DO you take Religion seriously.

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Originally Posted by Aqua Luna

Wtf?...smh

ok...just for arguments sake - IF a fish hopped out of water it must have been the one named The Original Asiatic BlackMan.

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LOL
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOME FISH THAT HOPPED OUT THE WATER AND THE FIRST MAN

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Originally Posted by Maboya

Sounds spooky. Are you suggesting that you see something beyond the physical aspects, perhaps something spiritual as well?
It is not spooky. Emotion, thought, motive, etc. are not spooky. They are not physical, either - You can't see them or touch them. That is what I meant.

Yes, but only in your last post from what I've seen. And it was about time too, because before it all you seemed to do was trade insults and parrot "the Blackman is God" ad nauseum. o.k....thanks...I think...

What is your point in asking this? He of course was/is devil down to his bones. Yes he is completely devil. I asked because I wanted to know why you choose that particular devil as an example.

At times. But are you implying here that this person 'inwardly' was/is a reformed devil?

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No. I would rather compare him to a well trained Dog.

Aqua Luna What Do U Think Is Harder Trying To Lead The Dumb Deaf And Blind To The Right Path Or Trying To Swim In Deep Waters Filled With Hungry Sharks? I ONLY ASK U THIS CUZ THAT IS HOW DIFFICULT THE TASK OF SAVING THEM SEEMS SOMETIMES FEEL ME?

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It is not spooky. Emotion, thought, motive, etc. are not spooky.

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I agree these things are not spooky. But "thought" for example isn't something one sees in others.

And the question was God beyond the physical realm, or the spirit in general.

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They are not physical, either - You can't see them or touch them. That is what I meant.

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Right, these things are only known when they are manifested by the individual -- hence these are not things you essentialy "see".

So this begs the question -- where are they found before being manifested?

Would you say that the mind is something different from the brain?

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Yes he is completely devil. I asked because I wanted to know why you choose that particular devil as an example.

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Because you had stated :

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Some of those others are Devils who will never admit this Truth.

The Devil is a liar and a slanderer...he will lie even unto his death.

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This seemed to be your reasoning for not dropping facts on why "the Blackman is God" on those you consider to be devils in this thread, thus I mentioned even among the so-called First Borns there was a devil who accepted your truth.

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I would rather compare him to a well trained Dog.

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That's fine. But dogs don't talk, there was at least one devil (and there's more) who admitted to and spoke your so-called truth.

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Originally Posted by Maboya

I agree these things are not spooky. But "thought" for example isn't something one sees in others. right, you cannot see thought.

And the question was God beyond the physical realm, or the spirit in general.
That is my understanding of spirit - emotion, thought, motive.

Right, these things are only known when they are manifested by the individual -- hence these are not things you essentialy "see".

So this begs the question -- where are they found before being manifested?

Would you say that the mind is something different from the brain? I would say that the mind does not manifest without with out the brain. But, with that being said, the brain is what makes the body function.
Simply put - the "spiritual" does not matter if the physical doesn't manifest it.

And that goes for emotion, thought and motive - It is all inconsequential without physical manifestation.


This seemed to be your reasoning for not dropping facts on why "the Blackman is God" on those you consider to be devils in this thread, thus I mentioned even among the so-called First Borns there was a devil who accepted your truth. I was busy exposing the fact that a Devil attempted to slander the Truth. And I am telling you now that accepting or rejecting the truth does not a devil make. It takes the physical make - up, in addition. But, if someone admits to being a slanderer then I will call him by name - Satan.


That's fine. But dogs don't talk, there was at least one devil (and there's more) who admitted to and spoke your so-called truth.

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A human dog says many things...

thought can be seen in words and actions

unless the words are lies

and if one is pointed out to be a lier, then his thoughts are seen

if the spiritual is not Physical, then what is it ?



if the physical is what we can see, hear,touch, and smell

then the spiritual (for some) is what you cannot see,hear, touch, or smell



Then how does one know that the spiritual even exist if they cannot see, hear,touch, or smell it ?

^there are mediums which can be felt but not seen. Soundwaves are the first one that comes to mind. Things of that nature lead me to believe in the possibility of existence beyond our own perception. Much the same way that a bee can see things in the red color spectum that no human can percieve.

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Originally Posted by Eric Unseen

^there are mediums which can be felt but not seen. Soundwaves are the first one that comes to mind. Things of that nature lead me to believe in the possibility of existence beyond our own perception. Much the same way that a bee can see things in the red color spectum that no human can percieve.

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sound cannot be seen ?

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Originally Posted by Eric Unseen

Things of that nature lead me to believe in the possibility of existence beyond our own perception.

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how are you going about trying to make this belief a fact ?

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sound cannot be seen ?

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I guess it depends on the medium it's traveling thru. Through water, I guess you could see sound. But for the air, I would have to say no.

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how are you going about trying to make this belief a fact ?

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I, personally, am able to accept things on faith alone. I try to stay away from saying this is a fact, or that is a fact, when it comes to spiritual or religous beliefs. Ultimately, those "facts" are goin to conflicts with someone elses "facts", and the disagreements are rarely ever dealt with in a reasonable manner. I try to use religous text as a guideline for my own personal conduct. What I seek is understanding of as many different perspectives as possible. I think when it comes to religon, things would be better off in seeking what unifies rather than what seperates.

Originally Posted by whitey
ok let me rephrase.

why isnt the first fish that hopped out of the water that all land life spawned from god?




All Praise is due to the first fish with feet Lmao !

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Originally Posted by Eric Unseen

I guess it depends on the medium it's traveling thru. Through water, I guess you could see sound. But for the air, I would have to say no.



I, personally, am able to accept things on faith alone. I try to stay away from saying this is a fact, or that is a fact, when it comes to spiritual or religous beliefs. Ultimately, those "facts" are goin to conflicts with someone elses "facts", and the disagreements are rarely ever dealt with in a reasonable manner. I try to use religous text as a guideline for my own personal conduct. What I seek is understanding of as many different perspectives as possible. I think when it comes to religon, things would be better off in seeking what unifies rather than what seperates.

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its good to see another thinking person in these parts

P.E.A.C.E.

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

Originally Posted by whitey
ok let me rephrase.

why isnt the first fish that hopped out of the water that all land life spawned from god?




All Praise is due to the first fish with feet Lmao !

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In biology, evolution is the process by which populations of organisms acquire and pass on novel traits from generation to generation. Its action over large stretches of time explains the origin of new species and ultimately the vast diversity of the biological world. Contemporary species are related to each other through common descent, products of evolution and speciation over billions of years.

Whoever beleives in god in here must believe in scientific design or your beliefs are automatically proved incorrect through the fossil record. And in that case scientific design is just religion with a scientific mask because its been quite clear all other aspects of religion have been defeated by science.

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Originally Posted by whitey

In biology, evolution is the process by which populations of organisms acquire and pass on novel traits from generation to generation. Its action over large stretches of time explains the origin of new species and ultimately the vast diversity of the biological world. Contemporary species are related to each other through common descent, products of evolution and speciation over billions of years.

Whoever beleives in god in here must believe in scientific design or your beliefs are automatically proved incorrect through the fossil record. And in that case scientific design is just religion with a scientific mask because its been quite clear all other aspects of religion have been defeated by science.

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so how long before the next group of fish begin to grow feet,walk onto the land and turn into humans ?

like i said. it takes billions of years for this to happen. its been happening since the beginging of the earth. the conditions of our planet and the distance from the sun were just in the right alighnment with the right tilt of the axis that it allowed the process to start.

why life hasnt it happend on so many other planets?