Yeah man, throw fuel on the fire :s
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Yeah man, throw fuel on the fire :s
as i understand genetic science, refining albino genetics through eugenics will not produce genetic differences in sufficient quantities to explain current genetic disparities, only much longer term environmental influence can explain it. this was explained to me by a 5%er who no longer believes in the literal truth of the yacub story as a result of his studying genetics in school. he told me that he now saw it as an allegory. i haven't knowledged the 120 myself, so i'm coming from a place of ignorance and curiosity. i mean no disrespect to you or the nge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
Nobody said anything about refining albino genetics through eugenics.Quote:
Originally Posted by memoryman
There's more to it than a simpe germ (gene).
The environemnt explanation isn't accurate.
If he "believed" in the Yacub story then he wasn't no 5%. The story is true, however not everything should be taken literal, as he told you.
i don't take your question as disrespect, you have been very respectful.
telling people about yacub and the things he did without the proper foundation is pointless. plus, i don't really talk about "lessons" to tough especially over the net for there is a responsibility that comes with it.
Please don't take my answer as not wanting to tell you, I know there's a proper way of doing it, and you don't know what you need to know to get the whole yacub thing.
word. i won't keep pestering you. i actually find what i know about nge to be powerful metaphysically and philosophically. it's very similar in spirit to my preferred school of thought which is thelema. peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
-edit: i realize i shouldn't have used the word "believe." that was a careless mistake.
Nobody entices you to have a family whilst also being to poor to feed them. And if you have disabled/elderly/incapacitated family members who you need to work to support, then that's the hand of fate. It is 'impossible' in a sense to leave the job because you need the money, but there is also nothing stopping you doing an evening course or correspondence course and getting a diploma to facilitate you getting a better job, or even starting your own business with a loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMESH
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Originally Posted by Black Man
when somebody says 'job', they could be talking as you are about, simply about a task that needs performing, or you could be talking in the sense that i was using it, i.e, employment within a business or corporation, governed by work laws, salaried, possibly contractual, etc.
You overlooked this in your attempt to negate my statement.
job1 /dʒɒb/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[job] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, jobbed, job·bing, adjective
–noun
1. *************************a piece of work, esp. a specific task done as part of the routine of one's occupation or for an agreed price************************: She gave him the job of mowing the lawn.
2. a post of employment; full-time or part-time position: She was seeking a job as an editor.
3. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!anything a person is expected or obliged to do; duty; responsibility: It is your job to be on time.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. an affair, matter, occurrence, or state of affairs: to make the best of a bad job.
5. the material, project, assignment, etc., being worked upon: The housing project was a long and costly job.
6. the process or requirements, details, etc., of working: It was a tedious job.
7. the execution or performance of a task: She did a good job.
8. Slang. a theft or similar criminal action: The police caught the gang that pulled that bank job.
9. a public or official act or decision carried through for the sake of improper private gain.
10. Slang. an example of a specific or distinctive type: That little six-cylinder job was the best car I ever owned.
11. Computers. a unit of work for a computer, generally comprising an application program or group of related programs and the data, linkages, and instructions to the operating system needed for running the programs.
they had a job within a functioning business. nothing has been overlooked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Cumstain
You're quite observent. That's good.Quote:
Originally Posted by memoryman
What you want to know is something that takes time to learn, is personal, and comes with responsibility. The best way to learn about what you desire is to do it in person. It takes more than reading words to really grasp what's being taught. This is a living science that's being taught, not rites and rituals and the purpose of knowing is so that you can eventually apply and understand. Knowledge, wisdom, and understanding.
Peace.
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Originally Posted by Black Man
when i say a job is not slavery, i am talking about employment as we know it in a modern day democracy. I know that working for McD's might be pretty much slavery, but at least you can progress from McD's; go on to management, go on to work in catering at a more prestigious establishment etc.
I'm sorry for calling those jobs i mentioned slavery jobs. What i meant to say was that those jobs are hard and i don't like doing hard labor. Those jobs may pay good but the work is too hard. I've had several factory and warehouse jobs so i know from experience because the jobs i had were through a temp agency and the salaries i got were shitty especially since the work is hard. I don't like how temp agencies take advantage of employees by paying them a shitty salary for doing hard work.
Black Man does have a point about black slaves were never paid for the hard work they did which was forced on them by their racist white slave master and that's not right. I also agree with Black Man that white people started racism because i believe before blacks were forced to be slaves that racism didn't exist.
I agree with BOT when he asked Black Man what changes has he seen in the ghetto because i haven't seen any. I don't live in the ghetto but i don't have to live in the ghetto to know that the same shit is going on everyday like prostitution, black men killing each other, black men selling drugs.
Black Man, ignorant black youth are following what other ignorant black kids are doing so they can be cool and accepted and they're definitely trying to be like the ignorant rappers. We can argue about this all day but if you don't think that there's a problem with ignorant blacks, then you're blind. The bottom line is that ignorant blacks will never change and that's a problem.
