Why do civil rights groups keep sticking up for Michael Vick?

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Originally Posted by Ironman

WOW!!! You make a lot of sense.

Jesus Christ! "To the Republic, for which it stands". Until you said that, I never realize it. }:|

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If a simple, yet right in your face, lie can be perpetuated like this, imagine what else they're doing behind our backs?

Go to youtube and type in Taj Tariq Bey or Hakim Bey. They drop serious knowledge.

um a republic is a democracy, one in which elected officials make the laws (in a pure democracy the people themselves make the laws). that said, yes the government hates us, all of us, not just the black ones.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

um a republic is a democracy, one in which elected officials make the laws (in a pure democracy the people themselves make the laws). that said, yes the government hates us, all of us, not just the black ones.

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Who said that the govt. hates "just" black folks.

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

Who said that the govt. hates "just" black folks.

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He said that because the stereotype is most of the American people don't like blacks. This all has to do with stereotypes and image of black people. Know you the average looking balck man: Thug, 5x white t-shirt, tims or air ones, sagging pants, speaking ebonics, braids, dumb, ghetto, etc. The average black women: ghetto, wierd freaking name, attitude, crazy fake hair, depressed, etc. American people use steretypes like these to create an image for a certain race. It just so happen to be blacks. All these stereotypes about blacks really started in the late 80's to mid-90's. Like fat white women, drugs, thug, stupid, HIV/AIDS, etc.


Who's to blame for this? Black people, media, God, or whites? }:|

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Originally Posted by Ironman

He said that because the stereotype is most of the American people don't like blacks. This all has to do with stereotypes and image of black people. Know you the average looking balck man:5x white t-shirt, tims or air ones, speaking ebonics, braids, dumb, ghetto, etc. The average black women: ghetto, wierd freaking name, attitude, crazy fake hair, depressed, etc. American people use steretypes like this to creat an image for a certain race. It just so happen to be blacks. Who' to blame for this? Black people, media, God, or whites? }:|

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What I can only pick one? That's not fair.

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

What I can only pick one? That's not fair.

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I just edited my post. I don't understand you question.

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Originally Posted by Ironman

He said that because the stereotype is most of the American people don't like blacks. This all has to do with stereotypes and image of black people. Know you the average looking balck man: Thug, 5x white t-shirt, tims or air ones, sagging pants, speaking ebonics, braids, dumb, ghetto, etc. The average black women: ghetto, wierd freaking name, attitude, crazy fake hair, depressed, etc. American people use steretypes like these to create an image for a certain race. It just so happen to be blacks. All these stereotypes about blacks really started in the late 80's to mid-90's. Like fat white women, drugs, thug, stupid, HIV/AIDS, etc.


Who's to blame for this? Black people, media, God, or whites? }:|

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You have to go vastly beyond the 1500s for the start.

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Originally Posted by Ironman

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Michael Vick should be cut from the NFL and locked up for what he did. He f***** up.....and it's his own damn fault for being a dickhead.

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word, thats real talk right there...

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

You have to go vastly beyond the 1500s for the start.

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I don't understand why you posted that. All Dave Chappelle did was perpetuate the stereotypes of African Americans that black people are stupid, and white people are smart, great and weak. Go beyond the 1500s for what. Slavery?

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Originally Posted by Ironman

I don't understand why you posted that. All Dave Chappelle did was perpetuate the stereotypes of African Americans that black people are stupid, and white people are smart, great and weak. Go beyond the 1500s for what. Slavery?

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I posted the clip from my man Dave cause it displayed some stereotypes. I said that it goes back past the 1500s cause stereotypes go past that timeframe. You can go to the Dravidians, etc. There has been all types of cast and class systems. Just adding on.

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

I posted the clip from my man Dave cause it displayed some stereotypes. I said that it goes back past the 1500s cause stereotypes go past that timeframe. You can go to the Dravidians, etc. There has been all types of cast and class systems. Just adding on.

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Okay. Blacks aren't the only ones who act like that, you know.

