If that's what you believe then I can't hate on that. I'm happy that you have faith. Just ocntinue to do what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
peace be unto you
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If that's what you believe then I can't hate on that. I'm happy that you have faith. Just ocntinue to do what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bad Man
peace be unto you
one thing, religion can never be blamed for war
its inanimate, mans mind state and greed is responsible for war, the quest for power will never end
oh, and I wanted to add something : the more obvious things seems to be, the more skeptical I am ... What seems to be obvious is far from being the truth, and very often that's a trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity tha God
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Originally Posted by WU-KILLAH
I'm not good with dates, but I do take good notes. When I get home let me hit you up with some details.
Before I answer your question, have you read this book?
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/08...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I'm not good with dates, but I do take good notes. When I get home let me hit you up with some details.
Before I answer your question, have you read this book?
If so then you'll know what my views are because I share very similar views with her on the entire spectrum of race and projected deficiencies (fear and hate). If not here we go:
I believe in what I stated earlier and I believe that projected deficiencies, hate, fear, and abandonment has been projected on people of color. Now I am not saying that white people are the devil, because history can say that for me (no offense intended cause I don’t hate melanin deficient people). I feel that people of color have the obligation to know our origins so we can retrace our steps back to our original benevolence. We need to listen to our hearts minds and souls to become free. Free from drugs, crime, lies, deceit, greed, hate, violence, and all of these things that bind our souls. Once we gain our freedom we can then press on to be a great people as a whole, and I mean all people of the world. But these are dreams of mines like Dr. King.
To completely answer your question I feel that evil is evil and bad is bad. I don’t care who does it.
I can see myself about to ramble so let me cut it short, but one more thing:
Most of the time I suppress myself from sharing such views except for people that I feel that I can build with on a positive note, because I know that a lot of people have thin skin. I feel a bit more freedom to share this in this forum due to the fact that I hope people will share their ideas as well. I’m looking forward to coming back with my info so we can build though.
Take it easy
mmmm
i dunno where to start..
Peace!
big boss.. the cross u speak of.. whats the meaning of it? not to u.. but to the people who put the cross tgheir as a symbol of catholicism?
to bosstone.. says devils was animals.. (which they are. as their are many animals who have devil in their name) what sort of species would they be... or are they..
to stays high.. ill hit u up on msgs soon
Peace.
From my understanding of the original post this thread is about organized religion not peoples personal beliefs, people get too defensive, I'm not posting anymore because its a waste of time. Why do Christians, Muslims, Jews, or whoever close their minds to learn from different experiences? it will only broaden your knowledge of the world, you don't have to co-sign w/ it but it'll give you a better understanding of where other people are coming from. I try to learn from and respect everyone but all of you are argueing over who's right and not building and I don't have the patience...peace
Nah man, as much as I believe in my own beliefs I understand people have theirs also, n I know people like Blackwisdom n shit come in peace and are good hearted, intelligent people so theres no harm in sharing opinions as long as its in relation to the point of a thread. I do get mad defensive over being labelled certain shit, but thats obvious. I come fae a place torn apart coz of religious sectarianism so believe me, some verbal exchanges over the net are harmless compared to what goes on outside. N if I were to just sit back and take it, Id be a weak man in my opinion. Fuck whos right, we all right in our own minds. But theres defo certain shit we can build on. Be patient young grasshopper.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7ess
Soul Boss, you can answer that 1 yoself man, why ask me?
Peace.
Appreciated.
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I comend you for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by blackwisdom
I believe in God...I dont have a religion...I just do what God says, thats my way of life.
And b.c so Im a better person.
Your parents tell you shit to control you...but when youre mature, youre glad, because they made you mature.
Because of the Lord Most High, I am who I am, and I fear evil...I never had a fear of evil things until I learned about the Lord.
The truth is hard to know, but I know God is truth, because it is just.
Think about it, God didnt give us a whole list of rules until we simply didnt listen to one...bit into the tree of knowledge. Now Im sure some1 might say thats an excuse for keeping us ignorant, but I see it like this.
A baby loses its innocence and starts doing corrupt shit when he learns too much about the corrupt shit going on around him. Lust, greed, etc Im sure are acquired...
I know my thoughts are abstract but basically simple and plain...sometimes you can adulterate yourself with knowledge and truth, it can even drive you crazy.
Not saying be ignorant, b.c thats the absolute worse thing you can do to yourself. Ima just put it like this...
Seek wisdom, not knowledge
thoughtful post...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennings
just 2 say tho... seeking knowledge is the root for wisdom to grow mature
peace
Truth, you're perfectly right I cant disagree at all...I was just saying there are so many people that "know" so much, but are still foolish...when it is better to have only a handful of facts and be like the old owlQuote:
Originally Posted by Princerai
peace
Why ppl are getting on soul-controllers case I'll never know ....
