why??? what did she sayQuote:
Originally Posted by TRONIX
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why??? what did she sayQuote:
Originally Posted by TRONIX
He has other obligations once released, probably not enough time to hit a studio & probably will have a curfew to return home at some point.
I don't sound childish at all. I don't know why you're catching feelings my nigga, but what I said is true. You shouldn't of even made that Priest thread without knowing if you could really do it or not. Now you wanna do a Killa Sin album to get yourself out the hole you dug. You want us to pay 50 dollars for a brand new album? That's absurd nigga, come on let's be for real here....Why do u want to recreate the sound of back then anyway, that is automatic fail, let's move hip-hop forward and not back, that era is NEVER coming back, why not try to bring that new sound that we can look forward to instead of tryna recreate shit...I would buy a Sin album but 50 dollars? Come on.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
"Why do u want to recreate the sound of back then anyway"
Because the old sound was better then today's.
"that is automatic fail, let's move hip-hop forward and not back, that era is NEVER coming back,"
The era may not come back, but that old sound with a slight new twist is the best thing some of these producers can offer (Ringz is an example).
"why not try to bring that new sound that we can look forward to instead of tryna recreate shit"
Man why you think "I" was such an ill album, sure it didn't move hip-hop forward but it was EXACTLY what Wu fans wanted. An album produced by the Elements with that gritty sound. That new shit isnt always the best.
Hahahahahahaahahaaaa Damn Hollow Farts even managed to get on a usually distanced Ringzies nerves. Dont worry Cilva, you'd be surprised how often this happens.
Do what you gotta do rings, chances are whichever decision you make were gonna dig it.
killa sin no doubt hands DOWN! no disrespect to priest.. its just priest got a mad discography. sin got nadda... and thats a fuckin' crime
...plus imo sin is a better rapper. but thats just me
Sin's full album over Ringz beats? Pffff nigga pleeeaaase, this shit will never happen! Fo real! This is on some Doom/Ghost collabo shit... Yall will see! Shit will NEVER drop! So stop this hype Ringo!!! Peace
Please not that what fans want thing !!! It is stupid in this kind of case (tracks that don t exist) but is legitimate is the case of unreleased stuff made during a lovely era like the HM stuff or the 4th tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin10304
And to talk about the HM stuff, i didn t understand something : if KP don t record a full new LP produced by Cilva, it won t be released ? If you make a poll : HM stuff VS any new stuff you want, the HM stuff will win so why forcing someone to do a revival album to release what deserves its own proper release ? The energy should be used to release the 4th tracks and the HM stuff...no ?
/\ You know how many fans bitched about the generals NOT having RZA or other Element production? YEARS homie. "How come Meth didn't holler at Bobby or Tru for this album?" "Man Ghost's new shit is too glossy, commercial, he needs to stick to RZA". Or them wanting the next Wu album to be fully produced by the Elements. I'm not lying in the slightest sense, then finally Ringz comes around and drops "I" with that Wu sound. Next up is Killarmy's 4th album with full production from the team plus Falling Down.
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Originally Posted by Jin10304
Requesting RZA and 4th/TM/Math isn t automatically requesting revival stuff. It is also requesting the wu sonic specificity that i got in 8D for example. There are another wu lovers who are curious to hear what NEW stuff they (RZA and those, amongst the elements, who have enough culture & vision to handle a project like an LP or something like that) can cook with their current tastes, talents, feelings, evolution (i m talking about artistic projects, not about business ones). Bronze, cilva don t belong to the wu, they are inspired by the wu. They are just wu fans who try to produce and that had the opportunity to be in relation with some of the generals and the KBs. They are able to do some revival stuff that i find decent sometimes but they are too much stucked in that famous era to provide something that i find interesting. They are caged in what the wu already did sonically. It sounds too forced to be good. It misses too often the soul.
I never said they wanted an old sound, just that fans didnt like Wu members venturing OUT of the Wu realm looking for outside production, whether it was an old style or not, they wanted RZA,4th,Math & Tru on albums like they've been doing all these years. Once "I" dropped, its basically what fans wanted, a Wu Element produced album. As far as the SOUND went, thats open for interpretation whether they stayed in their old lane or tried something new like how RZA did on 8D.
As for Ringz & Bronze, of course there trying to capture that old sound, THATS WHAT THEY GREW UP ON AS FANS. They didnt get into the Wu when RZA stopped spearheading projects and changing his sound. They became fans from the old solos when they had Element production, so thats the sound they always knew & liked and tried to emulate. Both do a great job with it and stand in as 'new Wu producers' that fans like when they request that 'old Wu sound'. Thats been there role since 2003 almost.
hey Cilva i would dig your production with any of the Killa Bees or Generals rapping over it so i'll support whatever collaboration album you put out as long as the quality is there.
Sin all the way -- no question.
Besides, he's definitely got more to get off his chest being away for so long.