Oh, shit!!!!! It's my 900th post!!!!!:dududu:

Like was expected, Vick takes the plea agreement, cause he knows that he's guilty, and there is way too much evidence against him. Then some idiotic people like Stephon Marbury try to tell people to get off Vick's back, and that dog fighting is considered like a sport. Maybe Marbury should focus on his lackluster basketball career and his $10 sneakers that nobody buys. Also, those stupid fans in Atlanta that keep supporting Vick by holding up signs such as 'Vick for President'. What a bunch of losers.

ya you just mad cos your pussy ass pit lost to my sis's shih tzu.

http://www.cyberpet.com/dogs/1dogima...nkshihtzu1.jpg

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Originally Posted by check two

Like was expected, Vick takes the plea agreement, cause he knows that he's guilty, and there is way too much evidence against him. Then some idiotic people like Stephon Marbury try to tell people to get off Vick's back, and that dog fighting is considered like a sport. Maybe Marbury should focus on his lackluster basketball career and his $10 sneakers that nobody buys. Also, those stupid fans in Atlanta that keep supporting Vick by holding up signs such as 'Vick for President'. What a bunch of losers.

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Great point, my friend. It just makes you think how stupid people really are. }:| Jesus freaking Christ!}:|

Same Damn thing! Now go eat a Happy Meal:(

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

Same Damn thing! Now go eat a Happy Meal:(

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Laughing at blackwisdom at comparing dog fighting to meat products (food). Not to insult you in anyway, Blackwisdom, but how does killing a domiscant animal for food compare to dog fighting?}:| Think abut it for a moment. Cows, chickens, sheep, pigs were domiscanted thousands of years ago for the means of farming and a great source of food. And you know that. Dogs weren't domiscanted for food. The reason why dogs were domsicanted was the purpose of begin a man's best friend. There's a difference.

Dog fighting is just freaking wrong. A dog is like a human being in a good way. People have dog as friends, hunting partners, watch dogs, to guide the blind and for people that cannot do much for themselfs. Dogs are friends and for us to fight them for entertainment and profit in just freaking insane. That's where people cross the line. So, don't try to shift the blame on farming and meat products. Thanks.

Just saying killing a dog whatever whatever doesnt sound as bad. But really think about it. He physically held a living being under water, while it was probably going crazy until it no longer had any life in it. He physically wetted animals down and electricuted them, blood probably coming out of their ears, their bodies convulsing. He also shot them in the head, im guessing execution style, from close range, blood and brains spattering like Marvin in pulp fiction.

There is something not right in a persons brain when they can do those sort of things to another living thing.

Why do civil rights stick up for Vick?

Because poor black people stand up for rich black people. Especially when the rich black man is under scrutiny by the powerful, old, and racist white man. Right? Something like that?

Of course, we all know if this was just some bum off the street, it wouldn't be an issue. He'd just be "some dumb nigger" who's taking down the community.

Obviously the NAACP or whoever has no integrity, and that's sad. If I were black, and I saw them standing up for Vick, I'd really be worried about the true direction.

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Originally Posted by Ironman

Laughing at blackwisdom at comparing dog fighting to meat products (food). Not to insult you in anyway, Blackwisdom, but how does killing a domiscant animal for food compare to dog fighting?}:| Think abut it for a moment. Cows, chickens, sheep, pigs were domiscanted thousands of years ago for the means of farming and a great source of food. And you know that. Dogs weren't domiscanted for food. The reason why dogs were domsicanted was the purpose of begin a man's best friend. There's a difference.

Dog fighting is just freaking wrong. A dog is like a human being in a good way. People have dog as friends, hunting partners, watch dogs, to guide the blind and for people that cannot do much for themselfs. Dogs are friends and for us to fight them for entertainment and profit in just freaking insane. That's where people cross the line. So, don't try to shift the blame on farming and meat products. Thanks.

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Your argument won't hold up in countries that eat dogs like American's eat chickens. Seeing as dogs are a "great source of food."

Dogs are only like humans to people who want them to be like humans. Some people have pigs for pets and treat them like one of the family. Some people can't live without porkchops. Some people treat monkeys like humans. Some people prodrude monkeys' heads up out of a hole in the middle of a table, bash their brains out with mallets, then eat their brains at the table. Some people follow research and study whales, while some people put the blubber oil on their lips to look pretty. I guess the commonality of all of this is the cultural norm. According to my knowledge most of the more vicious breeds of dogs come from Europe. But there's nothing wrong with that though is it?

I see your point. I knew what I was doing and I knew that someone was going to come back at me in the way that you did.

You're speaking of cultural norms. Due to the fact that he's in America where a lot of folks treat dogs like they're their "baabies" it's gross and what not. We're suppose to treat dogs and cats with the upmost respect, right? But we can't fight them and killl them cruely like Chicken George. Oh but wait...

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Originally Posted by whitey

Just saying killing a dog whatever whatever doesnt sound as bad. But really think about it. He physically held a living being under water, while it was probably going crazy until it no longer had any life in it. He physically wetted animals down and electricuted them, blood probably coming out of their ears, their bodies convulsing. He also shot them in the head, im guessing execution style, from close range, blood and brains spattering like Marvin in pulp fiction.

