom he was, I could not imagine a more fitting end for him in the mountains of Bolivia. He deserved his end, in some ways it was poetic justice. Some people are such a plague on humanity that it is better that they don't exist. Guevara was one of those people. He died like the animal that he was.
As for the admiration I see many have for Guevara I like to subscribe to Jose Marti philosophy on this, "sin patria pero sin amo".
Your a victim of the power of image.
I'll tell you again, as your so obsessed by it
His qoutes are posted on racist sites, because he was a racist. Why are you so heated about the fact?
these same qoutes are posted all over the web, I copy and pasted mine from Yahoo answers.
http://bastarduniverse.blogspot.com/...-and-anti.html
black pride website
http://boards.brownpride.com/showthr...ist-54670.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg1
Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world.
I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him.
Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)
eye notice you didn't address any
of the inconsistencies in those
quotes you dropped
well the quotes your right wing
news sources dropped
silence on that from Mr. Franchfries....ok
but thats no big suprise...this goose
is almost cooked!!!!
"First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power."
cee franchfries.....cee this is why eye loves the universe
you start a thread that states that Che is loved
mainly by middle class white youth
yet the only person who agree's with you
is a person who says he's a thugged
out hardcore brooks brothers wearing
caucasian suburbanite....lol
and no....dany fubu isn't a person..he's a animal
theres unceen forces making you look like
a fuckin tool
Camilo died in a plane crash true.......but
the person who wrote this little bullshit
expose is obviously biased and telling
lies from the get go.....when Camillo
dissappeared Che personally searched
for days and days.....anyone who says
Fidel had something to do with
Camillo's murder is SUSPECT
Since the USA had committed
over 2000 acts of terrorism against
Cuba from 1959-1963 it would be
safe to say Camillo was killed by the CIA
how many Cubans died from USA
terrorism?
the true history is that Fidel needed
Che and Camillo to keep things from
getting corrupt...not the other way
around as you devils claim
"That was the final event that turned my father against the new Castro government. My mother could not help that I told you so."
huh?????? Camillo getting murdered by the CIA
was the last straw against Castro.....huh?????
"I remember my uncles and grandfather being picked up and detained for no reason other than suspicion for being counter-revolutionaries, which they weren't. They were opposed to the new regime, but that was grounds for suspicion."
welll.....the gusano writer of this bullshit expose
is claiming Fidel killed Camillo????
damn eye understand why Castro detained these people
good work Castro!!!!!! lock up those liars
"I remember the vigils of my mother, my aunts and grandmother at the notorious Guanajay prison trying to get word on their men, brothers, husbands and sons."
hey...you wanna spread lies and shit
making sum bullshit story about
how Fidel killed Camillo......
hey you deserve to get locked up
especially when your country is at
war against the great imperialist beast
the USA
"Later one of those uncles would do 2 tours in the Cuban adventure in Angola. A total of 4 years in the African jungles."
okay?
"I remember in the early 60's right before the missile crises as my father was forced to dig huge trenches. I'm still not sure what they were for."
LOL.....not sure what they are for????
this person is mad suspect...
oh eye fuckin wonder what a huge trench is
used for in war.....are you fuckin retarded??????
nobody ever dug a trench for war.....
om being sarchastic
Che guevara worked hard 7 days a week
doing all types of hard labor
including digging trenches
"I remember the blackouts in the middle of the night and how my house trembled."
yes USA was waging covert war against Cuba
"How my father and I peeked out the window and we saw large tread-ed vehicles with canopies covering something cylindrical as cargo. My sister and I were sent to Habana were it as safer."
oh my goodness!!!!!!
