Did the Brits make the best music?

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Originally Posted by TSA

how much excellent, 'innovative', 'groundbreaking' music and musical styles do you think we are all completely oblivious to because it's either not sung in english, or was only well dsitributed in non-english speaking countries?



^^who ever said that nailed it.
we in the west tend to think shit doesn't exist until we do it and this is why we think where just blazing the path on innovation for greatness.

i can tell you know the biggest act in the world is P-Square, and there's numbers and stats to prove it, but you're going to look at me as a jackass cause they're not known in your country.

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I said that.
Because I'm brilliant.
"I see shit from all angles, God."

ahahahahhaahah! that niggas pandemic is a manstah bruh

oh and

*innovation and greatness

*I can tell you now

for posterity (the seeds)

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Originally Posted by Pandemic

Dude, you said:



This is not the expression of a personal opinion. This also shows the fallacy of your argument...British groups are more influential and innovative because they are more well known and popular in Britain than their American counterparts.

One thing I do take for granted is that the amount of condescension used by someone in a serious discussion, in lieu of a legitimate argument, is usually inversely proportional to their level of intelligence.

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I did not say that the reason they were innovative was because they were more popular, i said the Pistols and Clash led the punk explosion, thats it.

Why did they lead it? i don't know? why werent The Ramones the vanguards of punk i don't know? i guess people related to the pistols anti establishment dont give a fuck attitude more then the ramones leather jackets and cool logos.

Maybe The Sex Pistols engaged in numerous publicity stunts while the Ramones made music.

I would just like to confirm that Richard D. James aka Aphex Twin was actually born in Limerick in Ireland so that makes him Irish.

I agree with some points in this thread but im gonna stay out of it.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

Maybe The Sex Pistols engaged in numerous publicity stunts while the Ramones made music.

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Nah i don't think so, they echoed a genuine sentiment that was almost universally shared between the youth of that era.

The Sex Pistols were waiting to happen.....

Come now, the two aren't even comparable. The Ramones are so much better then the Sex Pistols. The Sex Pistols are obnoxious sounding pussies, the Ramones are actually talented.

The Ramones have simple riffs and rhythms and a good singer. The Sex Pistols have mildly more aggressive lyrics. That's it.

You're being anglocentric, you assume people know who the sex pistols are. I didn't hear of them until a couple years ago and I didn't care for it. The Ramones are to punk what Bob Marley is to Reggae. If you "like punk" you'll say you like the Ramones. Or you can be a blatant poser and list Green Day as the only punk band you can remember the name of...

The Clash are great though. Not going to say anything negative about them.

But American Punk is generally much better because our punk is about having a good time. It's just fun sounding.

British punk is more hardcore rebellious. American Punk is more whimsically youthful. The latter confers better emotions.

Listen to the Screeching Weasels, they've mellow.

I like my punk to sound more like the old beach rock stuff, mellow, warm weather music you can dance to. Yes, dance to.

the beatles

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The Animals

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Originally Posted by Mal

, but I think you're making The Sex Pistols out to be something they weren't. They weren't messiahs, they didn't have a message. They were in the words of Ian Mackaye, "nihilistic junkies." They were a fucking train wreck, and people love to watch a train wreck.

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smh....lol

wu-tang clan
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jazz

/thread (im actually considering it..eloels)

^ that too, realistically speaking

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Originally Posted by Durag

I agree with some points in this thread but im gonna stay out of it.

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I'm with you on that lol.

American yankees don't wanna admit, but yeah, the Brits made the best rock music...

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Radiohead
The Smiths
Black Sabbath
David Bowie
Elton John
The Clash
The Who
The Kinks
Queen
Eric Clapton
Brian Eno
John Lennon

who do american crackers have -- dylan? elvis? haha fuck y'all

o ya, thx...forgot about bob

dylan

/thread (im so fuckin close to doing it..lmao)

i love how the anglophilic advocates in this thread ignore every musical artform created and pioneered by black americans in order to justify their highly dubious assertions.

actually, no...i hate it.

not just that, but the shoddy reasoning about things like the sex pistols being more important to punk than the ramones

this thread is shit and only proves how ignorant and incapable of reason most of you half-wits are.

--unsubscribes to thread.--

dusk, i implore you to close this thread...this is reaching 2pac vs. Lupe Fiasco levels of stupidity, especially now that the raging anti-semite 'theheavens' decided to offer his worthless and unsolicited opinion.

peace be unto you assholes

Anyone who lists Clapton in an argument for Britain > America is a complete imbecile.

Where the fuck do you think he got his whole style from?

Imma be serious, this shit don't even matter.

No it doesn't, it's still a stupid thing to say though.

Eric Claptons a fucking faggot anyway, fuck him.

Anyway I noticed one of the new "up and coming big names" from BROOKLYN, New York, a band called "The Drums", are relevent to this thread, because theyre a perfect example of an American band basing pratically everything they do on British rock (in this case, 90's brit pop swag)

see for yourself



it doesnt get anymore 90s english than that. these guys are from brooklyn lol.