There is something not right in a persons brain when they can do those sort of things to another living thing.

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I guess penitentiary executioners are not right in the brain for doing "those sorts of things to another living thing." "HOW DRE YOU COMPARE A MURDERER TO A DOG , blackwisdom?" Well you said, "living thing."

The botton line for me is the vicious killing of any animal is cruel and unjust. If it's going to be on your plate then it's okay, right? No matter how it dies cause it's under you on the food chain, right?

Oh but wait.... What about the people that buy aborted fetuses and eat them? They (aborted fetuses) are considered medical trash right? Is it cruel to eat trash? I mean the momma did kill it and that person is only disposing of it right? Where do we draw the line?

Extreme thinking, I know. All I'm trying to say is that what one person does for pleasure another sees as terror sometimes.

Mike Vick is in the US so he's going to suffer US consequences (period). That's all I have to say about thait.

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Originally Posted by Dirty Knowledge

Why do civil rights stick up for Vick?

Because poor black people stand up for rich black people. Especially when the rich black man is under scrutiny by the powerful, old, and racist white man. Right? Something like that?

Of course, we all know if this was just some bum off the street, it wouldn't be an issue. He'd just be "some dumb nigger" who's taking down the community.

Obviously the NAACP or whoever has no integrity, and that's sad. If I were black, and I saw them standing up for Vick, I'd really be worried about the true direction.

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I've always wondered about them. They'll never trully rep the people cause the people aren't their sole funder:looking:

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Originally Posted by Dirty Knowledge

Why do civil rights stick up for Vick?

Because poor black people stand up for rich black people. Especially when the rich black man is under scrutiny by the powerful, old, and racist white man. Right? Something like that?

Of course, we all know if this was just some bum off the street, it wouldn't be an issue. He'd just be "some dumb nigger" who's taking down the community.

Obviously the NAACP or whoever has no integrity, and that's sad. If I were black, and I saw them standing up for Vick, I'd really be worried about the true direction.

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look at my view..........

Scooter Libby(released classified information) pardon by President......Bush stood by him(support)

Scooter was all over the news....and he is out of site

Its just not a civil rights group, there are other examples as well

Michael Vick has just been suspended from the NFL.}:| I didn't think they would do that. I hope he has a B.A. or B.S. in something useful, instend of some bullshit like "Communications".

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Originally Posted by Ironman

Michael Vick has just been suspended from the NFL.}:| I didn't think they would do that. I hope he has a B.A. or B.S. in something useful, instend of some bullshit like "Communications".

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If he keeps and plays his money right he won't have to worry about that.:mmmyah:

Wow all this for the wellbeing of dogs lol. Bullshit. They just need another nigger to hang, and the higher he is the better. Let me ask all of you Vick Bashers a question. Who's life is more important? A dog's or a Human's... (Where is he going with this?) I'll tell you where I'm going with this! Paris motha fuckin Hilton was driving drunk! Putting PEOPLE'S!!!!! Lives at risk and her what happened to her? Nothing! Not ah damn thang! If that was Nate from Hill Crest Projects driving drunk and talkin shit to the cops that busted him AND THE JUDGE!!!! His ass would be under the jail! Hmmm how about another example of our fair and balanced system! lil Kim gets a year of hard time...that martha bitch gets a few months of what could be considered home away from home arrest! Lets go a little further! Hillary Duff? Her ass been fuckin up for a long time! Many charges against her including drugs! She wasn't damn crucified on TV every damn day! Get it right! What Vick did was wrong but he doesn't deserve to be public enemy number one!

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Originally Posted by Dick_Greyson

Wow all this for the wellbeing of dogs lol. Bullshit. They just need another nigger to hang, and the higher he is the better. Let me ask all of you Vick Bashers a question. Who's life is more important? A dog's or a Human's... (Where is he going with this?) I'll tell you where I'm going with this! Paris motha fuckin Hilton was driving drunk! Putting PEOPLE'S!!!!! Lives at risk and her what happened to her? Nothing! Not ah damn thang! If that was Nate from Hill Crest Projects driving drunk and talkin shit to the cops that busted him AND THE JUDGE!!!! His ass would be under the jail! Hmmm how about another example of our fair and balanced system! lil Kim gets a year of hard time...that martha bitch gets a few months of what could be considered home away from home arrest! Lets go a little further! Hillary Duff? Her ass been fuckin up for a long time! Many charges against her including drugs! She wasn't damn crucified on TV every damn day! Get it right! What Vick did was wrong but he doesn't deserve to be public enemy number one!

