^^no, yall just are so blinded by this race war that forever continues in KTL, it has nothing to do with race, it's gender....females we're talkin about....theyre all the same.....genetics
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^^no, yall just are so blinded by this race war that forever continues in KTL, it has nothing to do with race, it's gender....females we're talkin about....theyre all the same.....genetics
That true to a certain extent. But, there are some unique differences inherent in the way most Black women behave. And it has a lot to do with their collective experience in this society versus their native culture as Blacks which is not the same as European culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by snapple
I remember learning about that in Cultural AnthropologyQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
this fucking thread is disrespectful, my girlfriend happens to be black and shes the best thing that happened to me in a while...wake up
I started this thread and it wasn't meant to disrespect black women in my life the majority of my girl friends have had either psychlogical or emotional problems and they happen to be black a lot of the times emotional trauma plays a part in how they are. All of this info wasn't know to me until after an emotional bond between me and these women was formed I saw flashes like the unablity to handle stressful situations or the inablity to be total truthful when confronted about this behavior the most popular reason was blamed on former relationships or issues from youth which I believe I was frustrated when I made this thread and sisnt mean to affend I just wanted other people's opinion on this. Maybe some could understand where I was coming from
Peace
:point: until she fucks u over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
no, again all of you are caught up in race, youre partially right. because beleive it or not, there is black people in europe!!!! and those people are different then lets say, a black person from a PJ in NYC....geography is what molds people, the way we are rasied, it's where you are raised, you take a whiteboy and raise him in the hood from birth and most likeley he will be embraced as a brother and dress like a hood and all that shit...race is just a copout for simpleminded thinkers sorry for ranting but this is KTL people here seem like that at least want to attempt a higher level of thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
European culture is foriegn to Black people. Blacks who live in Europe act European. It's the same way in Amerikkka. And that's the problem....Quote:
Originally Posted by snapple
Black people thinking they are the same as Europeans is what's holding Black people back.
Black women wanting to be like european women....smh. It's a damn shame. I have greater expectations for my people.
Why don't you just let people be people no matter what their background is.
im sorry but youre on some ann rann shit or whatever that authors name is, why would you want to limit people and control people like that? you're a very angry indiviidual at heart it seems....Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Black folks should be angry. And if they ain't angry, they need to get angry real quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by snapple
There's too many of us rotting away in the prisons of Amerikkka and in the ghettos. We don't have the time to sit back and watch ourselves waste away.
The devil can only rule the Earth for so long, but now it's time for God to take his rightful place. I'm sick of this bullshit. Damn right I'm angry about it.
well dont let your emotions blind your logic...
And check it out now
Who is the cat eatin out on the town
And make the whole dining room turn they head round
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
He got the speakers in the trunk with the bass on crunk
Who be ridin up in the highrise elevator
Other tenants who be prayin they ain't the new neighbor
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
They try to play him like a chump cause he got what they want
He under thirty years old but already he's a pro
Designer trousers slung low ccause his pockets stay swoll'
Could afford to get up and be anywhere he go
V.I.P. at the club, backstage at the show
(Yes y'all) the best crib, the best clothes
Hottest whips on the road neck and wrists on froze (say word)
Checks with O's o-o-o-o-ohs
Straight all across the globe watch got three time-zones
Keep the digital phone up to his dome
Two assistants, two bank accounts, two homes
One problem; even with the O's on his check
The po-po stop him and show no respect
"Is there a problem officer?" Damn straight, it's called race
That motivate the jake (woo-woo) to give chase
Say they want you successful, but that ain't the case
You livin large, your skin is dark they flash a light in your face
Now, who is cat dining out on the town
Maitre'd wanna take a whole year to sit him down
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
He got the speakers in the trunk with the bass on crunk
Now, who is the cat at Armani buyin wears
With the tourists who be askin him, do you work here?
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
Nigga Nigga
Yo, the Abstract with the Mighty Mos Def
White folks got it muffled across beneath they breathe
"I didn't say it.."
