Cilvaringz, how do you feel about this?

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Originally Posted by biblebullet

Ringz, i agree with you i wont work 7 years for free. I would expect to get paid.
And Yes i have declined a promotion before, as that promotion although would mean more money, would also mean i have to be away from my family for months, so i declined the promotion to be with my family (the people) in my case.
So you see not everything is about money, yes i might jump as at chance but not to the detriment of what really matters most.

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You're not a dumb dude, but what you wrote is stupid because you obviously know that no decent human being would choose money over or at the expense of his family. You know very well what I meant.

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Originally Posted by Cilvaringz

Just a fan, a huge one, no need to use the word groupie unless it makes you feel better. But to answer your question, I am absolutely pleased with how all turned out and completely convinced it was the right move. Im guessing you think I might regret it because of all the hate and protest and screaming and Mef going off on me and Martin buying it etc. Believe you me, it has all added to the great story that this album became. Far more satisfying for me than a week of praise for the album on a forum. It has led to so much good shit I can't even phantom doing it any other way. Believe me, when you read the book and read all the crazy shit that happened behind the scenes, you'll understand it. You think it's crazy what played out in public? Guess again, you only saw 20% of it.

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That's cool, mate. I'm happy for you. I have no qualms with what you did. The only thymes I've got pissed off about it are when I thought you were lying.

It's just up to the individual really, and what they want. For me personally, like I said I would love to be in a position where I had an audience who wanted to hear my music. So I'd be all about trying to make something memorable for them. Honestly as much if not more for myself, than for them.

This whole thread was misunderstood. Probably cos I'm not your usual Wu fan. I've barely heard anything that came out of the Wu camp in the last 8 years. As with hip hop in general. I've never heard any of the Wuki stuff. Not a single track. If this album had come out I probably wouldn't have even known for at least a month after the fact, then forgotten to dl it for at least a few more weeks, and then listened to it maybe an absolute maximum of 10 thymes before I forgot about it.

That's no reflection of the quality of the music. Just where I'm at with hip hop these days.

There is absolutely not the slightest trace of bitterness from me in regards to being 'deprived' of hearing this album. The thread was about making money while basically erasing the existence of your work, as opposed to putting it out there to be recognised and take its place among the Wu-Tang discography.

But there's obviously a lot more to it than I allowed. I never even followed the whole story with this album. I heard about it in its very early stages when you were asking people for their dream line ups for tracks and stuff, and then I left off and didn't hear about it again until the Schreli thing. Then I haven't heard about it since. I don't keep up with these things at all, quite clearly.

Oh, I did hear about the whole museum and single copy thing somewhere in between too.

But yeah, cool to hear about all the other aspects of this. I guess I was making assumptions that it was all but forgotten and a total miss to begin with, while there was a lot more going on that I didn't know about. The Guiness Book of Records spot is pretty cool in itself, I must say.

Anyway, good discussion.

Fair game. Bong bizza bong doodle

Cilva, I know it's early, but can you give any insight on the new project you're working on?

No sorry, not for a few years

Haha, here we go again!

Thread over ^

Cilva, u should re-make ouatis, like do all the tracks again, and release it normally, just to make skreli look like an arse.

Contractually not allowed to, nor remix

i still don't believe this album exists.

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Originally Posted by Cilvaringz

Unless Martin pulls an absolutely crazy one, I can pretty much guarantee you wont hear OUATIS in your lifetime. And to add to that, even if you somehow would, it would always disappoint. Due to the craziness, expectations and imaginations have run so high, there would be no way to ever live up to them. So as long as it's a myth, it is intriguing and of interest. The day you hear it, whether amazing or average, it is all gone.

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haha, come on... you pretended like we would all hear it for years, so surely the expectations are your creation and fallacious as result.

anyway, as i said, there's flimsy proof this album even exists; always has been.

Why would anyone want to read a book about the making of an album that they're never going to hear? I would rather watch a movie about Bill Murray helping to steal the album, because at least that's obviously fictional. Making a book about this just seems like an egregious cash grab and an obvious attempt to both make money from superfans on top of the money that you already made selling the album. Just seems greedy to me.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Simon Hurt

Why would anyone want to read a book about the making of an album that they're never going to hear? I would rather watch a movie about Bill Murray helping to steal the album, because at least that's obviously fictional. Making a book about this just seems like an egregious cash grab and an obvious attempt to both make money from superfans on top of the money that you already made selling the album. Just seems greedy to me.

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I'm definitely interested in reading about it, working with the Wu members, ect. Post announcement plans, the release, ect.

Might even ask Ringz to sign the book for me. haha

I had my times of bitterness but it's just cool to see what Ringz has done. Thumbs up

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Originally Posted by Dr. Simon Hurt

Why would anyone want to read a book about the making of an album that they're never going to hear? I would rather watch a movie about Bill Murray helping to steal the album, because at least that's obviously fictional. Making a book about this just seems like an egregious cash grab and an obvious attempt to both make money from superfans on top of the money that you already made selling the album. Just seems greedy to me.

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So dont purchase when available. Noone will care.

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Originally Posted by steve

i still don't believe this album exists.

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So the 13 minutes Rolling Stone wrote about hearing at the MoMA was what? Oh yeah let me guess, we sold Martin an empty CD and told him to imagine the music. :) some of you man...