Yeah I haven't been playing much, trying to pay for college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
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Yeah I haven't been playing much, trying to pay for college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
Hey fellas... nice to see this topic still up... havent visited the board for a while....
and hell yeah ive been playing alot lately
i moved up to no limit cash games with blinds of $1-$2... been going pretty well i must say. added to that i got hooked up with a 60% rakeback deal which is fuckin monstrous
i defeinitely had to get used to the amounts, $400 pots etc. were pretty sick to be in constantly, but after a few days i eased in there pretty smoothly... plus, my bankroll can handle it. most people would even be playin $2-$4 with my roll, but i took a bit of a conservative route.. its always nice to have enough buyins imo, to absorb the swings etc.
anyway, i always considered myself more of a cash player then tournament, and enjoy it way more.... here is a graph of my last 27,000 hands played, all at $1-$2: (made with programs pokertracker and pokergrapher)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7996/ggsg1.jpg
my poker is in a slump right now, need to get back on the win train.
I came up with this poker quiz in my sleep last night.....
game type/ online multi-table tourny/NL texas Hold Em'
players/ 19 of 108 left
your table/ 8 players
your table image/ tight
table type/ tight
# of cash spots/18
Avg. chip stack / 9000
Your chips/ 11050
blinds/ 200-400, 50 ante
running time/ just over 2 hours
Amazingly there really aren't any shortstacks in too much danger, the lowest being 5550 in the big blind. You and your table have been very tight up to this point. You are on the button with AJ suited and make a stiff raise to 1700, leaving you with 9300 remaining. The opponent in the big blind takes up 29 of his 30 seconds before shoving the rest of his stack in the pot. The pot is now 7800 and the bet is 3800 to you.
this is a three part answer
A. Put your opponent on a hand, logically (there are 5 correct answers)
B. What is your decision Call or Fold?
C. Explain your reason for your decision, and how you came to that conclusion.
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
A. Here are the two scenarios:
1. He has a monster. Bullets, kings or queens. He takes so long to look unsure and wants you to think its an attempt to steal your raise.
2. He has nothing/average hand. B/c of the table situation he's simply trying to steal without wanting anybody to call.
I'd go with no. 1 here.
B. Fold.
C. AJ is an average hand. I want to raise with that hand and not to call an all-in. That's an easy fold.
GFX is pretty close on this, I will post the answer later...
That stiff raise might just look like a button steal and the BB might have 8s or 9s and make it a coin flip. On the other hand the lowest chip stack usually tries to fold their way in the money and could have JJ or QQ.
This is the situation where AJ is annoying since it only becomes playable in the later positions.
Nevertheless the remaining chips is still a bit over average. I would probably fold that if it was a larger starting field and make note of my new table image and take advantage of that. I wouldnt care if I had him beat. If you lose you are in last place in chips and fighting for a money spot.
Since this is a shorter MTT with 108 I want to aim for a top 3 finish and I would call it. I wouldnt care if the result was me in last place in a tight race. I usually play more aggressive on the bubble. Money is closer to 20% than 10% of the field so it cant be that much for a low placing.
The key to this whole problem is the fact he took his entire time to act. This is a dead giveaway for a strong but beatable hand. The delay means he is waiting for the last possible second to push in case somebody busts on the bubble, but his hand is unfoldable. With this information we can safely assume he doesn't have aces or kings since most players don't have the presence of mind to delay with a hand like that. With a hand smaller than 10s most players will not want to race for all their chips with a hand that bad, especially on the bubble. Remember pro we are 2 hours in at a tight table, and nobody wants to waste two hours of their life and get nothing in return. Keeping that in mind a bluff is also very highly unlikely because you are getting 2 to 1 odds, so a call is almost automatic. So whats left? The two most likely holdings are QQ and AK. TT is a possibility also, although unlikely, and JJ is even more unlikely since you have a jack. This leaves just AQ and a good percentage of players know it's track record in tournies and they will just fold. So, assuming we have pretty much narrowed it down to those 5 hands, we can see that you are dominated in four of the matchups, and against tens you are still a 11 to 9 dog.
