Yeah I did forget, was busy last night though, gonna read results now.
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Yeah I did forget, was busy last night though, gonna read results now.
I'm assuming RVD/Rhino seemed decent, gotta see that Van Terminator...
Williams/Styles sounded like it was good.
MCMG vs Gen Me was probably the show stealer.
Other than that nothing seems to jump out. Hardy retained of course.
And The Shore is still in control.
I'm not doubting the match was good (I'd even go as far as to say it was very good). But not MOTY type good (especially since, again, if for no other reason, there was never any doubt who was going over). Also, truth be told, you're clearly a mark for Lawler so even if listed 50 matches better (honestly, I don't think there were 50 WWE matches this year better than that Lawler/Miz), you already have your "Nope, that sucked compared to Lawler/Miz, next?" pretyped. So I'll keep it simple and just say that HBK/Undertaker had a better backstory, better crowd reaction, better offense, meant ALOT more as a match, and history will pretty much write it as one of the most memorable matches of 2010, whereas Miz/Lawler will be remembered among Miz's matches (most likely), but in the history of wrestling it'll be lost in the shuffle. It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Knowledge
To your other question, I consider Lawler one of the greats for all his pre-WWE stuff. His Memphis work is pretty much undeniable. If we're just talking USA, I'd say he's pretty high on the greatest ever list (lower end of the top 20 or so).
And about the Flair/Edge match, I think you may have misread what I typed. I'm saying I DID think, for a split second, that Flair could go over in that match. Unlike the Miz/Lawler match (which was still very good in my eyes), there were too many factors as to why Miz would definitely not lose the belt against Lawler.
Any Shimmer fans in here? I'm recently catching back up with all the recent volumes (I put them on the backburner while I playing catch up with the recent Chikara and EVOLVE DVDs). As much as I enjoy Ring of Honor, Shimmer is creeping up to my 2nd favorite promotion these days. Chikara, is still my favorite, but I'm loving the old school feel of Shimmer (and to see a promotion full of women that can work better than a lot of men is really refreshing).
It's great to have high-quality alternatives to the messy booking of TNA, and the nurtured storylines of WWE.
It's funny because I never liked Lawler, until recently as I got older and was able to backtrack to his real work. Still ain't a huge Lawler fan. But I see where you would think I am a Lawler mark. I'm definitely not though. There's only one wrestler I mark for and that's Sabu. I was religiously arguing with folks that his latest TNA run was a good one LOL. Let's not even go there though.
As for knowing Lawler's work then good I am glad, you should understand then why an old dude like myself could actually get in to things for once. Have an actual passion for cheering a wrestler on again. I don't think I've said "CMON NIGGA GET UP THERE!" or "CMON NIGGA PIN HIS ASS!" but once in the past 7 or so years and that was when RVD won the TNA title. I love seeing the old schoolers and to see them actually not have to job / look REALLY old is just a plus.
As for SHIMMER, no I am not in to that but I know about it and I know the females there are really good. The thing about the good wrestling today, most of the indies, like you alluded to, is you have to BUY everything or DOWNLOAD everything or PAY for shows. Or you have to check out their home pages and read results, news, blahzay blah. It's a hassle to follow good wrestling today. I think the closest to seeing good wrestling on TV is ROH on HDNet and not everyone has that. I remember the days when ECW was on in syndication on Sunshine, WWF and WCW had about 3 extra shows a week other than Mondays, IWA Puerto Rico was on Sunshine, MLW was on Sunshine after ECW folded, we used to get WoW and WeW on Sunshine and also a few other small times/weird companies. They even would show old Wrestling from Florida shows; Eddie Graham's old company now turned in to FCW, WWE's farm league..bleh. We even used to get some FCW shows on CSS time to time. And then about 5 years ago it all stopped and it's been all WWE and TNA all the time.