But they'll say it out loud again
When they get with they close associates and friends
You know, sneak it in with they friends at the job
Happy hour at the bar while this song is in they car
And even if they've never said it, lips stay sealed
They actions reveal how their hearts really feel
Like, late night I'm on a first class flight
The only brother in sight the flight attendent catch fright
I sit down in my seat, 2C
She approach officially talkin about, "Excuse me"
Her lips curl up into a tight space
Cause she don't believe that I'm in the right place
Showed her my boarding pass, and then she sort of gasped
All embarrassed put an extra lime on my water glass
An hour later here she comes by walkin past
"I hate to be a pest but my son would love your autograph"
(Wowwww.. Mr. Nigga I love you, I have all your albums!..)
They stay on nigga patrol on american roads
And when you travel abroad they got world nigga law
Some folks get on a plane go as they please
But I go over seas and I get over-SEIZED
London Heathrow, me and my people
They think that illegal's a synonym for negro
Far away places, customs agents flagrant
They think the dark face is smuggle weight in they cases
Bags inspected, now we arrested
Attention directed to contents of our intestines
Urinalyis followed by X-rays
Interrogated and detained til damn near the next day
No evidence, no appology and no regard
Even for the big american rap star
For us especially, us most especially
A Mr Nigga VIP jail cell just for me
"If I knew you were coming I'd have baked a cake
Just got some shoe-polish, painted my face"
They say they want you successful, but then they make it stressful
You start keepin pace, they start changin up the tempo
Now, who is cat riding out on the town
State trooper wanna stop him in his ride, pat him down
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
He got the speakers in the trunk with the bass on crunk
Now, who is the cat with the hundred dollar bill
They gotta send it to the back to make sure the shit is real
Mr Nigga, Nigga Nigga
Nigga Nigga.. Nigga
You can laugh and criticize Michael Jackson if you wanna
Woody Allen, molested and married his step-daughter
Same press kickin dirt on Michael's name
Show Woody and Soon-Yi at the playoff game, holdin hands
Sit back and just bug, think about that
Would he get that type of dap if his name was Woody Black?
O.J. found innocent by a jury of his peers
And they been fuckin with that nigga for last five years
Is it fair, is it equal, is it just, is it right?
Do you do the same shit when the defendent face is white?
If white boys doin it, well, it's success
When I start doin, well, it's suspect
Don't hate me, my folks is poor, I just got money
America's five centuries deep in cotton money
You see a lot of brothers caked up, yo straight up
It's new, y'all livin off of slave traders paper
But I'm a live though, yo I'm a live though
I'm puttin up the big swing for my kids yo
Got my mom the fat water-front crib yo
I'm a get her them pretty bay windows
I'm a cop a nice home to provide in
A safe environment for seeds to reside in
A fresh whip for my whole family to ride in
And if I'm still Mr Nigga, I won't find it suprisin
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Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
your fukt up AQ. people act like people. blax act like blax. witez act like wites. stop bein so fukin racist all the fukin time. you have SUCH a chip on your shoulder im surprised you can still see you.
why????Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
answer me this
why?
thought youd know better spouting your 5% bollox all the time.....
when i said this is why i dont fuck with loud ignorant black bitches, i didnt mean they are all like that. I tlaking about the loud ignorant bitches who happen to be part of the black race.
*ahem* not mentioning any names.................................
Okay. How are black women and black men suppose to behave? People say that I talk white. People say that I'm trying to be white. No. I'm being an American just like everyone else is. The black people that say that to their own people are really ignorant and stupid, seriously. He/she will NEVER amount to anything in life. I see it when I go back to the hood. The women that I went to school with droped out of high school, they're on welfare, have at least two kids by two different men, they have a boyfriend that doesn't do anything except sell drugs, and other b.s. They think this is being black. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Now, I don't have a car. Does that make me a loser to my own people? To them, yes. Ignorance is SO heavly concentrated in African-Americans, serious. African-American men and women can't really stand each other because of ignorance. Look at the media and how they have destroy our image in the past years. Hurricane Kartina is a perfect example. They use kartina to increase the stereotypes and the negativity of African-Americans. People were just trying the survive down there.
We as African-Americans have to be mentally strong about ourselfs, and stop the hate that is going on.
Thank you.
What do you mean by that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
We should behave like mothers and fathers of civilization. Not like the captialist slaves that we have become. Deaf, dumb and blind to the reality of who our enmeies are and not knowing how to stand on our own. Sitting on the slavemasters doorsteps begging him for a crumb of a job and a crumb of an education.Quote:
Originally posted by Ironman
Okay. How are black women and black men suppose to behave?