I give them credit though, they do it WELL lol, decent song too.

^^^the equally inane counterpoint to that argument would again be that non-american hip-hop as a whole is a facsimile, mr 'creepin on da come up'... and dude, your using the phrase '90s brit-pop swag' is in no way ironic.

wow! american indie bands that barely anyone has heard of emulate british rock. golly! brit music pwns! yippy!

and it's very weak that people keep rehashing arguments that me, dusk, bateman, tsa and visionz already shot down several pages ago.

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pandemic you keep saying your leaving the thread like 5 times

stop coming back with your cliche ridden posting style

your gonna post again too, because i did.

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Originally Posted by Pandemic

^^^the equally inane counterpoint to that argument would again be that non-american hip-hop as a whole is a facsimile, mr 'creepin on da come up'... and dude, your using the phrase '90s brit-pop swag' is in no way ironic.

wow! american indie bands that barely anyone has heard of emulate british rock. golly! brit music pwns! yippy!

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The more butthurt you get the cornier your posts become.

You mention brits liking american hip hop, your missing one point, we dont deny that, or hide that, because we dont have this weird inferiorty complex with all things foreign like Americans do. We have no problem being influenced by something american, it doesnt matter where the fuck it came from.

whatever americans invented, the Brits (The Beatles and Radiohead) perfected. who gives a fuck who influenced who. The Beatles >>>>>all american yankees

Dude The Beatles basically invented having a band.

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Originally Posted by wera

I only agree that Brits make the best rock music. And I agree that some [White Stripes for example] are mimicking english rock.

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Black America invented every form of modern music you can think of (with reggae being the one lone exception). Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't have their facts straight.

Whats the hype?

Brits made the best rock music hands down.

What's retarded about this is that people are saying that the Americans are using the British style. The British have been using our style for decades. There really isn't much of a difference between a British singer and an American singer vocally.

The British artists have been ripping off Blues, Jazz, and Soul worse then any American has.

The Rolling Stones dick rode Lil Richie to the top.
The Beatles and Animals were ripping off all the classics at first. The Beatles were originally what amounts to an American hits cover band that eventually went their own way.

Then they come over here, renaissance our homegrown american music, and reap the profits. Can't say they're lousy, but they were British artists doing American music.

Then we evolved from there, but the Beatles are for all intents and purposes Americans. They idolized our culture, came over here, lived here, and died here. They're not British, they're from Britain.

ITT: people who think theyre spreading knowledge by announcing rock music was based on black music.

Yes, everyone knows that, faggots, what has that got to do with anything?

You're also forgetting to mention that it was THE BEATLES who bought back the "black" sound to rock n roll because the trend at that time in American popular music was moving away from the "black" sound, it was Beatles who made it the thing again.

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

Then we evolved from there, but the Beatles are for all intents and purposes Americans. They idolized our culture, came over here, lived here, and died here. They're not British, they're from Britain.

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LMAO nice troll post faggot. Just proves how desperate you are when the Beatles gets mentioned.

Protip: The Beatles HATED America, especially Lennon, and did about everything they possibly could to piss off many Americans for as long as they were popular (insulting Jesus, bigging up Russia, preaching anti war, converting to Buddism/Hindusim, marrying japs, and everything else).

Lennon spent nearly all of his time telling Americans to be less American LOL.



P.s

Pandemic was moved to neg repped me in this thread lmao what a faggot. u mad son.

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

What's retarded about this is that people are saying that the Americans are using the British style. The British have been using our style for decades. There really isn't much of a difference between a British singer and an American singer vocally.

The British artists have been ripping off Blues, Jazz, and Soul worse then any American has.

The Rolling Stones dick rode Lil Richie to the top.
The Beatles and Animals were ripping off all the classics at first. The Beatles were originally what amounts to an American hits cover band that eventually went their own way.

Then they come over here, renaissance our homegrown american music, and reap the profits. Can't say they're lousy, but they were British artists doing American music.

Then we evolved from there, but the Beatles are for all intents and purposes Americans. They idolized our culture, came over here, lived here, and died here. They're not British, they're from Britain.

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hahaha faggot ass yankee. admit it, Brits have the best rock music. even Radiohead is shitting all over american music today....

rolling stone mag: best album of the decade..... Radiohead KID A

I like the Drums.

But don't you think they're influenced pretty heavily by American soft rock bands?

Beach Boys are an obvious influence.

Just because they had a music video called i wanna go surfing and they ran down the side of a beach for the duration of it..

My favourite music over the years is probably American - wu being the best example - though dylan, tom petty and others. Soul, funk, Jazz, hip Hop. Americana (jeez - america does that best - I'd never have guessed!). The US have got that and more. (

But the UK has punched well above our weight. EDM - and in particular the DJ as a rockstar, the wonderous Drum and Bass (I'm too old for dubstep) and various types of hard rock and 'intiligentista' type indie music such as Radiohead, the smiths (which I personally don't really like). I thought The UK punk scene was great - don't under-rate that first sex pistols lp - and such like.