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I understood your comment, but the word NIGGER didn't have to be include

if your white and have black friends your insulting them

if your black, and your addressing your race like that, maybe you should of been beaten and hang from a tree

but you are your man, do what you feel like....

Martha Stewart's crime wasn't similar to Lil Kim's crime, and neither sentence had anything to do with race. I don't like hearing about Paris Hilton all the time, but she didn't kill or torture any people or animals. I think you got Lindsey Lohan mixed up with Hilary Duff. Those celebrity girls have been in the news a lot lately, and a lot of people are bashing them also, deservedly so.

Though, Micheal Vick tortured and killed a bunch of dogs, and he bet on dogs to fight to their death. I don't think he's public enemy number 1, and like I said, his bashing has nothing to do with his skin color. Not everything in this world has to do with skin color. If another high profile football player had been charged with the same crimes, and he was white, he would be getting bashed just as much as Vick. It looks like Vick is getting off easy, and might not even get much jail time. He's getting bashed cause he committed a serious crime, and he lied to the NFL commisioner and everybody else.

because fuck the snitched who told on him ( i dont agree with dogfighting tho dont get me wrong, i just dont agree with snitching- fags)

Check out Mumia's comments on Mike Vick... http://www.prisonradio.org/audio/mum...21-07VickB.mp3

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

Check out Mumia's comments on Mike Vick... http://www.prisonradio.org/audio/mum...21-07VickB.mp3

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Wow!! He makes alot of freaking sense. But Vick should have thought twice about fighting pitbulls.

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Originally Posted by Ironman

Wow!! He makes alot of freaking sense. But Vick should have thought twice about fighting pitbulls.

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He should have listened to his Father.

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Originally Posted by Emblem

I understood your comment, but the word NIGGER didn't have to be include

if your white and have black friends your insulting them

if your black, and your addressing your race like that, maybe you should of been beaten and hang from a tree

but you are your man, do what you feel like....

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Naw brah, I said it like that to get a point across. To white America Vick's another nigger. Not saying that I consider people of my own race to be niggers just throwing around a little sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by check two

Martha Stewart's crime wasn't similar to Lil Kim's crime, and neither sentence had anything to do with race. I don't like hearing about Paris Hilton all the time, but she didn't kill or torture any people or animals. I think you got Lindsey Lohan mixed up with Hilary Duff. Those celebrity girls have been in the news a lot lately, and a lot of people are bashing them also, deservedly so.

Though, Micheal Vick tortured and killed a bunch of dogs, and he bet on dogs to fight to their death. I don't think he's public enemy number 1, and like I said, his bashing has nothing to do with his skin color. Not everything in this world has to do with skin color. If another high profile football player had been charged with the same crimes, and he was white, he would be getting bashed just as much as Vick. It looks like Vick is getting off easy, and might not even get much jail time. He's getting bashed cause he committed a serious crime, and he lied to the NFL commisioner and everybody else.

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Yeah! Lohan thats the bitch! NEWAYS. I'm sorry guy but I'll have to disagree. Watch Fox News...Hell go on youtube and look up past episodes of fox news regarding vick's case. One ep had a panel of so called know-it-alls talking about the case and if race was a factor. One person was a vick supporter and he named numerious cases of cock fighting and dog fighting rings that were connected to various upper class white folk... << excuse the country drawl can't really help it due to the fact that i'm from georgia...(Georgia you say?) Yeah the good ol GA. Home of the Falcons. Neways I've personally witnessed my fair share of race related legal actions. Two guys are caught with drugs at my high school. One white one black. We never saw Rico again (the black guy) But Chan (the white fellow) Played football the next day. A friend of mine has sex with a white girl she's under age he's charged and we didn't see him until graduation. On the other hand a white guy (who i happen to be cool with) gets caught sexing his underaged girlfriend AT SCHOOL! Yep He played football the next week. So there's no way in hell you can convince me that race isn't an issue in this country or a factor in Vick's case.



Oh yeah and that Lohan girl got in trouble again...they ran the story for like 2 days. Then they did a follow up story about celebs getting off easy and made a reference to Paris...Lasted less than a week.

Oh yeah! (damn i just can't post this and leave huh?) Vick killed a bunch of dogs...White America killed a bunch of native Americans, took their land, bombed Japan, ignored the Jews (Holocaust!), placed embargos on Cuba, help to split Korea apart, supplied Iraq with chemical weapons then accused them of using the weapons, ignored damn near every major African conflict...I mean damn how inhuman can the U.S. Government be? Shouldn't they be the ones on trial instead of pointing fingers....Oh wait...3 more pointing right back at them.

