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LOl at dude going for the single leg takedown
Real nice main card on FX tonight. Should be some good scraps.
Demetrious Johnson vs. Ian McCall - flyweight-tourney opening round
Charlie Brenneman vs. Erick Silva
Josh Neer vs. Mike Pyle
Scott Jorgensen vs. Eddie Wineland
hahha this youtube show is hilarious
Good performance on a sleeper-of-a-card at UFC 147, Wandi had a good effort, Franklin shows he's got a fuckin' chin, dunno if I'd have given Rich a "U" decision, I'd have given a very close "split" considering Wandi was the closest one of the 2 getting a finish. Rich had a good round in the 3rd, but not close enough to finish IMO, and I'd like to see a Franklin Silva III.
Overall, I'd say a 3 out of 5 star card only because the Silva/Franklin fight was worth watching, and the Werdum TKO was decent.
Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with UFC 147, but since the card didn't look that great on paper I didn't expect much anyway. A couple of the prelim fights were pretty solid and I was getting amped up with Wandy had Rich almost finished at one point. At least the main event brought the card up a notch. I can't wait to see Silva take out Sonnen at 148.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Michaelz
I missed 147 -__-
^ you didn't miss much, Aside from the Wandi/Franklin fight, the only other main card match that was worth watching was the Werdum fight
I wouldve liked to see Wandy win but I aint mad that Franklin won. It would be good for the sport to have him run for the belt again.
Damn I didnt know Huerta lost like that, brutal kick!!!
source: fightersonlymagazine.co.uk
“I guess Wanderlei will be able to fight in October but I only want that my next bout that accredits me to dispute the belt. I don’t know, maybe Michael Bisping. I was only defeated once recently, by Anderson Silva, and all my wins were very convincing.
“I don’t pick fights. There are people who say ‘If they give me this guy, I would rather be fired’! I was even talking about it with Dana White. How can anybody choose their fight? Obviously some managers force things for their athletes go up in the career but I want to make a fight that interests the public. I already am in the end of my career, so I want to do one more fight and go for the belt,” he said.
“Joe Rogan spoke with me that it makes all sense, unless Hector Lombard wins very well over Tim Boetsch. And Lorenzo Fertitta told me that I would dispute the title if I had beat Wanderlei.”
“I don’t know how long I will stay in this division. I wanted to do more two or three fights. If my body will no longer permit this big weight cutting, I will go up (to 205-lbs). I am not afraid of Jon Jones or somebody else... Its not for me to choose my opponents.”
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July 7, 2012 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Announced Bouts
The following fights have been confirmed by UFC.com, but not yet added to the Official Fight Card.
Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen
Bantamweight Championship bout: Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Urijah Faber
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs Forrest Griffin
Middleweight bout: Rich Franklin vs. Cung Le
Middleweight bout: Michael Bisping vs. Tim Boetsch
Welterweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Ivan Menjivar
Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Fabrício Camões
Middleweight bout: Constantinos Philippou vs. Riki Fukuda
Lightweight bout: Gleison Tibau vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov
DIDNT KNO MY NIGGA CUNG LE WAS FIGHTING HOPEFULLY HE STARTS HIS UFC WINNING STREAK WIT FRANKLIn
AND IM AGO FOR TITO SINCE EVERYONE HATES HiM
Big Smokes posted an out of date fight card. This is the official lineup:
MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
Champ Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title)
Forrest Griffin vs. Tito Ortiz
Patrick Cote vs. Cung Le
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Demian Maia
Chad Mendes vs. Cody McKenzie
Mike Easton vs. Ivan Menjivar
PRELIMINARY CARD (FX)
Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Gleison Tibau
Fabricio Camoes vs. Melvin Guillard
Riki Fukuda vs. Constantinos Philippou
John Alessio vs. Shane Roller
PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)
Yoislandy Izquierdo vs. Rafaello Oliveira
rhonda rousey got noodz coming out next week so im posting this to remind myself
^ gonna be a good one,
And Tito/Forrest should be good too.
cheap shot
what yall predictions on the guillard fight?
question who would yall say is the most well round fighter
well-rounded?
Junior Dos Santos.
I don't see anyone coming even close to beating him right now, and potentially could be the same caliber fighter as Anderson Silva is. Even when Overeem was set to face him, I think Dos Santos had a solid chance of beating him, and still may have an opportunity this coming DEC.
The guy has fantastic standup, great takedown defense, he trains out of Blackhouse with the Nogueira's so you know he must have at least somewhat of a solid BJJ game, and I'm not sure about his wrestling, but I think if tested he could represent well.