"But were does Guevara come in? Guevara tied all of this together and I came to realize this later. My father took me one afternoon to the Malecon. The iconic walk along the shores of Habana Harbour. On the other side of the harbour is the famous Morro Castle with it's iconic lighthouse built during colonial times. Adjacent to it was La Cabana, an old Spanish presidio or prison. I remember my father asking me to be quiet and to let him listen as we stood there on the Malecon. I listened too. I could hear a distant cracking sound. I knew he heard too. I asked what the cracking sound was, I didn't get an answer. Later when I was older I realized that the cracking sound was the firing squad ending men's lives. Some of them as young as 18 years old. Today an 18 year old to me is more a child than a man."
yup....Che killled a whole bunch of devils
good for him
if he didn't the Cuban people would have
hung these people in the streets
mobb violence
more reason for the USA to get support
for a invasion
"Guevara was the head of the revolutionary tribunals that was handing down these death sentences. He was a one man judge and jury and appeals panel all wrapped into one. He had the final word on these men's lives. He personally sentenced over 800 men to their deaths. The overwhelming majority, if not all, summarily executed on political grounds. Not for criminal offenses. Guevara was a mass murderer. A violator of the most basic human right, the right to life. For whom he was, I could not imagine a more fitting end for him in the mountains of Bolivia. He deserved his end, in some ways it was poetic justice. Some people are such a plague on humanity that it is better that they don't exist. Guevara was one of those people. He died like the animal that he was. "
yes eye can cee why this writer of this
bullshit expose hates che
he wasn't mass murderer....if he was
the entire Island of Cuba wouldn't have
loved him so
"Your a victim of the power of image."
you are a victim of the white mans
dick in your ass
"I'll tell you again, as your so obsessed by it"
huh?
"His qoutes are posted on racist sites, because he was a racist. Why are you so heated about the fact?"
nooooo......YOU are posting shit that comes straight
from right wingers and racists.....don't try
and confuse shit
"these same qoutes are posted all over the web, I copy and pasted mine from Yahoo answers."
om sure you did you no book readin motherfucker
"Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world."
you love exploitation....shut da fuck up
your mask is off Mr. Thugged out Caucasian
"I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him."
you wouldn't find a Che picture in
a uncle tom ass bone thugs video
you would find them with a 40 ounce
singing in a style similar to freestyle
fellowship
"Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)"
you are a Right Winger at Wu Tang website
somethings not adding up here
"First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power."
consolidated power?
cee the universe is soooo magical
how you just making yourself look so
idiotic
Fidel was el Comandante from the go get
when Che, Camillo, Fidel and em hopped on
da Granma in Fifty Six.....Fidel was the H-N-I-C
Che was a medic
Camillo joined up with Fidel
do you know whut HNIC means?
pshhhhhhhh......Consolidated power?
huh?
what a bunch of mischief makers
like eye said all ruthlessness aside
who's gonna protect Tupac's aunt?
will Las Vegas protect Tupac's aunt
eternal praises is due to the black GOd Allah
and Jah Rastafari!!!!!
and thank you for
allowing me to smite some of thee with
da mighty e-sword
Lol Wu Tang is all about capitalistic exploitation of the workers. They're making music about killing shit and making money to sell it to you to make money. Get your head right. Capitalism is the only thing that's real bro.
Will you at least tell me about who you are? I've told you about myself. I'm a white middle class American teen living in New Hampshire. I have a centrist conservative belief system which doesn't glorify communists, liars, or killers. I've discussed this shit with other posters, you can't sway me because I'm right.
Who are you? Some young black guy in the inner city using a public library because he's poor to get out the message? I doubt it. Some young asian kid in the suburbs talking big about communism because even though your parents fled communism to give you the benefits of capitalism and a land of opportunity you want to be a rebel? Or a white guy in the same position as me talking big about politics you don't understand because you did poorly in school, don't have any legitimate sexual relations to speak of, dress two social brackets below your income because you're "keeping it real", and hate your own country because you're a fuck who found out his parents were going to abort him but didn't have the heart to and have regretted it ever since.
Or are you some foreigner who worships american culture and hates our government because its in vogue even though they're all the same big piece of american apple pie?
Method Man: Get Him!