It's either that or constantly face-palming yourself trying to sit through an entire WWE or TNA broadcast. They both still put on great matches from time to time, but it's a very difficult task, as an adult, to get through an entire TV episode (and most PPVs for that matter these days). Whereas, I I'm assured to enjoy at least 80% of the card from one of the quality indy feds everytime. I remember when Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, and Summerslam were the wrestling shows I most looked forward to every year. Even back in high school, when I was already into many Japanese federations, WCW, and ECW, those three shows I'd always look forward to catching live. Nowadays I could careless about Wrestlemania or Summerslam (I'll read the results, and then stream the matches that interest me later, but I wouldn't force myself to sit through an entire card anymore). I still look forward to Royal Rumble just because of the style of the Rumble match. The best wrestling show of the year for me, for the past three years, has been Chikara's three day King of Trios tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Knowledge
Also, there are sites that regularly post the new indies DVDs as they come out. It cuts the "hassle to follow" aspect down completely. There is one megasite in particular, but the membership is closed (they really don't want their stuff spread to random leeching boards). If you're interested following some of the quality indie feds (that actually cater to wrestling fans that have been watching since the 80s, and not overrun by TV writers who don't care about wrestling or tradition), I can hit you up with an invite next time I get one.
Eric Bischoff's son was a referee in the TNA PPV?
Does the WWE let CM Punk say whatever he wants as a commentator? I'm surprised they are that lenient on him, especially since they are a PG product and all. When Vince yells at him through the headset, I wonder if he just ignores him. And they let him wear a Charles Manson shirt? lol
Didn't MVP ask for his release? So he wasn't fired.
Here in the Philly area, they used to have on a bunch of indie leagues on the former WGTW channel 48, such as ROH, CZW, etc. I used to like watching the USWA that Lawler was involved with. His son would be on there too. I remember the Nation of Domination starting on there before it went to the WWE. I think it was the PG-13 tag team that had started it. They would probably still have wrestling shows on that channel if it hadn't been bought out by some religious company.
Congrats to Hulk Hogan on his new marriage.
There's a new contender for Match of the Year and it's Sheamus vs Morrison's ladder match at TLC. Based on talent, Morrison has the capability to reach HBK's level. He's probably already on it. Mic wise, his face gimmick is just lame and has nothing to it. His heel gimmick was pretty damn good, even though I never liked the guy it still resonated with me. Interested to see what they do with him now.
Sheamus is just a brute.. and he's damn good at it. I'm really getting used to Sheamus. He's at a disadvantage off rip because of his look.. but damn the dude BEASTS in the ring.
Did anyone think Randy was working stiff with Miz at TLC? There has been rumors of this before in the past so I especially caught on to it. Miz really looked like a boy in there versus Randy and that's what I was afraid of as far as Miz being pushed to the top spot.
WWE has really been impressing me I must say. The last half of this year really got me back in to things and I think we could be seeing a sway from the PG era. Maybe not completely back to 13 but I think we will see a little more guts in the storylines.
I heard that Morrison's main event level time will probably be just a short term thing.
Is Triple H still supposed to be coming back soon to feud with Sheamus?
See, I can tell the WWE doesn't like Morrison and maybe the reasons are obvious.. but c'mon.. this guy is amazingly talented. And he was REALLY selling the leg on Sunday.. I mean if he's gonna give and take like that in a match, and can do it ALL THE TIME? [Morrison usually delivers when he gets the opportunities] He can take it there to that next level.
Triple H vs. Sheamus should undoubtedly happen it's a matter of when Trips gets back. I don't read the dirt sheets but obviously since Sheamus put him out, when he returns it'll be to get payback. Just a matter of when. It's been a while now so I could see him wanting to get revenge at WM since he's already taken this much time off. Plus we know Trips loves the brightest lights. Either way it should be sooner than later, and if it continues to be later I'd say WM makes more n more sense.
cm punk feuding with john cena maybe over when cena spilled punk's diet soda?
^ lmfao
punk cena fued will be good
LOL Cena vs Punk? WHAT I SAY.. The E is delivering!!
How many people will tune in to seePunk try and show up Cena?
But Cena when you think of it..
DUDE IS THE ULTIMATE STRAIGHT EDGER.
Minus "The crack head on a 3 day binge" look ala Triple H to Punk
This could be the final nail in the coffin of Punk's good career.