SILVA IS FURIOUS HES GONNA MURDER SONNEN AND HIM AND JON JONES WOULD MURDER DOS SANTOs
^ They're in different weight classes, so that'd never happen. Jon Jones doesn't have the KO ability Cigano has, and I think JOnes would be scared to go toe-to-toe with him if it ever happened. Jones would only have the advantage if he used his distance
do chinks ever win fights in the ufc?
THE BEST STRIKEFORCE CHINK CUNG LE FIGHTS TONITE
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BUT SO FAR HES 0-1 IN THE UFc
HOPEFULLY HE GETS HIS FIRST WIN TONITE
HIS FIGHTS ARE NEVER BORING CAUSE HE REFUSES TO GET ON THE GROUND
DUDE IS ILL WIT KICKS, AND ILL BOXER BUT KINDA SMALL
HE DOES MOVIE TYPE KICKS,SPINNING BACK KICKS,ETC., SOMEPOST THE LINK FOR THE FIGHT
CHAT FOR THE UFC http://theheatnation.com/chat/
lol @ heat's 1997 chat room
Lol WE HAD BETTER WHERE U CAN POST PIX BUT THE CHAT OWNERS A FAG
Anderson Silva is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Fuck people who say it's Jon Jones, Fuck people who say it's GSP, fuck people who say it's Frankie Edgar, Urijah Faber, whoever, whatever, Anderson Silva just got his 16th straight win, his 10th title defense, this dude is fucking unreal......
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Yea, I used to be a doubter of Anderson, but I Believe the hype now....
wtf you talking about? Cain will probably beat him in the rematch. the lucky guy landed the first punch and won the fight, period. there was no skill involvedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Michaelz
Worst division in the sport. He could be the "best pound-for-pound fighter in the world", it's not his fault it's the worst, but GSP's resume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Silva's. Not to mention Jones has already beaten better quality opponents in his last few fights than Silva has ever faced in his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Michaelz
"He was Lucky he landed the first punch"...........are you seriously going to use that as a valid statement?......that's the dumbest comment I've ever seen; "no skill involved?" Really......because the dude looked pretty good on the serving end of an ass-whooping Cain has never experienced before.......there's no such thing as "luck" in this sport, everyone has a punchers chance. I mean Chuck Liddell was considered unbeatable for half-a-decade, and then he got knocked the fuck out 3 times consecutively by Shogun, Rashad Evans, and Rich Franklin; but I guess they were all lucky right? You must be a Cain fanboy.........and though I like and respect Cain, the same result will happen again in their rematch, I GUARANTEE it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by theheavens
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LMAO! worst division in the sport?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by OlympiQ
Lets look at the list of active UFC Middleweights:
Anderson Silva
Chael Sonnen
Vitor Belfort
Wanderlei Silva
Chris Leben
Rich Franklin (though a 205er,he said he may return to the weight class)
Yushin Okami
Brian Stann
Ed Herman
Patrick Cote
Mark Munoz
Rousmir Palhares
Cung Le
Court McGee
Jake Shields
Chris Weidman
Constantinos Phillopou
etc etc
And that's not naming the rest. GSP resume over Andersons?!?!?!? I see......lets look at this:
GSP resume: (24 fights) 22 wins 2 losses
8 wins by KO
5 by submission
9 by decision
currently on a 9 fight win streak, and has had 6 title defenses against:
Jon Fitch
BJ Penn
Thiago Alves
Dan Hardy
Josh Koschek
Jake Shields
also holds notable wins over Matt Hughes (2X), Matt Serra, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg, Karo Parysian and BJ Penn (in a none title fight)
NOW
Anderson Silva's resume: (36 fights) 32 wins 4 losses
19 by KO
6 by submission
7 by decision
currently on a 16 fight win streak, and 10 straight title defenses against:
Travis Luter (though turned into a non-title fight after Luter missed weight)
Nate Marquardt
Rich Franklin
Dan Henderson
Patrick Cote
Thales Leites
Demian Maia
Chael Sonnen (2x)
Vitor Belfort
Yushin Okami
And holds notable wins over: Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin (in his first tile shot), Chris Leben, Jeremy Horn, Carlos Newton
GSP has fought better quality opponents?
- Dan Hardy is not even a top 10 fighter, nor should he have deserved that title shot
- Koschek is a one dimensional, cheap piece of trash who hasn't done anything significant in the sport other than be apart of the first season of TUF, and become a coach in it.