"Lol Wu Tang is all about capitalistic exploitation of the workers. They're making music about killing shit and making money to sell it to you to make money. Get your head right. Capitalism is the only thing that's real bro."
wu tang is for the children....how dare you
"Will you at least tell me about who you are? I've told you about myself. I'm a white middle class American teen living in New Hampshire. I have a centrist conservative belief system which doesn't glorify communists, liars, or killers. I've discussed this shit with other posters, you can't sway me because I'm right."
why you telling me your life story son?
"Who are you? Some young black guy in the inner city using a public library because he's poor to get out the message? I doubt it. Some young asian kid in the suburbs talking big about communism because even though your parents fled communism to give you the benefits of capitalism and a land of opportunity you want to be a rebel? Or a white guy in the same position as me talking big about politics you don't understand because you did poorly in school, don't have any legitimate sexual relations to speak of, dress two social brackets below your income because you're "keeping it real", and hate your own country because you're a fuck who found out his parents were going to abort him but didn't have the heart to and have regretted it ever since."
ummm...you should be asking the topic starter
all this
because his original claim was that da great
ernesto che was most loved by middle class and rich
whites
as he put it
and now your stupid ass for sum reason
made franchfries
looked even more WRONG
when you just revealed whut you
revealed....lol
and now..since know cee injected his
poison in YOUR psychic shell
now the poison is working its way
you feel it
and in a last minute attempt
before the goose is cooked like
goose in mad max
you get on sum dani fubu shit
"Or are you some foreigner who worships american culture and hates our government because its in vogue even though they're all the same big piece of american apple pie?"
listen here dipshit
the constitution says
if eye may paraphraze
to protect
north america
from enemies foriegn
and domestic
bohemian grove is calling you
HNIC Fidel on videotape said
Lee hArvey could never have done
that shooting job
with such a shitty old weapon
and since Fidel used a Sniper Rifle
from 56-59 eye would say
he knows what he talking about
Fidel is more of a Patriot
to USA citizens
then its own government is
Fidel killed Camillo
its 12 05 the next day noonish
and om still buzzing from
hearing that nonsense yesterday
and it 2thousand and mothafuckin 10
now a tiny little Island country doing battle
with the great atom bomb dropping beast
if Fidel let slanderers roam free
who da fuck would protect Assata?
“I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” – from the U.S. military officer oath
Not the Constitution, and not what you think it is. What it says is that the Military is legally obligated to follow the Constitution rather then any political body. It means that the Military not only has the authority to topple the government in the interest of the people if a threat to constitutional rule (such as a Dictator) but has an obligation to do so and in doing so return America to its Democracy.
Also what are you talking about, Oswald was a Marine Sniper, you don't get a much better shot, armed with a military grade Italian rifle with a scope. Trying to hit a slow moving car from a building overlooking the path of the car. I don't think it's that hard for that to work out, especially since he missed a bit. Castro may have been a sniper, but he was a Cuban Rebel sniper. Theres a world of difference between Oswald and Fidel.
As a side note, I would not want a Sniper in control of a government. You realize that Snipers are the most intimate killers in the military? Its not like a normal soldier when it's killed or be killed be it in a gunfight or a knife fight its life or death. But a Sniper is out of that danger and has the free choice to kill or not kill. The fact they can kill in that circumstance makes them dangerous men. They're executioners, not regular soldiers. I don't hate them for that, but they'd tend to be the "ends justifies the means" type of mindset as a result of their work. If you can pull the trigger like that to save your own men's lives you'll have no qualm in ending some "enemies" lives to protect your plans.
Get Him!