Yeah it's a shame that some men have to go to strip clubs and pay for escorts to get some sex from women. Women make me sick because so many of them are so damn materialistic and got attitude problems. That's why some men don't like approaching women because of their funky ass ways and personality. Too many women are saddity and stuck up. That's why i keep my distance and ya'll can laugh at me all you want for not having a girlfriend because i'd rather be by myself than deal with these stuck up, shitty attitude, materialistic women. Men probably wouldn't have to pay for sex if women weren't so stuck up and materialistic. That's why men and women relationships don't work out often because women want too damn much and they demand too much from men. All men basically want from women is sex and companionship. Men don't ask women to buy them things all the time so why do women expect men to always buy them shit and demand so much?
The egyptians enslaved Jews and forced them to build pyramids. A long time before American slavery. So at least we now know white people did not start slavery right?Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
Unless any of you are geneticists, you are in no position to speak on eugenics. One biology course in college does not qualify you, nor does biased 5% doctrine. Its like a Christian preaching that the world is only 6,000 or so years old.
This is all religious fanaticism anyway. The yacub folklore and such. ITs like fairy tales. The proof is in the real science. And any theory can be proven wrong if only the slightest detail is out of place.
Alright i'm sorry for saying white people started racism. I didn't do my homework and read my history books to know that egyptians enslaved jews. It's wrong for any race of people to force another race of people to be slaves. People are fucked up.
I've been reading some books lately about the current state of the black community and some of the books i've read have quoted Bill Cosby's statements lately about the black community and the ignorant black youth. I give him much props and respect for what he said because somebody should've said it a long time ago. I wish these black politicians had the balls to say what Bill said. I agree with everything he said. Fuck the people who wanna diss Bill because of what he said. The people who are mad at what he said are the ones who he's talking about because they don't wanna hear the truth about themselves. I've been a fan of Bill's for a long time. I was a fan of The Cosby Show and i liked Fat Albert. I've even seen some of his movies like Ghost Dad, A Piece Of The Action, Let's Do It Again. I think the reason why Bill has said what he said lately is because he's concerned about the black community and he knows that the black youth are the future so he wants to see them succeed.
I would have totally agreed with what he said. If he had said the youth in our country. I mean, do u really think it's just black youth. The youth grow more ignorant everyday. I mean why do u think the youth don't love tha Wu? Because they have 2 think about the lyrics they hear. They don't want 2 think, and they don't want 2 learn. They also grow more ruhless everyday. Shit I used 2 fight over. People are gettin murked 4 now. I wish there was something we could do, but I'm not sure there is. When people choose 2 be lazy ignorant simple minded wastes of human life, there's not much u can do.
so, what has he said?Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
The egyptians did not enslave jews, nor did the egyptians build pyramids. That statement alone disqualifies your input on the subject for you do not know.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
They believe in the 10% on face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
The people on the continent of what is now called Africa, did not "force" anybody into slavery, nor did they actually have slaves. Endentured servents would be the most correct term to use to describe the agreed upon condition, and the servitude did not last a life time, nor was it inhumane.
I remember some stuff Bill said like why do black parents name their kids Shaniqua, Taliqua, Muhammad? LOL. He also said all of them are in jail LOL. Then he said why do black parents cry and get upset when their kids get locked up for committing a crime? Bill said where were you when he was 2 years old, 10 years old, 15 years old? He said black kids get outta school at 2:30 pm 5 days a week and they're walking down the street cursing, laughing and using slang words, wearing baggy clothes, having kids and they're going nowhere in life hahahahahahahahahahaha. He said he doesn't understand why black youth listen to ignorant rappers and he said black men need to stop beating on black women because they can't get a job and they wanna take their frustration out on their women. If they do get a job, it's paying minimum wage and they don't wanna work for a low salary. Bill said if black men would've stayed in school and gotten a education, they wouldn't have to settle for a minimum wage job or selling drugs. Bill also said that blacks who live in the ghetto need to get out the ghetto and move to a better neighborhood. He said a black person's plan who lives in the ghetto should be to get out the ghetto and not stay there forever LOL.
Ya'll remember hearing about that black woman and her family in the ghetto that got killed awhile back in Baltimore? Her house got burned up and she died with her kids in the house. Her husband jumped outta the 2nd story window but he later died because his burns were too severe. The reason this happened is because this woman told the police about some black guys that were drug dealers in her neighborhood. The first time she told, her house got spray painted with some hateful words. When she saw the words spray painted on her wall, she was wiping the spray paint off and the black boy who did it saw what she was doing and he beat her up real bad. My heart and sympathy goes out to this woman and her family. I wish she could've moved outta that bad neighborhood to a nicer neighborhood. I wonder if she was working. If she was working, maybe she couldn't afford to move. I wonder if her husband was working. If they were working, they should've saved their money to move to a nicer safer neighborhood. I think the guys who burned her house down were arrested. Do ya'll know what year this happened? See this is the reason why good people who live in bad neighborhoods are afraid to tell on drug dealers because if they tell the police, they could die. You really can't trust the police because some of them are crooked and the drug dealers pay some cops to keep them off their backs.
