Theory on the Creation of Humans

Like how Native Americans had creation stories, and greeks had their stories about zues and all this and that, and ect ect with other peoples? You believe a story such as that?

Do you believe the earth is the center of the universe? and the Sun and everything in it roates around the earth?

I definitely believe that the land on Earth is a giant turtle.
and we grew out of his back.
evolution? yeah right.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

There was a certain point in history where people got together and started telling each other they were wrong.

Then people started telling other people their origins.

To make it easier, people came up with theories they could agree on.

But then somebody that didn't forget thier origin told those people they were full of shit.

And around and around we go.

I could give you my theory on where you came from, but the truth is, I don't know where you came from. You tell me you evolved from a monkey, so for all I know you evolved from a monkey over millions of years. But I think somebody told you that, and you like that idea so you ran with it.

But don't tell me I came from a monkey, because I know where my ancestors originated from.

I can't tell you my creation story, because what would be the point? Your going to tell me i'm some crazy person that believes in fairy tales, or even worse- God. Just the same way that i'm telling you, your crazy for believing you evolved from a monkey.

Maybe you did evolve from a monkey, that's cool.

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All right, just hear me out a sec. I'm tired of the insult match this has become. You have a right to speak your opinion, and I'll respect it, but just hear me out here.

You are acting like all creation stories are relative. But that's not the case. And you still don't have a grasp on what "theory" means in a scientific context. Theory doesn't mean just some random guess. It's a set of tested hypotheses. Right now, scientific research fully supports the theory of evolution. In fact, there's no possible way of denying it outside of pure ignorance. You can truly prove that evolution happens. There's absolutely no alternative to that at the moment.

Now, with the whole thing about apes. Apparently this bothers you. I don't know why humans have a problem acknowledging they came from animals, but whatever. Saying you came from a monkey is pretty inaccurate. You can say you know where your ancestors came from all you want, but no matter how far you claim you can trace your ancestry, you're going to reach a point of no records. Man's evolution from great apes didn't happen overnight. It wasn't magical. It happened over the course of a million years. So, no humans aren't monkeys, but humans and other great apes have a common ancestor. This is provable by DNA. Did you know that there's only one chromosomal difference between the DNA strand of a chimpanzee and that of a human?

People try to shoot a hole through the argument by saying the fossil record isn't complete. You don't need a full fossil record to draw the conclusion that a series of species of ape gave rise to humans.

So in summary, it's absolutely positive that evolution occurs, just as much as its positive that gravity is caused by planetary rotation. The things that are uncertain are exact mechanisms that cause it and exact fossil records between certain species.

best bump of a thread ever

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Originally Posted by whitey

Like how Native Americans had creation stories, and greeks had their stories about zues and all this and that, and ect ect with other peoples? You believe a story such as that?

Do you believe the earth is the center of the universe? and the Sun and everything in it roates around the earth?

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I don't believe a story. I know where my ancestors came from.

I know that the earth rotates around the sun and the sun gives us energy to live.

I don't know why your trying to stereo type native americans as primitive cave people that didn't have knowledge of basic earth science. It just shows your ignorance.

If you want to see how every creation story around every corner and neck of the woods on Earth is relative to each other - don't be ignorant and take a comprehensive read of all the different religions. I can tell some of you have not given a serious analytical look to finding the parallel stories that happened all over the world. Pertaining to the biblical flood, the Dragon/Niburu/Wormwood/Planet X/The Destroyer, and of course- our creation.

But first deal with this cat.

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Originally Posted by V4D3R http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
...unless it is then also determined that the infection (“horizontal transfer”) went from bacteria to Man and not from Man to bacteria, the only other available solution will be that offered by the Sumerian texts millennia ago.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

really? you're defending a statement like that?!

the human genome wasn't fully sequenced until May of last year. so what you're saying is that a gap in our understanding of our genes can ONLY be explained by accepting the Sumerian creation story as fact? cmon man, don't dress up that garbage in here and try to pass it off as knowledge. go do your homework.

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Why is it that your trying to mince words when this is the fact right here actually.