So, what does it all mean? Well in most cases you simply cannot fold getting two to one odds preflop, but these are special circumstances. A likely loss means you have essentially traded chipstacks with the shortstack and that is a definite no-no. Fold here, stay with the average chipstack and make a strong push for the final table. Remember there are 8 at your table which means the other 2 tables have 5 and 6 players each meaning the blinds will go around much faster at those tables. Let somebody else take the risk, because the rewards simply don't equal the risk here.
here is my breakdown of your opponent's likely holdings
QQ = 35%
AK = 30%
TT = 10%
JJ = 5%
AQ = 5%
AA OR KK = 5%
a lower pair = 5%
nothing = 3%
the same or a weaker ace = 2%
The likely holdings is a good breakdown. When someone take all their time to act like it can be many things. I do that on occasion in a similar BB position with aces because I wanted the other guy to call me to double. I do a whole bunch of different stalling moves and switch it up.
I overlooked what it would be like on the other table and that is unlike me and I sometimes play to match the conditions on the other table for the final table.
Might as well make a push for the final table. When the money is closer to 20% losing just in it just gives you your entry fee back.
Have any of you ever felt nervous when you enter a tourney and never played in a while like the time when you just started playing or never been in a casino before? Happened to me just now.
I had nothing left but a $26 token in my account and I havent played in months. I entered a 90 man SNG with $4 bounties. Lucky I got AA and landed a boat then AQs and landed a flush for 2 quick KOs....now I at least have some funds in my account.
Before I started playing too big for my bank roll and the variance got me.
i think i need more details to shape a better answer
for instance, you say the table has been tight. but does this mean it has been folded to the BB every time? is noone putting any pressure from position or is noone fighting back against this pressure? both could be seen as tight situations but they are pretty different
anyways... i think im leaning towards a call here as the guy is (somewhat) short and you have him well covered.. and seeing as you have AJ its less likely he has AK or AQ. he can have any pocket pair which is a good thing.
he could likely be pushing a much wider range as youre raising from the button in an unopened pot
BTW, im in the $100+$9 freezeout on pokerstars right now... wish me luck :i
Heres one that happened to me
Mtt 5k Guarantee,
250 of 450 players left
your chips 2330 (sb)
seat 5 chips 3405
bb chips 1155
blinds 20-40
seat 5 calls 40
you call 20 with Qc Ts
big blind checks
flop 9s 7h Th
I bet 120
bb folds
seat 5 calls
turn Kh
I bet 210
seat 5 calls
River 7d
I check
He takes 25 of 30 seconds then bets 501.97 into 780 pot
A. put your opponent on a hand
B. do you a)Fold b)Call c)raise min d)raise All in
looking at that guy's view and if you consider the hesitation he was wondering why the 7 scared you so much and he wouldnt check if he had the flush. He wanted you to fold. He could have had nothing. If I looked more into the hesitation I guess I would have called.
That is one part of internet poker Im not good at is analysing the people taking time however I am decent at using that tactic myself, My brother showed me many times when someone makes an intentional stall but sometimes I overlook things.
I will say this, I called his hand out.
While a flush is possible, it is highly unlikely that he would be that flamboyant and odd with a "made" hand. Right away after he called the first time, I put him on a draw. I wanted to test that theory and the possibility that he did have the flush. My bet and his quick call on the turn told me for the first time that the flush was probably not his hand. This brought me back to the open-ended straight draw. so with a board landscape of KT97 i started focusing in on an 8 being one of his cards, and he limped in middle position meaning the hand probably wasn't that bad so that led me to an ace being his other card. Yes, I had it figured out on the turn. But, just in case, he threw a bunch more evidence at me on the river.
I check often on the river, not because I'm weak, but because I like to get a final guage on my opponent's hand as well as give them the opportunity to bluff me, which believe me they do. Also I like to protect myself from being reraise bluffed, because it is much easier to simply call a bet than a huge reraise. He does two things here which nail his coffin. 1. he takes a lot of time to act on the river which is generally a sign of "I'm thinking about giving up or trying to steal the pot because its my only way to win. 2. The second is his crazy bet which is an obvious cover-up for the time he took. Why would he bet a flush like that? There is almost no reason.
on the chat I wrote
"Gee I guess you have A8" and called...
he showed Ace eight of clubs