I've never understood why nice houses, condos, and nice apartments get built in bad neighborhoods. Why would people wanna live in a bad neighborhood just because they see a nice apartment or a nice house? That makes no sense to me. I've seen a lot of nice houses getting built in the ghetto in Cleveland and people are moving in these places. I just shake my head. I'm sure Cleveland isn't the only city this is happening.
I don't mean 2 sound heartless, but, She was a snitch! That's what happens 2 snitches. To tell you the truth, she put her whole family in danger by singin her fuckin ass off like fuckin bird. It's awful that people had to die. Especially innocent children. STOP SNITCHIN!!!!!!!! (KILL THA SNITCH NOT THE CHILDREN) Hopefully people will continue 2 be afraid 2 snitch! Nobody likes a fuckin rat!
its called gentrification and its a fucked up process. The long-term effects of it are damaging to the current residents of the neighborhood.
Nicer houses and apartments will raise the property value of the land the old houses that surround them, in turn raising the tax levels and usually the rent because really the owners of the property want you to move out so that they can sale off the lot to commercial developers for WAAAAY more than what they paid for it in the first place.
You're ignorant. So what your telling me is that it's not ok for good people who live in bad neighborhoods to tell on drug dealers? Get the fuck outta here. Drug dealers need to be snitched on. It's unfortunate that people are scared to tell on drug dealers because they'll be afraid for their life because the police can't protect them 24/7.
^man, fuck the war on drugs!!! You know the federal goverment is the biggest pusher of 'em all or no? You had that other thread about hard labor, well what do you think happens to a drug dealer after he's locked up?? pumping out license plates & shit. Give a person a real education and a real chance at success and you wouldn't see so many dealers out there. But bottom line is this is a capitalist society that's based on supply and demand. As long as the demand is there there's gonna be suppliers.
parts of baltimore are real fucked up. Murder and drug rates are in the top 5 every year.
youve listened to too much rapQuote:
I don't mean 2 sound heartless, but, She was a snitch! That's what happens 2 snitches. To tell you the truth, she put her whole family in danger by singin her fuckin ass off like fuckin bird. It's awful that people had to die. Especially innocent children. STOP SNITCHIN!!!!!!!! (KILL THA SNITCH NOT THE CHILDREN) Hopefully people will continue 2 be afraid 2 snitch! Nobody likes a fuckin rat!
A snitch is someone looking out for thier own interest. this woman was looking out for her childrens and neighborhoods.
Bad neighborhoods wouldnt look like shit if the ppl who lived in the cared about anything other than thier beer and weed. Oh and if they werent so fucking lazy.
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Originally Posted by ERICHWV
First of all, have you ever lived in a neighbourhood with drugs being sold and shootings? Well I have. If u know anything about living in that type of bad neighbourhood and u have intelligence, u would not speak like this.
And maestro is right, u must listen to too much rap.
A snitch is not someone who calls the cops on a drug dealer. A snitch is one involved in criminal activitie, gets caught, and tells on another criminal to get a reduced sentance.
Kids nowadays refer to snitching as just talking to the cops which is a lie.
Although the woman probably was not too smart. If your gonna call the cops on someone, make sure the risk doesn't overweigh the gain.
Yes that's exactly what I am tellin you! Fuckin snitches! Find a major drug dealer and snitch him out. Then maybe youll see how "ok" it is. Mind your own business and u don't get hurt. I've done time over snitches and let me tell u, they get what they get. I don't get my point of veiw on this matter from music. I get it from my experiences in life. I know people who turned out 2 be snitches and got shot. They got what they had comin 2 em! (mind your own business folks) STOP SNITCHIN!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
What you say has its rights and wrongs. Using your logic than, Europe had the same format of 'indentured servant' and the whole issue of 'slavery' and 'racism' that you refer to only resulted after the slave trade began in the Western hemisphere...but that is faulty because the slave trade did not just go to the Americas...it went East too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
about 6 years ago it looked like i was going to go to jail for a very long time & my wife who was my girlfriend at the time decided she wanted to have a baby so that she could still have somthing of me. my son never asked to be born & if i had gone to jail he would of had a big disadvantage & would effect the outcome of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Cumstain
all these things you say is easy to say & it's right but in life it's much harder than that, when a man is kicked down not all men have the strength to get up
You should stop posting because your ignorant.
True that. There's a lot of lazy ignorant blacks in bad neighborhoods. I always see a lot of trash on the street in bad neighborhoods. I don't see that in nice neighborhoods.
its not all blacks ...its anybody...ive seen a share of black N white...n the same place mostly...
Firstly i aint from no hardcore hood, so if that to you discredits my input then wateva, but to us, snitchin is when u be informing on sum1 because ure greedy, u hatin on them/when its more productive to sort it out ureself. What this woman done wasn't snitchin, she's tryin to make her area a betta place for her kids, maybe in vain but she tried at least, unlike u hu just glorify this shit. And if u on a wu fan, u should noe that RZA himself disagrees wit that glorification.Quote:
Originally Posted by ERICHWV
So in conclusion, shut up u funky ass bitch, and i hope sum1 from the ghetto sews up ure ass cheeks and then see how u cant 'snitch'