- Jon Fitch is the king of not finishing fights, or at least comes second to GSP himself
- Thiago Alves though can be impressive, is not anywhere close to title contention, and was humiliated by GSP looking like an amateur
- Jake Shields, aka "Pillow Fists" is a boring sack of crap, who's over-hyped skill and reputation got him an undeserving title shot, and made GSP's face look like it hit a brick wall when Shields ins known to have weak punches, and standup technique
The only quality opponent GSP has fought who ever came close to a title shot is BJ Penn plain and simple.
Whether you're an Anderson hater, or just a really big GSP fanboy doesn't avoid the fact that GSP doesn't finish fights, is boring as shit to watch, and has a reputation for greasing as well as being a lay-and-pray wrestler who's more interested in KEEPIGN the belt, rather then DEFENDING it.
At least you know what to expect in an Anderson fight, usually a huge TKO of sorts, but I guess you can say the same about GSP knowing it's going to go to a 5 round snore fest.
Am I talking to casual fans here or what? Can someone make a valid remark that makes sense please, so a relevant argument or discussion can be made?
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Silva = most overrated figther in the UFC
UFC in general bores me. too many shitty rules, no stomps? no knees to the head on the ground?
Pride FC was the pinnicle of MMA, especially the Bushido tourneys.
Silva is not overrated
silva dominates, i cant recall seeing dude with a black eye or bloody lip even when chael dominated him ffor 4 1/2 rounds
Arguably. You have to be one retarded MW fanboy fag to even argue it not being one the weakest division though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Michaelz
I know the rosters and not impressed.Quote:
Lets look at the list of active UFC Middleweights:
Anderson Silva
Chael Sonnen
Vitor Belfort
Wanderlei Silva
Chris Leben
Rich Franklin (though a 205er,he said he may return to the weight class)
Yushin Okami
Brian Stann
Ed Herman
Patrick Cote
Mark Munoz
Rousmir Palhares
Cung Le
Court McGee
Jake Shields
Chris Weidman
Constantinos Phillopou
etc etc
In any case, all that I will add is that Silva suffers from not having a huge victory over another legend in his prime.
Fedor beat Nog a couple of times and CC once. Both those guys were generally considered the #2 HW at the time and absolutely fearedin the division.
GSP had to overcome a dominant champ in Hughes to get the belt.
Silva had to beat Franklin but that isn't the same. Rich is a nice guy and a good fighter but MW reallydid suck when he was champ. Silva also beat Hendo (looks better now that he has had a career resurgence but Hendo hasn't been great at 185 in a while) and Vitor (nobody questions his talent but he hasn't been considered dominant since the UFC allowed guys to wear shoes in the cage).
Not Silva's fault of course. But that lack of a true rival to overcome probably leads some people to view the division as weak (but is undoubtedly improving)
Defiantly a lot of down playing in your post.Quote:
And that's not naming the rest. GSP resume over Andersons?!?!?!? I see......lets look at this:
GSP resume: (24 fights) 22 wins 2 losses
8 wins by KO
5 by submission
9 by decision
currently on a 9 fight win streak, and has had 6 title defenses against:
Jon Fitch
BJ Penn
Thiago Alves
Dan Hardy
Josh Koschek
Jake Shields
also holds notable wins over Matt Hughes (2X), Matt Serra, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg, Karo Parysian and BJ Penn (in a none title fight)
NOW
Anderson Silva's resume: (36 fights) 32 wins 4 losses
19 by KO
6 by submission
7 by decision
currently on a 16 fight win streak, and 10 straight title defenses against:
Travis Luter (though turned into a non-title fight after Luter missed weight)
Nate Marquardt
Rich Franklin
Dan Henderson
Patrick Cote
Thales Leites
Demian Maia
Chael Sonnen (2x)
Vitor Belfort
Yushin Okami
And holds notable wins over: Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin (in his first tile shot), Chris Leben, Jeremy Horn, Carlos Newton
GSP has fought better quality opponents?
- Dan Hardy is not even a top 10 fighter, nor should he have deserved that title shot
- Koschek is a one dimensional, cheap piece of trash who hasn't done anything significant in the sport other than be apart of the first season of TUF, and become a coach in it.
- Jon Fitch is the king of not finishing fights, or at least comes second to GSP himself
- Thiago Alves though can be impressive, is not anywhere close to title contention, and was humiliated by GSP looking like an amateur
- Jake Shields, aka "Pillow Fists" is a boring sack of crap, who's over-hyped skill and reputation got him an undeserving title shot, and made GSP's face look like it hit a brick wall when Shields ins known to have weak punches, and standup technique
The only quality opponent GSP has fought who ever came close to a title shot is BJ Penn plain and simple.