Sorry for getting off topic...long day.

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Originally Posted by Dick_Greyson

Yeah! Lohan thats the bitch! NEWAYS. I'm sorry guy but I'll have to disagree. Watch Fox News...Hell go on youtube and look up past episodes of fox news regarding vick's case. One ep had a panel of so called know-it-alls talking about the case and if race was a factor. One person was a vick supporter and he named numerious cases of cock fighting and dog fighting rings that were connected to various upper class white folk... << excuse the country drawl can't really help it due to the fact that i'm from georgia...(Georgia you say?) Yeah the good ol GA. Home of the Falcons. Neways I've personally witnessed my fair share of race related legal actions. Two guys are caught with drugs at my high school. One white one black. We never saw Rico again (the black guy) But Chan (the white fellow) Played football the next day. A friend of mine has sex with a white girl she's under age he's charged and we didn't see him until graduation. On the other hand a white guy (who i happen to be cool with) gets caught sexing his underaged girlfriend AT SCHOOL! Yep He played football the next week. So there's no way in hell you can convince me that race isn't an issue in this country or a factor in Vick's case.



Oh yeah and that Lohan girl got in trouble again...they ran the story for like 2 days. Then they did a follow up story about celebs getting off easy and made a reference to Paris...Lasted less than a week.

Oh yeah! (damn i just can't post this and leave huh?) Vick killed a bunch of dogs...White America killed a bunch of native Americans, took their land, bombed Japan, ignored the Jews (Holocaust!), placed embargos on Cuba, help to split Korea apart, supplied Iraq with chemical weapons then accused them of using the weapons, ignored damn near every major African conflict...I mean damn how inhuman can the U.S. Government be? Shouldn't they be the ones on trial instead of pointing fingers....Oh wait...3 more pointing right back at them.
Sorry for getting off topic...long day.

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Actually they still give them millions per year, even built them a museum. By the way I miss GA. I lived in Marietta for 3yrs.

I didn't say that race isn't a factor in the US. I only said it's not a factor in the Vick case. I'm not trying to compare the Vick case to a bunch of other cases, and make excuses for him. He committed a felony crime, torturing and killing a bunch of dogs, and betting on their demise. I would expect people to be against what he did, and be bashing him. Is that not logical? Do you think he should not get any jail time? Do you think he should just be given a warning, a slap on the wrist? Vick couldn't even act like a man, and admit what he did. He only admitted he was guilty, when he saw there was no way he could win the case. The NFL is better off without people like Vick. They won't miss him. The Falcons won't miss him. He's an average passer, and way overpaid. Maybe he should grow up for once.

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Originally Posted by check two

I didn't say that race isn't a factor in the US. I only said it's not a factor in the Vick case. I'm not trying to compare the Vick case to a bunch of other cases, and make excuses for him. He committed a felony crime, torturing and killing a bunch of dogs, and betting on their demise. I would expect people to be against what he did, and be bashing him. Is that not logical? Do you think he should not get any jail time? Do you think he should just be given a warning, a slap on the wrist? Vick couldn't even act like a man, and admit what he did. He only admitted he was guilty, when he saw there was no way he could win the case. The NFL is better off without people like Vick. They won't miss him. The Falcons won't miss him. He's an average passer, and way overpaid. Maybe he should grow up for once.

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I think I'm gettin off a little. What I'm tryng to say is that lots of people take part in illegal activity white, black, whatever. But it appears that media sources like Fox News hype up criminal acts committed by African Americans...Primarily Hip Hop artist. I mean they found dead dogs at DMX's place and fox news has already decided that he's guilty without proof...a trial or anything. The anchor woman actually said that she hoped DMX is locked up forced to wear a pink prison uniform and a dog collar! come on...Comments made by the media towards these people, guilty or not, seem race related to me.

so your point is that racism exists (congratulations) and fox news sucks... well then welcome to america circa 2000 CE where information is controlled by a few media conglomerates whose sole reason for existence is to increase profits received mostly from other corporate advertisers. if news corp believes more people will read the ny post or watch fox news if they inject some subtle racism into the story then it's their obligation to their shareholders to do so.

that said i don't think the media circus surrounding this case would be any less ridiculous if it were peyton manning, as someone's already said, and anyone who does needs to take off the im-an-oppressed-black-man goggles.