Master Plan! idea of a geniuz!
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Master Plan! idea of a geniuz!
So.....Why not give every single Killah Bee the globe over a chance to own this gem....RZA writes a third book......Calls it i don't know...lets say "The formula for the cure". This book contains scripture and philosophies and ciphers drawn from Wu-Tangs many lines of teachings. Intertwined with verse and lyrics from the immense Wu-Tang Clan/Affiliates back catalouge....Causing those reading it to expand both their KNOWLEDGE and traverse through Back catalouge.......Only upon completing these cyphers scriptures and verse will the student unlock the whereabouts of this JEWEL....Now this book sells for like...say $30-$35.....Now if this book sold as many copies as ENTER THE 36 CHAMBERS......YOU DO THE MATH......YES MORE THAN ANY ONE MAN OR ONE INTERNATIONAL COMPANY WOULD OFFER.....Just something for THE ABBOT TO CHEW OVER....MENTALLY
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Originally Posted by Wutanguniversity
NAS.......HYDRO DROPS.....Just something for YOU TO CHEW OVER....MENTALLY
Just messing with you, actually I think it's a pretty dope idea. But didn't Jay-Z use this concept already?
hype is near flat-lined for this project.....
good, thats what we want it to be.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by cilvaringz
what you need hype for if only 1 person is going to buy it and you got six lined up.
To get the price above 50bucks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Well if you were trying to do a museum tour then you would want some hype. I remember this being touted as a piece of art. Now it's seems like fuck part A, let's just sell to the highest bidder now.
Not that I have a problem with that but I hate the hypocrisy behind the whole thing. Be honest about your intentions.
Then Why are you keeping involved in this thread then if only 6 people are interested in buying it which most certainly are not from this forum and you don't want hype?
I'm pretty sure the museum part has completely flopped. Not profitable enough for the investors. It's gonna be interesting to see how much this thing sells for. I think it's a great idea to make money! Lets just hope the buyer wants to share so I can finally hear this fucking thing!
Too many buyers interested in buying it for commercial purposes or hype alone. RZA and I are going to make sure that this thing sticks to the museum touring part alone, or nothing at all. And nothing's flopped, we have lots of galleries and museums interested, art funds lining up, etc. But if you know a bit about that world, you'll know that exhibitions are sometimes planned years in advance, especially with museums. Like I said, a new announcement will be made soon. $50, lol
If the fans never get a chance to "own" this album, I don't give a fuck anymore about this project. I'm not going to a damn museum to listen to Wu-Tang Clan and then walk home with nothing except for the experience
Is that how you would approach going to see anything in a museum for that matter? cause that's sad lol
Personally I just don't want to travel anywhere to hear an album. I never have before, why start now? Thats going backwards to a time when there wasn't mass media.
I am not to familiar with artistic philosophy. But my understanding is, when an artist want's to make an artistic statement, don't they do it for the love of there craft as opposed to making money. ?????
yeah in the 18th century and b4 being a writer wouldn't even be enough to provide for urself. youd need a second job and the combined money from both jobs wasny usually that much. imagine telling famous musicians that today lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by zooruka
Music DOES get the respect it deserves.
20 years after Wu-Tang's first record, people are still talking about it, and celebrating it, and writing articles about it, and people are (still) influenced by it, and they're constantly referred to as "legendary" and the album is constantly referred to as "classic." What more could you ask for?
Music also gets the commerce it deserves - today's top musicians are insanely rich, and even the mid-tier and lower tier ones make a living doing it. And while quality doesn't always equal sales, that's the case for every form of entertainment, from painting to movies to what have you.
So with that being the case, RZA and Cilvaringz come out with this album idea, talking about music being denigrated and disrespected and not being treated as art.
There's SOMETHING to that - people do download more albums than they buy. But at the same time, what are we supposed to do, buy albums blindly? It's only in the past few years that albums have been available to stream - that labels have ALLOWED albums to stream. I mean, I've bought albums blindly in the past, and been pissed off I wasted my money. Also there was plenty bootlegging before the Internet, just lower quality - old heads know what I'm talking about. The point is, nobody wants to buy albums blind. Music is not EXACTLY THE SAME as other art forms. It's it's own thing. You don't listen to music like you look at paintings.
You put a Wu-Tang album only in a museum to hear - an album that Wu's biggest fans have known about and been hyped about for years - obviously the fans are going to be pissed, you can't be surprised about that.
But why exactly are they pissed? Let's break it down:
If you put a Wu-Tang album only in a museum to hear - yes, people will go. But not because they want to. Because they don't have a choice.