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How sure are the scientists that such important and complex genes, such an immense human advantage, was obtained by us --“rather recently”-- through the courtesy of infecting bacteria?
“It is a jump that does not follow current evolutionary theories,” said Steven Scherer, director of mapping of the Human Genome Sequencing Center, Baylor College of Medicine.
“We did not identify a strongly preferred bacterial source for the putative horizontally transferred genes,” states the report in Nature. The Public Consortium team, conducting a detailed search, found that some 113 genes (out of the 223) “are widespread among bacteria” – though they are entirely absent even in invertebrates. An analysis of the proteins which the enigmatic genes express showed that out of 35 identified, only ten had counterparts in vertebrates (ranging from cows to rodents to fish); 25 of the 35 were unique to humans.

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And the funny thing is how Enki describes how they introduced bovine to this planet and certain fish and grains.

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Cthulhu
All right, just hear me out a sec. I'm tired of the insult match this has become. You have a right to speak your opinion, and I'll respect it, but just hear me out here.

You are acting like all creation stories are relative. But that's not the case. And you still don't have a grasp on what "theory" means in a scientific context. Theory doesn't mean just some random guess. It's a set of tested hypotheses. Right now, scientific research fully supports the theory of evolution. In fact, there's no possible way of denying it outside of pure ignorance. You can truly prove that evolution happens. There's absolutely no alternative to that at the moment.

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And your acting like you can read my mind. The worst insult i've thrown your way is maybe monkey boy.

Just so we're clear this the definintion of theory as I understand it:

noun: a belief that can guide behavior

Example: "The architect has a theory that more is less"

noun: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena

Example: "A scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"

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Cthulhu
Now, with the whole thing about apes. Apparently this bothers you. I don't know why humans have a problem acknowledging they came from animals, but whatever. Saying you came from a monkey is pretty inaccurate. You can say you know where your ancestors came from all you want, but no matter how far you claim you can trace your ancestry, you're going to reach a point of no records. Man's evolution from great apes didn't happen overnight. It wasn't magical. It happened over the course of a million years. So, no humans aren't monkeys, but humans and other great apes have a common ancestor. This is provable by DNA. Did you know that there's only one chromosomal difference between the DNA strand of a chimpanzee and that of a human?

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I have no problem with thinking you evloved from a monkey over millions of years. Your replies might as well serve as evidence of that.

Why do you think you need to teach me biology. I got an A in college level biology, your not teaching me anything I don't already know. I could teach you a few things though.

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Cthulhu
People try to shoot a hole through the argument by saying the fossil record isn't complete. You don't need a full fossil record to draw the conclusion that a series of species of ape gave rise to humans.

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I'm sorry, but you do need a complete record. It's called science. The fossil record isn't complete because your missing link doesn't exist. They don't even exist for species all the way across the board.

science:








noun: ability to produce solutions in some problem domain

Example: "The sweet science of pugilism"

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Patrick J. Conaway

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No transitional fossils had been found at the time Darwin

published Origin of Species, and this led to much criticism of his

work by fellow scientists. Darwin attributed this lack of evidence

to the limited ability of early science to explore the planet, and he

assured his critics that these blanks would be filled by future

scientific discoveries. Had he been right, by now we should be

literally drowning in transitional fossils, but the dirty little secret of
science is that there are no transitional fossils. None. Nada. Zero.
Zip. Zilch. Of all the multiplied millions of fossils discovered since

the time of Darwin, not one can be labeled as a transitional fossil.

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The gaps which separate species: dog/fox, rat/mouse

etc. are utterly trivial compared with, say, that between

a primitive terrestrial mammal and a whale or a

primitive terrestrial reptile and an Ichthyosaur; and

even these relatively major discontinuities are trivial

alongside those which divide major phyla such as
molluscs and arthropods. Such major discontinuities
simply could not, unless we are to believe in miracles,
have been crossed in geologically short periods of time
through one or two transitional species occupying
restricted geographical areas. Surely, such transitions
must have involved long lineages including many
collateral lines of hundreds or probably thousands of
transitional species.
To suggest that the hundreds, thousands or possibly
even millions of transitional species which must have
existed in the interval between vastly dissimilar types
were all unsuccessful species occupying isolated areas
and having very small population numbers is verging

on the incredible! (Denton, p.193)

