RZA Says More “Energy” Is Needed From Ghostface, Raekwon & GZA

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Originally Posted by jbconline

I still believe RZA's got the talent but he has a different way of how its supposed to sound with guitar and musically stuff or whatever.
Sometimes i wonder if RZA listens to his older shit the way he used to sound i think hes to focused creating new sound. Raekwon would work with him if he creates it the way RZA can.
Its like 8 D over you know finishing work and not be satisfied with the outcome

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Robert Diggs wants to be recognized as a great producer/master producer and as a musician as if he is the new Hendrix. He knows hip hop dudes respect him a lot but it is not enough. He wants his friends like U2 members, Bjork and many others respect him for his skills of creating his own sound. I think he was dope when he used samples and just did it with his instinct. Now he thinks too much and wants to satisfy too many persons. Really I don't give a fuck what Rae says or wants. I don't think OBCL2 is a classic just a good album. Robert Diggs is now in "another world" and his teammates can't understand that. He wants to go further, just don't want to go back to the old days. In our present day world Who cares about wu sound from the 90s ? Bronze produces dope beats but who buy his albums ? I understand Robert Diggs he wants to prove to the world he is still alive and still get it. But he is not innovative at all. 8 D sounds like a wu album with guitars, nothing new and nothing is really revolutionary on this shit. This album is good but boring. He changed the hip hop game with Enter the wu sound. Every album of the golden era brings something new. They are fucking amazing. Even The W brings something. But Iron Flag is fucking boring.

''In our present day world Who cares about wu sound from the 90s ?''
I think alot of fans and even Raekwon.
They want that Raw wu Tang production.
Thats what wutang is about not about the sound of nowadays like some pop music.
Do agree that iron flag and 8 diagrams are just good to have for the w collection.
and i think Raekwon is right about that guitar shit on that album that was dissapointing

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Originally Posted by jbconline

''In our present day world Who cares about wu sound from the 90s ?''
I think alot of fans and even Raekwon.
They want that Raw wu Tang production.
Thats what wutang is about not about the sound of nowadays like some pop music.
Do agree that iron flag and 8 diagrams are just good to have for the w collection.
and i think Raekwon is right about that guitar shit on that album that was dissapointing

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This Wu sound is over ! Even if Rza produced a new "enter the wu" with the same sound, it wouldn't sell well. I like Rock n roll and guitar shit, I have no problem with that. But I have problem with the lack of creativity. I like albums of the golden era because they were ill. Rza could produce ill beats. Beats like "ice water", "mr sandman", "4th chamber" (guitar shit), "Black Jesus", "Iron maiden", "Snakes", "Raw hide", "Rainy days", "Reunited", "Wu wear". These beats were unique and great. He produced gems nobody on earth could produce. His beats were strange and really came from the 4th dimension. Their beats were powerful and could energize the dead minds. His new beats are really lifeless he is no more the Rzarector. Robert Diggs lost it.

Why are people acting like The Heart Gently Weeps isn't the best song on a Wu-Tang album since Forever?

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Originally Posted by grt05

Why are people acting like The Heart Gently Weeps isn't the best song on a Wu-Tang album since Forever?

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Exactly. Cause Wu fans would deny it. People don't want good music from Wu, they want it to be raw and kungfu style, even if the beat would be shit and the rhymes wouldn't be on point. The Heart Gently Weeps is put together better than most Wu-Tang tracks to be honest. The song structure is beautiful.

How come The Roots fans ain't bitter. They're consistently dropping good albums and changing with each album. Change is not bad people.

8 Diagrams might be the last dope Wu album.

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Originally Posted by TheFunkyDrummer

People don't want wack music from Wu, they want it to be raw and kungfu style.

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8 Diagrams is the best Wu-Tang album

GUN WILL GO GUN WILL GOOOOOOOOOO

^^go to sleep

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Originally Posted by BigKing.nl

8 Diagrams is the best Wu-Tang album

GUN WILL GO GUN WILL GOOOOOOOOOO

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Make it 3rd, but a little overexaggeration doesn't hurt nobody. Repped.

Islord can save the clan.

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Originally Posted by grt05

Why are people acting like The Heart Gently Weeps isn't the best song on a Wu-Tang album since Forever?

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Because that isn't even close to being true.

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Originally Posted by TheFunkyDrummer

Exactly. Cause Wu fans would deny it. People don't want good music from Wu, they want it to be raw and kungfu style, even if the beat would be shit and the rhymes wouldn't be on point. The Heart Gently Weeps is put together better than most Wu-Tang tracks to be honest. The song structure is beautiful.

How come The Roots fans ain't bitter. They're consistently dropping good albums and changing with each album. Change is not bad people.

8 Diagrams might be the last dope Wu album.

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What's so great about the song's structure?
The problem with Rza, and other hip-hop artists, who try to branch out and incorporate other forms of music is that they always do it in the most boring way possible. They think that just the mere fact that they're using guitars is revolutionary.
Rza's sound changed a lot from 36 Chambers to Forever, then it changed further with the Bobby Digital sound. Change isn't the issue. Making tepid music is.

I don't like "The Heart Gently Weeps."

Changing "guitar" to "heart" is stupid. Erikah's hook is lame. And Raekwon sounds like so fucking bored. I can't believe they kept his verse.

Ghostface's verse is great, and Meth does his thing, but it's not as good as the 40 people who worked on it thought it was going to be.

It's not even a top 5 song on 8 Diagrams.

Rza is a fucking hip hop producer that's all. He should stop trying to be a dude he couldn't be. He never stop trying to produce great music but constantly fails. tell Rza Bono won't try to produce hip hop songs cuz he knows he can't. You know what I mean ? Dre or other motherfuckers produce hip hop that's all. They know their own limits. At the beginning he knew exactly what his soldiers needed so they gave their best. He can't reinvent the wheel. Wu generals come from the streets. If he wants to do other shit he must create a new group. "the heart gently weeps" sucks.

hiphop fans are the most conservative motherfuckers on the planet and they don't even know it.

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Originally Posted by The blackma

Rza is a fucking hip hop producer that's all. He should stop trying to be a dude he couldn't be. He never stop trying to produce great music but constantly fails. tell Rza Bono won't try to produce hip hop songs cuz he knows he can't. You know what I mean ? Dre or other motherfuckers produce hip hop that's all. They know their own limits. At the beginning he knew exactly what his soldiers needed so they gave their best. He can't reinvent the wheel. Wu generals come from the streets. If he wants to do other shit he must create a new group. "the heart gently weeps" sucks.

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