PEACE BRUH.....I JUST WANT TO EXCLUDE PROPHET MUHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM BECAUSE HE DIDNT DIE FOR MANKINDS SINS AND HE WAS NOT A SAVIOUR OR A GOD....Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
bUT THE REST....I HAVE COME ACROSS....dIYING AND RISING GODS HAVE BEEN KNOW FOR A TIME NOW....
MYTHRA IS ONE OF THEM
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The Christian Church is a farce founded on a fantasy. If anyone requires confirmationof how easy it is for the few to control the masses, they need look no further than thebillions of people who have worshipped the fairy tales peddled these past 2,000 years by men in long frocks. And what goes for Christianity goes for the rest of them, nJudaism, Islam, Hinduism and all the rest. These religions were created by the same force to achieve the same effect and, therefore, the saviour-god myths throughout the ancient world have an identical gameplan:1 You are born with original sin and so you are an unworthy piece of shit from the day you arrive on the planet. 2 You can only be saved by believing in the ‘Saviour’ and that means doing what the priesthood tell you to do. 3 If you don’t do that, you will be condemned to the bowels of hell forever. What guilt and terror this has created over thousands of years.
ORIGINAL SIN ISN'T FROM ISLAM.....ITS FROM THE BIBLE.....WHICH IS THE INCORPORATION OF MAN.....BECAUSE THEY SAY WE'RE BORN IN SIN BUT YET JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS....WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION.....ALLAH DOSN'T CONTRADICT.....WHICH CLEARLY SHOW THE BIBLE HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH, THEREFORE IT CEASES TO FROM ALLAH.....
IM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS CONCEPT I CAN VERIFY THAT THIS IS CORRECT TO MY KNOWLEDGEQuote:
All but a few of those ‘sons of God’ or ‘prophets’ ( i named earlier), and the mind-prison religions founded in their names, come from the very lands occupied or influenced by peoples emerging from the Near East and the Caucasus. The lands of the Aryans and reptile-Aryans. Other ‘sons of God’ included Mithra or Mithras, the pre-Christian Roman-Persian god, and in Greece and Asia Minor they had Dionysus and Bacchus. These were sons of God who died so our sins could be forgiven, born of a virgin mother, and their birthdays were on... December 25th! Mithra was crucified, but raised from the dead on March 25th - Easter! Mithran initiations took place in caves adorned with the signs of Capricorn and Cancer, symbolic of the winter
and summer solstices, the high and low points of the Sun. Mithra was often portrayed as a winged lion, a symbol for the Sun still used by the secret societies today. References to the lion and the ‘grip of the lion’s paw’ in the Master Mason Degree of Freemasonry originate with this same stream of mystery school symbolism. Initiates into the rites ofliThe first degree initiates had a golden crown placed on their heads, representing theirs piritual self, and this crown, symbolising the rays of the sun, can be found on the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbour. All these rituals went back thousands of yearsto Babylon and the stories of Nimrod, Queen Semiramis, and Tammuz, their version of Jesus. Mithra was said to be the son (Sun) of god who died to save humanity and give them eternal life. One classic symbol of Mithra was as a lion with a snake curled around his body, while he holds the keys to heaven. This is more Nimrod symbolism and the origin of the story of St Peter, one of Jesus’ 12 disciples, holding the keys to heaven.Peter was the name of the High Priest in the Babylon mystery school. After an initiateof the Mithran cult had completed the ritual, the members had a meal of bread and wine in which they believed they were eating the flesh of Mithra and drinking his blood.at his birth who brought him gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. The same was said by Plato of his teacher, Socrates, in ancient Greece. Christianity is a Pagan sun religion,the worship of which is condemned by Christianity! It is also an astrology religion, the ‘evil’ of which is condemned by Christianity, not least by the Pope!,it’s mad down here. The church hierarchy, of course, know all this. They just don’t wantyou to know. The mystery cult of Mithra spread from Persia to the Roman Empire at one point this doctrine could be found in almost every part of Europe. The present site of the Vatican in Rome was a sacred place for the followers of Mithra, and hisimage and symbols have been found cut into rocks and stone tablets throughout the western provinces of the former Roman domain, including Germany, France andBritain. Christianity and the Roman Church were based on the Persian-Roman Sun god called Mithra (Nimrod), who has an earlier equivalent in India called Mitra. Tammuz or Adonis (Lord), who was revered in Babylonia and Syria, was said to