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To the sceptic, the proposition that the genetic
programmes of higher organisms, consisting of
something close to a thousand million bits of
information, equivalent to the sequence of letters in a small library of one thousand volumes, containing in
encoded form countless thousands of intricate
algorithms controlling, specifying and ordering the
growth and development of billions of cells into the
form of a complex organism, were composed by a
purely random process is simply an affront to reason.
But to the Darwinist the idea is accepted without a
ripple of doubt—the paradigm takes precedence!

(Denton, p.351)

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Cthulhu

So in summary, it's absolutely positive that evolution occurs, just as much as its positive that gravity is caused by planetary rotation. The things that are uncertain are exact mechanisms that cause it and exact fossil records between certain species.

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If your asolutley positive evolution occurs then why are you uncertain of the exact mechanisms that cause it? Sounds like magic to me.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

I don't believe a story. I know where my ancestors came from.

I know that the earth rotates around the sun and the sun gives us energy to live.

I don't know why your trying to stereo type native americans as primitive cave people that didn't have knowledge of basic earth science. It just shows your ignorance.

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Your putting words in my mouth. I never said anything like that. I was asking what you believed. Did you get insulted because I lumped native american creation theories and the Greek gods like Zeus? Like you find the greek creation theory ubsurd? Or did you just infer because I believe in natural selection that I must think Native Americans are primitive cave people? Because I said neither. You think im some dumb white guy who looks down on others because they arent white?

Native Americans were smart people in terms of being able to live off the land, build things, survive ect. I dont think anyone who lives in a concreteless and metaless society are primative cave people, everyone just didnt have access to the raw materials, domesticable animals, suitable farmland, domesticable crops, good weather. They have to be even smarter to be able to survive on what they have.



Now that we got that out of the way, what makes your ancestors come from a different place than mine?



And here is an example of what im talking about. The creation theory of the Aztecs...

Aztec


The mother of the Aztec creation story was called Coatlique (the Lady of the Skirt of Snakes). She was created in the image of the unknown, decorated with skulls, snakes, and lacerated hands. There are no cracks in her body and she is a perfect monolith (a totality of intensity and self-containment, yet her features were square and decapitated). Coatlique was first impregnated by an obsidian knife and gave birth to Coyolxanuhqui, goddess of the moon, and to a group of male offspring, who became the stars. Then one day Coatlique found a ball of feathers, which she tucked into her bosom. When she looked for it later, it was gone, at which time she realized that she was again pregnant. Her children, the moon and stars did not believe her story. Ashamed of their mother, they resolved to kill her. A goddess could only give birth once, to the original litter of divinity and no more. During the time that they were plotting her demise, Coatlique gave birth to the fiery god of war, Huitzilopochtli. With the help of a fire serpent, he destroyed his brothers and sister, murdering them in a rage. He beheaded Coyolxauhqui and threw her body into a deep gorge in a mountain, where it lies dismembered forever. The natural cosmos of the Indians was born of catastrophe. The heavens literally crumbled to pieces. The earth mother fell and was fertilized, while her children were torn apart by fratricide and then scattered and disjointed throughout the universe.


I have more of other peoples/cultures, if need be. But your saying something like that, is where humanity came from?

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Originally Posted by whitey

Your putting words in my mouth. I never said anything like that. I was asking what you believed. Did you get insulted because I lumped native american creation theories and the Greek gods like Zeus? Like you find the greek creation theory ubsurd? Or did you just infer because I believe in natural selection that I must think Native Americans are primitive cave people? Because I said neither. You think im some dumb white guy who looks down on others because they arent white?

Native Americans were smart people in terms of being able to live off the land, build things, survive ect. I dont think anyone who lives in a concreteless and metaless society are primative cave people, everyone just didnt have access to the raw materials, domesticable animals, suitable farmland, domesticable crops, good weather. They have to be even smarter to be able to survive on what they have.