GSP dethroning Matt Hughes > Anderson Silva's MMA career. GSP dethroned MMA's pound for pound king. He also defeated several true contenders in Fitch, Alves and Sherk (at the time). Hell, even BJ Penn is a more impressive win than anyone Silva has beaten.
How bout neither? And who gives a fuck how he fights? He delivers nonetheless you fucking hypocrite, you're clearly showing GSP hate and Silva dickriding all in this post.Quote:
Whether you're an Anderson hater, or just a really big GSP fanboy doesn't avoid the fact that GSP doesn't finish fights, is boring as shit to watch, and has a reputation for greasing as well as being a lay-and-pray wrestler who's more interested in KEEPIGN the belt, rather then DEFENDING it. At least you know what to expect in an Anderson fight, usually a huge TKO of sorts, but I guess you can say the same about GSP knowing it's going to go to a 5 round snore fest.
And I feel the same about the post below. You're making the rest of the Silva dickriders look bad.
Am I talking to casual fans here or what? Can someone make a valid remark that makes sense please, so a relevant argument or discussion can be made?
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Silva is very overrated imo. But a great fighter nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by hectis
^ wow, your thread is overflowing with angry emotions, hahaha you mad bro?
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Chill, it's just the internet.
Your opinion is yours, but that doesn't mean you gotta get all on your man-period about it.
Thanks for the input
The middleweight division is by far not the worst, if anything the Lightheavyweight I'd consider the worst considering it's a shell of its former self.
Matt Hughes though regarded as one of the greats was never at a point considered best pound for pound; too much competition during the Frank Shamrock/Tito Ortiz/Randy Couture era to say that, not to mention the fighters from PRIDE like Fedor and Noguiera or Wanderlei.
And for the record, I don't hate GSP, I'm Canadian dude that's like saying we hate Gretzky......but as far as preference? I'd watch an ANderson Fight 10 out of 10 times, and it doesn't matter if a person "delivers" just like in the music business bro, it's not about how many records you sell, but the "quality" of your talent, and lying on a dude for 15-25min. doesn't define greatness; it's the highlight reel of a legacy you leave behind, which is why the Chuck Liddell's, Cro Cops, and the Wandi's will forever be remembered in a manner different from the HUghe's or the GSP's
Awww, are your feelings hurt, jordan? Stop being so damn sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Michaelz
.....How bout you reread your original reply to mines and tell me whether you didn't warrant that type of response. Talk about hypocrisy.
I never said it was "by far" the weakest division. In fact, I even used the word "Arguably". There's no denying MW being one of the weaker divisions.Quote:
The middleweight division is by far not the worst, if anything the Lightheavyweight I'd consider the worst considering it's a shell of its former self.
What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Name a opponent Silva has defeated more impressive than GSP dethroning Matt Hughes.Quote:
Matt Hughes though regarded as one of the greats was never at a point considered best pound for pound; too much competition during the Frank Shamrock/Tito Ortiz/Randy Couture era to say that, not to mention the fighters from PRIDE like Fedor and Noguiera or Wanderlei.
I believe that's my entire point. GSP has more "quality" wins than Silva.Quote:
And for the record, I don't hate GSP, I'm Canadian dude that's like saying we hate Gretzky......but as far as preference? I'd watch an ANderson Fight 10 out of 10 times, and it doesn't matter if a person "delivers" just like in the music business bro, it's not about how many records you sell, but the "quality" of your talent, and lying on a dude for 15-25min. doesn't define greatness; it's the highlight reel of a legacy you leave behind, which is why the Chuck Liddell's, Cro Cops, and the Wandi's will forever be remembered in a
manner different from the HUghe's or the GSP's
Level of competition matters. He's had a good MW run but that's a weak division. Some of his opponents did very little to deserve a top 10 status and get a title shot.
-Travis Lutter: He was 9-3, and had 0 top ten wins.
-Nate Marquardt: Had one fight in 2007 to earn his shot against Silva by beating Dean Lister.
-Patrick Cote: With a record of 13-5. He was in a 5 fight win streak, although he didn't beat anybody in the top 10. He earned his shot by beating Almeida who had 2 fights in 4 years.
-Thales Leites: Got his shot by beating Marquardt by point deduction.
-Demian Maia: Earned his shot by getting KOed by Marquardt and then beating Jim Miller
-Vitor Belfort: Earned his shot without fighting at MW. Hasn't had a top 10 win in 7 years.
Thisis not meant to discredit or anything, but just to have an objective view. Jones' 3 title defenses have been arguably more impressive than all of Anderson's due to the level of competition he faced.