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Originally Posted by corky831
I agree. Cappa has always been hit or miss, throughout his career. The only thing that annoyed me about him on here, was that he was on almost every damn song.
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Originally Posted by corky831
I agree. Cappa has always been hit or miss, throughout his career. The only thing that annoyed me about him on here, was that he was on almost every damn song.
It's good to see some love for Preacher's Daughter lol. I agree it's dope.Quote:
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I hate Popa Wu, he always annoyed with his shit.
Never. Besides his dope verse on Winter Warz when did he outshine or match someone else on Forever, OB4CL or Ironman? The Pillage is alright, dope here and utter wack there and everything elses is forgettable.Quote:
Originally Posted by corky831
Cappadona's biggest problem for me is he fucking boring on the mic. He has the energy of a sloth. He could only have had so much mic presence on ABT because he'd b getting paid the least
haven't heard the album yet, but if the hooks are really that bad ima just edit them out - problem solved. take me 5 minutes.
Mumm ra or somebody else, can you make a version of miracle, and ron o neil without nathaniel?
Miracle is the best track but i m too sad that rza add this gay chorus
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Originally Posted by JZA/Jordon
LMAO, duds? what duds are on Wu-Tang Forever? The only bs song on there is Black Shampoo (I always stop after Heaterz anyway). That album is damn near flawless. ABT is cool, but nowhere close to Wu-Tang Forever. Just one disc from it alone, shits all over ABT.
pretty good (short) review of the album:
Wu-Tang Clan becomes a Disneyfied revival act on A Better Tomorrow
“Miracle” is the worst track the Wu-Tang Clan has ever recorded, and it’s not even a close race. A twinkling, schmaltzy hook about (yes) “miracles” descends every minute or so to interrupt a series of by-the-numbers verses. Masta Killa doesn’t even try: “A live scene theme from a Godfather saga / A Martin Scorsese classic and I’m the author,” he begins, before presumably falling asleep in the recording booth. Ghostface Killah’s verse about Ebola and the FDA closes with a transition into a hard-rock, Linkin Park-style outro, a stylistic choice so unconscionably bad the listener yearns to think of it as satire, parody, or gleeful self-sabotage.
It is not, though. Wu-Tang Clan, particularly the RZA, has always mixed absurdity with deadly seriousness. Everything is a code, a signifier pointing to something that perhaps only the RZA himself understands. This is why even something like the preposterous special effects on the “Triumph” video, or Ol’ Dirty Bastard’s proclamation that “Wu-Tang is for the children,” can be read as part of a grand ghetto superhero myth, a story of hip-hop self-actualization to rival Jay Z’s “me, under a lamppost.” ODB may’ve terrified Shawn Colvin to get there, but he was onstage at the Grammys, after all.
A listener, then, needs to take all of A Better Tomorrow’s tiny terrible aesthetic choices very seriously, not because the RZA does—he turned into a self-parody around 2007—but because the entire Wu-Tang story is so self-serious. Where these eccentricities were once paired with music brutal enough to sell them, A Better Tomorrow sounds like Disney Enters The 36 Chambers: Inspectah Deck finishes his traditional album-opening verse with a reference to both The Mentalist and The Big Bang Theory; Method Man draws an unflattering Pusha T comparison over chugging distorted guitars; Mathematics’ beat for “We Will Fight” feels like 2000’s “Gravel Pit” as done by a high-school marching band. Almost every track features a cringe-worthy hook, often by some man named Nathaniel, and the verses feature so many half-assed nods to older lines (“It’s still a cold world,” “When the emcees came, to live out the name…”) that the album begins to feel like what it is: a 20-years-after-the-fact stab at a comeback.
Listened to in sequence, A Better Tomorrow makes sense as the final progression from the Clan’s razor-wire debut into something polished and more hopeful. But as the intervals between all of those records has increased—it’s been seven years since 8 Diagrams, which itself came out six years after Iron Flag—the albums have sounded increasingly estranged from their hip-hop contemporaries. A Better Tomorrow has very little to do with the music of 20 years ago, but it has even less to do with the music of today; it’s completely out of joint, an island of irrelevance forced into being by the labor- and drama-intensive nature of the group. A nine-person crew made every album an event, which manipulated the shrink-wrapped marketplace of the ’90s, but this fussiness doesn’t make sense in the era of the 12-month press cycle and the dead-of-night mixtape release. If there’s a better tomorrow waiting for this group of MCs, it doesn’t involve another album together.
http://www.avclub.com/review/wu-tang...-better-212260
STILL no unheard ODB verse?!
I don't get it, like maybe there is no unheard ODB in the vault but I been expecting to still hear one since he passed
What a load of horseshit. If you can't appreciate the art of Miracle by the end of the track you deserve to be in the McDonalds line ordering a McDouble because that's all you need to be content.
Miracle is like a perfectly cooked filet, sure the plate has some unnecessary garnish but it's a fucking solid beat, storytelling and delivery by the generals.
Solid LP! Nothing ground breaking but was not expecting it to be. Tight production, great mix, stop listening to music thru you tube leaks on your iphone speakers and you might appreciate it more. Love the bass lines, vintage Rza shit, sometimes the drum kick drowns it out (we will fight) but fuck it eq the motherfucker, clans 3rd best lp, grown man shit
I don't really understand hate for Miracle either. The hook is odd, but the verses are fire. What's wrong with the Masta Killa line he quoted? It seems like he wants to say the album is bad, but has to make up reasons to justify that opinion.
that review sucked.
I really don't understand the dislike for this album still. its hard to rank the Wu albums for me, a lot of people don't like 8 Diagrams but I thought it was great, even Iron Flag has some awesome moments on it.
this album falls somewhere between those two. 36, Forever and The W are all incredible albums. but the last three have all been solid albums at different times
some people need to lighten up. you might enjoy something for once
Or stop living in the past. It is one of the only albums I have listened to in my life that I enjoy every track start to finish. Everything on here is enjoyableQuote:
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lmao