Now that we got that out of the way, what makes your ancestors come from a different place than mine?



And here is an example of what im talking about. The creation theory of the Aztecs...

Aztec


The mother of the Aztec creation story was called Coatlique (the Lady of the Skirt of Snakes). She was created in the image of the unknown, decorated with skulls, snakes, and lacerated hands. There are no cracks in her body and she is a perfect monolith (a totality of intensity and self-containment, yet her features were square and decapitated). Coatlique was first impregnated by an obsidian knife and gave birth to Coyolxanuhqui, goddess of the moon, and to a group of male offspring, who became the stars. Then one day Coatlique found a ball of feathers, which she tucked into her bosom. When she looked for it later, it was gone, at which time she realized that she was again pregnant. Her children, the moon and stars did not believe her story. Ashamed of their mother, they resolved to kill her. A goddess could only give birth once, to the original litter of divinity and no more. During the time that they were plotting her demise, Coatlique gave birth to the fiery god of war, Huitzilopochtli. With the help of a fire serpent, he destroyed his brothers and sister, murdering them in a rage. He beheaded Coyolxauhqui and threw her body into a deep gorge in a mountain, where it lies dismembered forever. The natural cosmos of the Indians was born of catastrophe. The heavens literally crumbled to pieces. The earth mother fell and was fertilized, while her children were torn apart by fratricide and then scattered and disjointed throughout the universe.


I have more of other peoples/cultures, if need be. But your saying something like that, is where humanity came from?

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I already told you what I found offensive:

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Do you believe the earth is the center of the universe? and the Sun and everything in it roates around the earth?

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Your correlating my knowledge of my ancestors origins with ubsurdity, in an effort to discredit me within our small internet community.

In regards to your Aztec story in relation to my knowledge of the creation of my ancestors:

It's nothing like that. I have no knowledge of when and where the Aztec were created nor do I claim to possess that knowledge. That's just as absurd as you claiming humanity's evolution from primates.

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo...ages/TE(9).jpg

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

I already told you what I found offensive:



Your correlating my knowledge of my ancestors origins with ubsurdity, in an effort to discredit me within our small internet community.

In regards to your Aztec story in relation to my knowledge of the creation of my ancestors:

It's nothing like that. I have no knowledge of when and where the Aztec were created nor do I claim to possess that knowledge. That's just as absurd as you claiming humanity's evolution from primates.

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It wasn't ment to belittle your intellegence. I was using it to show thats what people once believed. And science disproved that, but there were lots of people that didn't want to believe it.

That ties into natural selection and evolution and people just not wanting to believe it because they were so hung up on their prioer believes that seemed to be the be all and end all.

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Whitey-
Native Americans were smart people in terms of being able to live off the land, build things, survive ect. I dont think anyone who lives in a concreteless and metaless society are primative cave people, everyone just didnt have access to the raw materials, domesticable animals, suitable farmland, domesticable crops, good weather.

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Native americans did have access to:

raw materials, domesticable animals, suitable farmland, crops, and good weather.

Some native cultures were agrarian, and according to some historians most of north and south american continents' people of pre-history were moving to agrarian cultures before foreign diseases wiped out most of the population.

There were all kinds different cultures and lifestyles. Ones that didn't take a heavy toll on the earth.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

Native americans did have access to:

raw materials, domesticable animals, suitable farmland, crops, and good weather.

Some native cultures were agrarian, and according to some historians most of north and south american continents' people of pre-history were moving to agrarian cultures before foreign diseases wiped out most of the population.

There were all kinds different cultures and lifestyles. Ones that didn't take a heavy toll on the earth.

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You would be a good person to read Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond


Id think you'd learn alot. Ive been touting that book a lot in here, but honestly, put it in amazon or yahoo or something and just read the summary and see if your interested.

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Originally Posted by whitey

It wasn't ment to belittle your intellegence. I was using it to show thats what people once believed. And science disproved that, but there were lots of people that didn't want to believe it.

That ties into natural selection and evolution and people just not wanting to believe it because they were so hung up on their prioer believes that seemed to be the be all and end all.