And, you would be giving us, the fans, what we've been waiting for for ages. Thanks in advance
PLz make it happen.
Sin is too talent not to hav a full length out there
Killa Sin is the best of all Wu fam -- period.
I disregarded what u said before this....."I" wasn't all that lets be for real. Cilvaringz has hot beats though I'll give him that. And wtf are you talking about? A whole album produced by the wu-elements in 2010 would still be considered new shit. new beats new concepts. Anyways Cilvaringz how ya gonna get yaself outta this hole?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin10304
"And wtf are you talking about? A whole album produced by the wu-elements in 2010 would still be considered new shit"
Im talking "new" as new producers who are trying to move ahead with the sound of hip hop. The Elements, sans RZA, usually stay in their lane of their own sound realm. The fans had been wanting an Element produced album for ages considering the last one was Deck's debut. And lets be for real, "I" was the shit when it dropped and gave everyone that Wu sound they wanted for such a long time.
If you've commited to making an album for Priest, and Priest knows your producing it for him, to then go and reconsider it publicly is kinda lame is it not?
iF THat's not the case then apologies.
Personally I think I would prefer KP, sure Killa Sin is dope but if what sinfully was saying the chances of him doing were true it would be sparse.
Well from what he's saying Priest is hard to get a hold of, Ringz's part as a producer is complete for the album, but with no MC behind the tracks, he's basically sitting on a instrumental album that he wants to utilize even if it may be a different one then Priest. Sin is getting out soon in 2011 right?
Sin will be out in 20 days
October 5th, 2010=SIN IS OUT, good to hear
good to hear. looking foward to hearing him after he gets back on his feet.
And........................poof! :king:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Sin no questions asked. We need a solo from him more than any other killa bee or affiliate.
glad he's home in 20 days I hope he gets back on his feet proper and focuses on the mic cause he's a fuckin dope and mad underrated mc
Killa Sin is probably the best out of the wu fam in my opinion. Burning Season, Dress to Kill is my shit. He kills it on Gunz N' Razors too. DEFS Killa Sin for sure Cilvaringz and be to give him that rough shit
Does Sin even know or wants this?
i dont think soQuote:
Originally Posted by El Don
cilva is just asking for the ppl's opinion ^^
I voted, priest, but if he's too busy for this then i guess Sin will do fine, that is if he wants in
I have not heard one bad song from Killa Sin...He is my second favorite rapper slowly becoming my first...Not just out of the Wu-Fam...But overall and that means a lot...To me at least...I say Killa Sin!
Def KILLA SIN! :)
But I thought he was going to quit the hiphopgame..
i voted Killa Sin
would love to hear a full album from him, especially with the certified bangers that I'm sure Cilva would produce
Ok let's be real.. Cilva is a skilled producer, very able to do either...
But A) let's stop dickridin I for "bringing back the wu sound".. Very few people have actually heard the album, its good for what it is but that's it.
B) sin hasn't recorded much in the last 15 or so years period..the last killarmy album dropped 9 years ago... The chances of him WANTING cilvaringz to produce his WHOLE album.. In the climate the world is in today.. I don't see it.I see him wanting to work with somethin that will help him a lil more but what do I know
C) Are u prepared to not get paid? Cause I know people will throw him a slew of beats for free.
If u made it for priest, and have been talking to priest about unreleased shit, I don't see why its so hard to discuss this album. Pull this off, get a lil more exposure as a good producer and make another cd with the beats u made for sin
"Very few people have actually heard the album, its good for what it is but that's it"
Doesnt matter if only handful of people have heard it, but it had that old Wu sound/vibe and all Element production. In The Name Of Allah alone was worth it.
sin easily, but let's be realistic, chances of it happen are too fucking small to compute.
I think Killa Sin needs to have his own album. Its past due. Wu-Tang FOREVER since 93
Yes, and the main concern should be to release the unreleased stuff as it was announced. Not to make some tracks which try to sound like that unreleased stuff (and what was released during its era) 10+ years later in another context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nagual
I'm gonna go against the grain and say a killa sin killah priest album together would be awesome.
I rather hear a Solo album from Killa Sin only because never got that from him before but I would like to hear a Killah Priest record only because I feel like his last couple of albums have been lacking in production
I just spoke to Priest yesterday. We're discussing it again. Sin is not off the table neither.
alright, well it seems like everyone wants a Killah Sin album, not a Killah Priest. KP is dope, but we need Killah Sin to drop a raw ass solo.
Damn, I'm assuming if Sin records an album Cilva you'll have to go to the States because won't he be on any type of probation or travel restrictions or anything?
Regardless of that.....I want to hear an album from both....
1) Priest because his last few albums sucked bc of the shitty DJ Wool production, and I know Cilva has some fire beats that would suit Priest's style perfectly.
2) Sin because he's the best member of Killarmy, and he never got that proper solo release that he should have.....
Damn man thats really a hard choice.....
What happened to that Killarmy album that was supposed to happen?