"Not the Constitution, and not what you think it is. What it says is that the Military is legally obligated to follow the Constitution rather then any political body. It means that the Military not only has the authority to topple the government in the interest of the people if a threat to constitutional rule (such as a Dictator) but has an obligation to do so and in doing so return America to its Democracy."
uhhuh
"Also what are you talking about, Oswald was a Marine Sniper, you don't get a much better shot, armed with a military grade Italian rifle with a scope. Trying to hit a slow moving car from a building overlooking the path of the car. I don't think it's that hard for that to work out, especially since he missed a bit. Castro may have been a sniper, but he was a Cuban Rebel sniper. Theres a world of difference between Oswald and Fidel."
yeah
also there was a tree with leaves in the way beetween
a shot from the 6th floor depository
and the motorcade
the first shot would be the best shot
manual action bolt
shitty weapon
and all the people on the grassy knowl was
running up to the picket fence
the opposite direction
of the texas book depository
also Lee Harvey was trained in Russian
in the Marines
what do you think that means?
what Marine gets trained in Russian?
from 61-63
why was Oswald ceen
hangingout in the heart of
the intelligence community
with the most rabid anti
castro cuban faggots you eva seen?
"As a side note, I would not want a Sniper in control of a government. You realize that Snipers are the most intimate killers in the military? Its not like a normal soldier when it's killed or be killed be it in a gunfight or a knife fight its life or death. But a Sniper is out of that danger and has the free choice to kill or not kill. The fact they can kill in that circumstance makes them dangerous men. They're executioners, not regular soldiers. I don't hate them for that, but they'd tend to be the "ends justifies the means" type of mindset as a result of their work. If you can pull the trigger like that to save your own men's lives you'll have no qualm in ending some "enemies" lives to protect your plann?
uh ...you love expoitation and oppression ....
eye know what you want
Have you ever fired a gun Knowcheese or are you basing your info off something or what?
Anyone qualified as a marksman (I shouldn't have said sniper that's wrong) can use a bolt action rifle (what do you think snipers use?) to hit a moving man through soft cover. If anything that was a very sloppy shooting. The car was moving at less then running speed because the secret service jog next to the car. With elevation, soft cover, a scope, slow moving target, and a rather short distance compared to the mile long shots that aren't unheard of, its not a hard shot for a marine marksman. The only impressive thing is his speed in firing several shots in short order and his ability to get down several floors of stairs quickly and be totally calm when someone checks on him moments seconds afterward.
He taught himself Russian because he was most likely a Russian Agent or would become one who later did live in Russia.
knowcheeze still hasn't told us who he is nor his income bracket or ethnic background
This is typical of the the average KTL shadow poster. The mask of anonymity is their only strategic advantage they have. At the end of the day, the person kicking up the most dust is usually some over privileged fggt who shops at whole foods, wears a $500 backpack bought with daddy's trust fund $ and holds demonstrations around their college campus while simultaneously whining about the struggle which they were somehow indirectly affected by through a 3rd cousin.
This is what they usually look like:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2637/...29e90ff7_o.jpg
yeah....the driver of the car
slows down.....lol
so's the mechanic behind
da grassy knowl could get his kill shot
when eye finish up my "the curse of che" series
its gonna talk about felix rodriguez
gusano number one
he's one of these select anti castro cubans
involved in WATERGATE
IRAN CONTRA
these select Anti castro cubans
was there
at dealey plaza too my dude
they was there when MLK got shot
this is the type of shithole
who hates castro
anyways.....the original thread poster has
been proven completely wrong
through field research everyone
here witnessed who really hates
che
brooks brothers wearing....etc
JFK is another topic
dayum robbie sinclair....are you the police
or something?????
if you are the police
then you can easily find
out this info you desire
eye guess if you find a good enough
hacker you could too
om here to completely shut down these
liars...which eye do.....om not here
to pr
provide material for your
homosexual fantasies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dSY...eature=related
I'm sorry I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am...
psssshhhhh
"income bracket or ethnic background"
thats the ultimate straw man tactic right there
strawman
in the battlefield but
the battle is over
eye stand Victorious once again
om not the one who started this thread
and made those ridiculous claims
you and franchfries and the rest of the anti Che
people can
sit around in your bra's and panties
sippin on hot cocoa
and talk about
each others
income bracket
and ethnic background
its just so funny how the universe
stepped in this thread and
had people on the same side of the
arguement causing their fellow
same side of the argument people
to prove them wrong