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Just because some people use to believe that:

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The earth was the center of universe, and everything rotated around it.

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Doesn't mean all people believed that, or that native people believed that way.

LIke I siad in a different thread. There was a whole continent of people here with advanced knowledge in earth science. The things scientists are just now realizing, other people have known for a millennium.


It's similar to your belief in darwins theory of evolution:

I'm telling you it's bullshit, and your still telling me the earth is flat.

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Originally Posted by whitey

You would be a good person to read Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond


Id think you'd learn alot. Ive been touting that book a lot in here, but honestly, put it in amazon or yahoo or something and just read the summary and see if your interested.

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Sounds intriquing.

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Originally Posted by V4D3R

Let me break it down for you dumb fuckers.


in 1 - I mention this because the Sitchin theory has ancient texts for reference - in particular the auto-biography of a deity named Enki/Ptah the one that held the caduceus first - something most of you "scientists" use as your stamp of approval on "scientific" shit.

Sitchinites (followers of Sitchin's works) - know that he is on to something when it comes to proving the existence of a race of beings that came to earth and made mankind in their own image( sons of god in Genesis 6).

Those of you that don't believe in this theory are basically followers of some religion.

The xtian will say that the anunnaki are the fallens ones spoken of in the bible:
Facrt is that the church of christians are the most notorious mass killers in the history of this planet. Now the real scenario - spoken about thousands of years ago by one named Enki- is that like us human-beings- aliens have good and bad intentions. People rather visualize this Hollywood aliens with common agendas. Thats not the case.

When Enki needed workers because his were complaining - him ans his sister came up with the brainchild to create a primitive obedient worker. The human DNA/RNA map is pretty simple to a being with millions of years of history when you think about how complex theirs must be.

Enki states that he used different species of beings on this planet to create the first adams. He specifically chose 3 beings that resembled anunnaki - bi-pedal and walked up-right. I can think of 3 beings to suit this claim- the orangutan, the chimpazee, and the gorilla. The first has a reddish tint to it's skin, the chimp has mixed skin colors- some are dark - some white, and gorilla's are black skinned.

**Now I know some of you will want to debate this- but - facts are facts- it was written long ago**

Now for #2-

This is a species of being that was already inter-mingled with other species of this galaxy - Enki's son Marduk is half Draconian (reptilian species from Draco constellation). His skin was green they say. He was a hot-headed fellow that loved to dominate even his own blood - his brothers and sisters all competed to have their section of the earth - they raised armies of humans to fight each other- but the key in this is how they used religion and technology to make themselves seem god-like to our primitive earlier humans- even you religious fanatics nowadays - would fall prostrate to the ground if I had a fiery rod and glow around me.

They used religion - Enki also created the first messiah. The reason he created this messiah was because at one point - Niburu was returning and Enlil did not want to save humankind from the impeding destruction caused by the gravitational pull of Niburu on the earth. Out of the batches of Adapa's( Adapa is the second "Adam"), their was an albino named Galzu, this albino studied under Enki and was one of his favorite humans. After his death- which deeply saddened Enki, he had rec curing dreams about the little fellow- the fellow would tell Enki that the Creator of All does not want humanity to perish in the flood and calamity caused by Niburu's arrival- so Enki taught another human- ( well call him Zizu for short). Yes you bible thumpers call him Noah. Enki even divulges why and how he created a savior for mankind.

Some call him Horus, some call him Melchizedek, some call him Khrishna, some call him Jesus. But the original - I dont know who the original messiah is - nor do I care, because they all had the simple message of this-

The Creator( Kingdom of God) ( Heaven) is within us all. We are all one with the creator and each other.

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tru indeed.

Sitchens work is held to be a credible theory or fact. All of the Sumerian tablets show the helix and gentic connection. All of the ancient societies had a relationship with the higher cosmos. All of the societies spoke on fallen angels/ beings from above.

The truth is behind us, you need to look deeper into the histoory of this planet and civilizations. All of the bible stories come from the Sumerians. All of sitchens thoughts/views fill in where scientist stay away from... and also fill in the holes where the Bible doesnt account on.

you all need to connect the dots, we are near to these answers and things will come 2 surface soon.