Doesn't it ever occur to my people that we can rule ourselves? If we don't do it then we will just follow the devil deep into the pit of hell, and rightfully so.
It's simple. White women are not role models for Black women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper1134
We don't need to dress like them, look like them, or act like them. But, if you take all that away then what would the Black woman be left with?
That's why it's important for us to find out who we really are and teach this knowledge to ourselves. We can do a lot better than following up behind the white woman.
Well, these women you're talking about... they were born in Europe/America right... so they dress and look like 'Euromericans' ok. You want black women in the western world to dress like it's 130 fahrenheit? They're not living in Africa and technically, they're Europeans or Americans or even Australians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Who is to decide what black western woman should act, dress and look like? Not you, that's for certain.
lol....Yes, it will be me. I'm a black woman and I'm raising two black women. And with the proper knowledge the Black woman in the western world can come to her own understanding about her true self and her true culture. Some of us already have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper1134
Also, I didn't mention anything about Africa.....so, I don't know what your getting at there.
You can teach your own kids to dress, look and act like black people, African people, whatever people, but when you said 'we' you were refering to all black women. These people have been living in America and Europe for years and years. They can decide for theirselfs what they want to look like, that's not yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
I have a heard time underatanding your anger.
Yes, it is mines. They are my people. Of course I can't force them to let go of the devil's civilization. But, I won't abandon them either. They need proper education, and I need to keep sharpening my skills as a teacher so that I can reach them better, all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper1134
You should be angry your damn self. Look at the condition of the world and allow yourself to get angry. We don't deserve to live on a war torn planet, we don't deserve to get fucked over by the governments. We deserve peace and personally, I'll be pissed the fuck off till we get it.
Like you say, you can have your opinions on what black women should and should not do, but you can't force them. Maybe they like they way they live.
I'm very happy with the world and the gift of life. And if I weren't, being angry and telling people on the internet wouldn't change a thing. You seem to have a very anarchistic state of mind... am I wrong?
What I'm saying right now is not about opinion. The truth is that the Blackwoman has the power to bring her people to a better place. And she can't do that by following up behind white women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper1134
It's sad that you are happy with the world. But, I honestly wouldn't expect anything else from you. I have a righteous state of mind and I want a righteous civilization for my people.
I've learned a lot from people on the internet. So, I'm glad that they recognized the internet as a tool for sharing knowledge.
Anger is good when it's properly channeled....people who are happy with the world is why there is no change.
No one is going to change anything in the world. There are too many different directions people want to go. So in the meantime, I'll just make the best of it and not turn my life into some pointless struggle. In stead of looking at what's wrong with the world, you can look at what's right in the world.
Just relax and enjoy life.
Enjoying life to me means keeping the struggle alive.
Relaxation is the feeling I get when I build with like minds.
But, to each his own....
The Black Man and Woman lost their true culture and natural way of life well over 4000 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Historians will tell us that the Pyramids in Egypt that have survived until present day are definitely not the apex of unadulterated pure Black civilization.
The European did not ransack the Asiatic Black Man with one single war.
It was hundreds and hundreds of wars, over many many years and many many generations.
The Black Man would win some wars and battles, and lose some wars and battles. But each instance inevitably destroyed what was the apex of Black civilization. Between these wars, that Black Man first had to survive, then try to rebuild his once Supreme civilization. He never got back to his natural way of life, because sooner or later, another brutal and destructive war had to be faught.
The result of all this, over the years, it what we see today. The Black Man and Woman of course has to assimilate to the European way of life, because the culmination of these wars was the destruction of Black civilization. We no longer have the power to live how we would if left alone.
We cannot be simple minded and think that "Black culture" is defined by trivial things like fashion and "proper or improper English." The culture that was lost is long gone and out dated/out of time. The world has changed too much, and too much time has past, so that we no longer have relavent grasp on what Black culture was before the many European invasions of Africa.
I do not like being a second class citizen in a nation that my ancestors built for free. In a nation where my ancestors fought and died in every single war; Revolutionary on up. In a nation that my ancestors and I were and are the backbone of its socioecnomic, political and military prowess.