We live in a age of consumer freedom now. Blame the Internet, especially post-YouTube. We pick when we want to watch media, and how we want to consume it. We pick how we want to consume television, and we pick how we want to consume music. And the industries have been changing to adapt to that, at a glacially slow pace.
That is the problem with this Wu-Tang album only in a museum thing - it's going backwards, and taking away choice and freedom from the consumer. The consumers - aka the fans - are being forced to listen to something in a particular way. And their excitement is turning into resent.
Cilva & RZA can wax poetic about the artistry of music all they want - and maybe they have a point. But no amount of talk is going to keep fans from being irritated they can't just buy this album for $10 or $20, when every other amazing album ever made is available to buy any time, for $10 or $20. Is this album more "artistic" than everything else?
I think it WILL be available for $10 or $20 for anyone to buy, in the end. It's just going to be a long wait, and a lot of fuckery, first.
After all i think this museum part should be done if you got 6 parties already and you know that some of them wont share this album then this museum tour will be the best exposure for the CD as a piece of art... I think nobody want to make this very rare album a quick sale.
No, but listening to Wu-Tang isn't comparable to seeing paintings by Dalí.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
"Know your audience".
Wait, so you will not sell to someone who may want to sell it for fans to listen to?
That sucks. Hopefully it makes it's way through Phoenix AZ then.. damn
Level headed and spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShortyCoffeeStain
lmfao @ people actually considering going to a museum to listen to this album
keep complaining/posting
let not brake it down. this has been addressed several times already.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShortyCoffeeStain
They dont care that the fans are pissed. It was expected.
And they are trying their best to make sure that "it never reaches your ipod"
But keep posting 5+ paragraph essays bro.
wu-tang doesnt have the same hardcore fanbase to sustain a museum tour anymore
if I, the biggest wu-tang stan I know personally, wouldnt travel to a museum to hear an album then pretty much nobody would
now if they want to personally tour and perform this album on stage I'd see it and get a more worthy experience out of it
We may never get to hear this album outside of a museum but, we do have access to all the classic albums this is trying to emulate.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/15/bone-t...album-auction/
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony has huge plans for the next few years -- TMZ has learned they plan to reunite, record new music, make a FAT stack of cash ... and then ride off to the Crossroads never to be heard from again.
The guys from Bone Thugs tell us all five original members will kick off a world tour, then get back in the studio to record final album. They plan to auction off ONE single copy of the album ... asking price -- at least $1 MILLION!
If this blueprint sounds familiar that's because Wu-Tang Clan is doing the same thing -- currently touring after laying down their album. RZA claims they got a $5 million bid in the auction for their record.
BTNH say their 20-country world tour will start in December -- so you've got some time to save up for the album auction sometime in 2015.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/15/bone-t...#ixzz37ZuV9PBA
Hip-Hop is dead.
No, I enjoy going to museums to look at paintings, pictures, sculptures etc. And I would probably enjoy listening to a song as well, and maybe listen to it carefully a few times before moving on. But you made a double Wu-Tang Clan album, for the fans, you said. I'm not going to sit in a museum for 2 hours and listen to this album and then walk home. It doesn't make any sense to me. I just wouldn't enjoy doing it. I respect that you're trying to do something different, but if this ain't for the fans anymore, why should we care?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Thanks Obama.
The face of Cher looks like a painting to me and I always thought it belonged in a museum.
Clone thugz n harmony
its the republicans fault
These guys are bums, every few years krayzie or layzie drops out, none of them like each other, they haven't made a good album in 17 years and then they prove that they really hate doing music together by doing this shit. 'Lets do a final tour and one album and split with the cash cos we never wanted to be doing this shit at 40'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumm Ra
One tour worth of money and a mil split 5 ways ain't shit though. In a few years they'll be back, broke as fuck with a new terrible album.
seems hugely disrespectful to do this so soon behind Wu when Wu didn't even finish the deal yet
if they thought it was hard to defend the idea from being a gimmick before...BTNH pretty much fucked that up for em
you fuck homo thugz n harmony..thats shit is WAAAACK. at least wait for the wu one to drop....
Bone Thugs one copy or cilvarings one copy....hmmmm clear choice here
This will be the gimmick where rappers from 20 years ago come out for one last pay cheque. Who's next?
Nah it's not. It's 2014, who cares about a new Bone Thugs or Wu Tang album 20 years later?Quote:
Originally Posted by CashRules
the republicans, they did this
Yes, buy the new souls of mischief album instead!Quote:
Originally Posted by ol dirty abbot