Sitchens story is far better than the rib story.

peace.

I love how Slippy continually cloaks his thin arguments in ad hominem attacks. But fuck it. No use preaching to the blind. He apparently knows exactly where his ancestors came from, even though he doesn't care to enlighten us what that entails.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

I love how Slippy continually cloaks his thin arguments in ad hominem attacks. But fuck it. No use preaching to the blind. He apparently knows exactly where his ancestors came from, even though he doesn't care to enlighten us what that entails.

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:lmao::point: :'(

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

:lmao::point: :'(

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Thanks for proving my point.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Thanks for proving my point.

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Which is:

Your being a crybaby now?

Your welcome.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

Which is:

Your being a crybaby now?

Your welcome.

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You proved my point that you only know how to use ad hominem arguments because you have very little to back up your illogical opinions.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

You proved my point that you only know how to use ad hominem arguments because you have very little to back up your illogical opinions.

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What's illogical? Show me. Otherwise, quit your emotional responses.

Hah, slip you act like SUNNY WINTERS or something bro. You bring nothing but dissagrements, then when other people bring facts or atleast something decent to banter with you just reduce yourself to personal attacks.

Bring something to the table son.

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Originally Posted by whitey

Hah, slip you act like SUNNY WINTERS or something bro. You bring nothing but dissagrements, then when other people bring facts or atleast something decent to banter with you just reduce yourself to personal attacks.

Bring something to the table son.

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And what is everyone else bringing?

A scientific theory that will not stand the test of time.

and........

What?

You want my knowledge on the creation of humans? Why? so you can disagree?

You evolved from monkeys into homonids into humans. I'm cool with that. I respect that. But your monkey nature lacks the respect I need to share knowledge with you.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

What's illogical? Show me. Otherwise, quit your emotional responses.

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There's no one in this thread being emotional but you, sport.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

There's no one in this thread being emotional but you, sport.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

And what is everyone else bringing?

A scientific theory that will not stand the test of time.

and........

What?

You want my knowledge on the creation of humans? Why? so you can disagree?

You evolved from monkeys into homonids into humans. I'm cool with that. I respect that. But your monkey nature lacks the respect I need to share knowledge with you.

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Hah, monkey nature, thats funny.


Since the other thread got closed, ill bring respond to the gravity thing since I didnt get a chance to before.


My point with that is, where do you draw the line in science? You except rational college educated scientists when it comes to gravity (I know it was newton, not the point) but you say no to evolution although all signs point to it? Do you just pick and choose what science you want to believe in depending on if it clashes with your beliefs? How does that work? Do you think fossils are real? Dinosaurs? Ect?

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Originally Posted by whitey

Hah, monkey nature, thats funny.


Since the other thread got closed, ill bring respond to the gravity thing since I didnt get a chance to before.


My point with that is, where do you draw the line in science? You except rational college educated scientists when it comes to gravity (I know it was newton, not the point) but you say no to evolution although all signs point to it? Do you just pick and choose what science you want to believe in depending on if it clashes with your beliefs? How does that work? Do you think fossils are real? Dinosaurs? Ect?

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I respect scientists but not all scientists. "Western" scientists strive to disprove the existence of what they consider "super natural."

The theory of evolution doesn't clash with my beliefs. I just don't believe some of the explanations-or theories that are currently excepted by the mainstream.

Gravity, Physics, Mathamatics. I've studied all these things. These are laws that govern our universe, yet the theory of evoultion wants to bend these laws that govern are natural world.

Now try answer this question from the previous thread:

What effect does gravity play in the theory of evolution?

haha, will it ever end?

i respect the fact that vader actually put what he thinks out there.

instead of constantly saying evolution is wrong for this reason or that, say what you actually think.

your prepared to give criticism, why not let others constructively criticise what you think?

i understand that this thread will be met with more irrelevent shit about gravity and monkeys.

i think we should all give up and let it die, proponents of evolution have said all they want to.... and vader has said what he wanted to about the matter,

yet slippy your still yet to say anything, and id have to say thats how it will stay.

let this shit die.