Those Black Men and Women that are satisfied with their assimilation and acceptance of Western civilization, concede to being second class citizens. No where in history has there been an instance of different "races" living together, peacefully, on a level playing field. Someone has to be the foot stool.
I feel you 100% Aqueous Moon
I am sick and tired of it.
i glad i dont carry round the amount of hate you do.......must weigh a tonne. that will transfer to your seeds. poor little things. well done for side stepping my questions by the way AQ. you carry on hating and trying to change things (when obviously you cant change a damn thing) and all us other people who want to enjoy life will. thanks.
This whole post is a jewel.Quote:
Originally Posted by june181972
Thank you young ladyQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
is there text missing there or something? i'm not spitting 5% bollox all the time please, ive made some negative commets towords the 5%, but i just have a general dislike for any organized relegion...people need to get angry quick? im sorry but when was the last time you were in the hood? it's insaine...it has nothing to do with anger, my city is boiling over with anger theres SO many devils here it's unbeliveable. this morning in the parking lot at the bodega a little girl is in one of those powertoy cars that kids have, and she was just in the parking lot riding around in it while her hoochie ass mom was halfway down the block not even looking at her talking to some fuckin prick...people supposidly "not being angry" isn't the problem at all, and if you can't see that then you can't see me cause it's like that in new york. its doing something about the anger that matters. and i feel that the 5% doesn't do it effectivly enough, that it could be a positive thing just like a lot of pro-black movements, but useually pro-black movements, just like pro anything movements are corrupt and filled with bullshit. you odviously don't have a clue about me, and thats why i catch the vibe that you think im some ignorant hating motherfucker, but you're wrong, we just have different philosophies on how to handle social issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by supremecharma
White Amerikkka has been using the Black Woman for hundreds of years. I mean just think about.....
As slaves the Blackwoman was used as a lactating mammy for the whitewoman's children. She was forced to deprive her own child of nourishment in order to feed the slavemaster's child.
Today the Black woman is soo concerned with the slavemaster and his children that she forsakes her own in order to ensure that the slavemaster and his children keep eating. In fact, she doesn't even realize that she has abandoned her own child because she is so proud of what she has done for the slavemasters child.
And when the children of the slavemaster grow up they turn around and fuck the Blackwoman and her children. That's why we call them muthafukkkas. They didn't grow up and want to honor and respect the Black woman. No, they want to conquer and rule over the Black woman and her seeds for as long as they can.
They don't want to give up their lactating mammy. Take Oprah for example....white Amerikkka loves Oprah because she is a modern day mammy. She caters to white women and their children. They pay her well and she continues to forsake her own. With all her dreams and angels and ass kisssing bullshit. Oprah could take the money and the power that she has and she could do something fo self....but, she is too busy lactating for white folks.
That's why the 5% are the poor righteous teachers. WE will always be poor in Amerikkka because Amerikkka only pays you well when you go along with their agenda and their lies.
^^I agree with mostly everything you said expect the "slavemaster" thing. Doesn't that seem a little racist when you call white people "Slavemasters"?
naw...slavemasters were white back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironman
^^Oh, okay. I understand your pain but you also have to understand that this is America, and white people make up the majority of the population here in America. We as African-Americans have to understand that if we want to suceed in this world, we have to work for white people because they're the ones that have the power to help us suceed in life.
I'm here to tell you that NOT EVERY WHITE PERSON IS EVIL!! My major is Geology, and I'm the only African-American male that's majoring in Geology, seriously. The majority of the Geology program and the people that are majoring in Geology are white people, and they're cool as hell. I have not had any problems with them at all.
If you see a white person walking down the street, would you judge them by the color of their skin? Would you want them to make judgements about you too?
This is a huge problem...you are so worried about defending white people that you can't even process what I'm telling you about our people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironman
What I am saying IS NOT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!!!
I don't really care if all white people are evil or not.
We need to recognize that we are dying in this system that is ruled by white people. They don't have to be evil, maybe they just like to fuck over people for kicks.
We as Black people need to understand that working for white people is not bringing us success, it's bringing us death, war, katrina victims, 9/11, jail, homelessness, disease...etc. etc.
There are plenty of successful black men and women, for that matter.
yea...we will see what it means to be Black and successfull when this shit goes down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper1134