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Originally Posted by sean michael

haha, will it ever end?

i respect the fact that vader actually put what he thinks out there.

instead of constantly saying evolution is wrong for this reason or that, say what you actually think.

your prepared to give criticism, why not let others constructively criticise what you think?

i understand that this thread will be met with more irrelevent shit about gravity and monkeys.

i think we should all give up and let it die, proponents of evolution have said all they want to.... and vader has said what he wanted to about the matter,

yet slippy your still yet to say anything, and id have to say thats how it will stay.

let this shit die.

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The criticism is never constructive.

The theory of evolution, in regards to the creation of human beings is bullshit.

Criticize away.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...rttrolling.jpg

I'm not trolling, I've shared enough of my knowledge on the subject in the past. Experience tells me people can't handle the truth.

i'm ready for the truth so give it. how were human beings created?

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i'm ready for the truth so give it. how were human beings created?

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The truth is, nobody knows the truth.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

The criticism is never constructive.

The theory of evolution, in regards to the creation of human beings is bullshit.

Criticize away.

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So lets get this straight,according to you just the creation of humans through evolution is bullshit?


How about everything else on this planet?

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

Now try answer this question from the previous thread:

What effect does gravity play in the theory of evolution?

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Hah, I think you are trying to pick apart an argument that is not being made. Like I said before, I am relating the two in terms of scientific theories accepted by scientists. Its like yea apples and oranges can't be compaired on the micro scale because they are two different things, as evolution and gravity are, but on the macro scale of things apples and oranges are both fruits, as evolution and gravity both pertain to modern science. My point to what Im getting at is I think you dont believe evolution because it doesnt fit your pre-existing beliefs.


That is to suggest, say you started with a blank slate. You knew nothing of the creation of humans from any direction. And someone posed to you two options, those being...the explanation of however you believe we got here, (which idk since you dont seem to be willing to reveal it), and the theory of evolution backed by most credible scientists all over the world, and you had to choose. In an honest manor, I think you would pick evolution.

Just like most people that believe in religion (or some sort of system as such) today, they were brought up on it, it was implanted in them as truth from a young age, and nothing can come before that. And when something like evolution contradicts what you believe, in this case how we got here, it is tossed aside as bullshit, because if you were to believe it, your world as you know it would come crumbling down.



Does that answer your question?



(P.S. I had TWO bananas today, they were really good)

the truth is out there

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Originally Posted by whitey

So lets get this straight,according to you just the creation of humans through evolution is bullshit?


How about everything else on this planet?

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You mean animals and plants? It's bullshit.

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Originally Posted by whitey

Hah, I think you are trying to pick apart an argument that is not being made. Like I said before, I am relating the two in terms of scientific theories accepted by scientists. Its like yea apples and oranges can't be compaired on the micro scale because they are two different things, as evolution and gravity are, but on the macro scale of things apples and oranges are both fruits, as evolution and gravity both pertain to modern science. My point to what Im getting at is I think you dont believe evolution because it doesnt fit your pre-existing beliefs.


That is to suggest, say you started with a blank slate. You knew nothing of the creation of humans from any direction. And someone posed to you two options, those being...the explanation of however you believe we got here, (which idk since you dont seem to be willing to reveal it), and the theory of evolution backed by most credible scientists all over the world, and you had to choose. In an honest manor, I think you would pick evolution.

Just like most people that believe in religion (or some sort of system as such) today, they were brought up on it, it was implanted in them as truth from a young age, and nothing can come before that. And when something like evolution contradicts what you believe, in this case how we got here, it is tossed aside as bullshit, because if you were to believe it, your world as you know it would come crumbling down.



Does that answer your question?



(P.S. I had TWO bananas today, they were really good)

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No you didn't answer my question because:

You lack the ability to think critically.



What effect does gravity play in the theory of evolution? What role does it play on the the evolutionary fitness of an organism?

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

The truth is, nobody knows the truth.

End thread.

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Somebody knows...just because you may not know doesn't mean it's universally unknown.

bananas are great.