have been born at midnight on December 24th. These were also ‘sons’ of God.horus was the son god of egypt, he was derived from the babalonian Tammuz and, in turn, provided another blueprint for the later Jesus. Theconnections are devastating for the credibility of the Christian Church: Jesus wasthe Light of the World. Horus was the Light of the World. Jesus said he was theway, the truth and the life. Horus said he was the truth, the life. Jesus was born inBethlehem, the ‘house of bread’. Horus was born in Annu, the ‘place of bread’. Jesus was the Good Shepherd. Horus was the Good Shepherd. Seven fishers board aboat with Jesus. Seven people board a boat with Horus. Jesus was the lamb. Horus was the lamb. Jesus is identified with a cross. Horus is identified with a cross. Jesus was baptised at 30. Horus was baptised at 30. Jesus was the child of a virgin, Mary.Horus was the child of a virgin, Isis. The birth of Jesus was marked by a star. The birthof Horus was marked by a star. Jesus was the child teacher in the temple. Horuswas the child teacher in the temple. Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers.Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star. Jesus was the Christ. Horuswas the Krst. Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountian by set3Jesus is said to be the ‘judge of the dead’. He has some competition there. This was Also said of the earlier Nimrod, Khrishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Laokiun,Bacchus, Zeus and others. Jesus is claimed to have performed miracles such as healing the sick and raising people from the dead. So did Khrishna, Buddha, Zoroaster,Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others. Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others. Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun or tsze,confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur,Quetzalcoatl and far too many others to mention. Jesus will, we are told, be bornagain. The sky is going to be rather crowded because Khrishna, Vishnu, Buddha,Quetzalcoatl and others, will also be there. The ‘star’ at the birth of Jesus is another multideity story and goes back at least to theBabylonian tale of Nimrod who, in a dream, saw a brilliant star rising above the horizon(horus). The soothsayers told him that this recycling. foretoldhe birth of a child who would become a great prince. It’s all Jesus is a myth man.
The invented character of Jesus was a Sun god, symbolic of
God’s ‘Sun’... The Light of the World. This very phrase, Light of the World, was used by the Aryan-Phoenicians to symbolise the ‘one true god’ thousands of years before the alleged birth of Abraham, thequite wrongly named creator of the one-god concept
peace
HOW HAS MAN MADE? GODHAS THE WORLD IMPROVED SOMEHOW WITH GOD....HAS SCIENCE IMPROVED THE WORLD SOME HOW....Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
HAS KNOWING ALL THE KNOWLEDGE ON EARTH ABOUT SELF IMPROVED THE WORLD SOME HOW....?
BECUASE AINT NUIN IMPROVED OVER HERE, INFACT THE ONLY PPL REALLY CLINGING ON TO THEIR NATUREL STATE OF BEING A HUMANIS THOSE WHO FOLLW ISLAM IN ITS PURIST FORM....THE ADHERENTS OF THE QURAAN AND SUNNAH.....
HOW DID THE KHAMETIANS GO ABOUT CREATING RELIGION AND WHAT WAS THE FIRST RELIGION CALLED?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwisdom
And exactly what do you mean by "The Aryan Race"?Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
AS WELL AS CREATING YOUR OWN PHILOSPHY, WOULDNT YOU ALSO BE CREATING YOUR OWN RELIGION.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Princerai
BY DOING WHAT YOU MENTIONED....WOULD THAT MAKE YOU FREE FROM CONTROL, WOULD THIS MEAN YOU GOVERN YOUR OWN DESTINY, WOULD IT MEAN YOU CAN DELY YOUR TIME OF DEATH WHEN IT APPROACHES....?
HOW WOULD ACKNOWLEDGING AS MUCH KNOWLEDGE AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES BENIFIT US AFTER WE DIE....?
IS KNOWLEDGE OF THE AFTER LIFE TO ACKLOWLEDGE AS WELL....?
what in the fuck lol
a religion is different from a philosophy..Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaK FuRYaN
when i talk about flaws of religion i tried to emphasise on how the media AND various scholars teach religion and expose in a negative light..
u know my personal religion is ISLAM .. howver when u go out and learn other religions.. u unlock islam furthermore..
eevr thought how yin n yang is apparent in islam?
how the idea of buddhist enlightenment is apparent in islamic afterlife?
i didnt need someone to tell me these things.. i found out myself.. and by doing that u understand what u learned much more..
i dont want to be told how by blowing myself up..i am helping my brothers and sisters truly in Gods eyes..
i see islam from another peaceful light and want to put shades to that that makes islam a religgion of hate and confusion as potrayed by many ideologies..
peace n blessingz
I hear what your saying....Quote:
Originally Posted by Princerai
There are scholars in Islam that will be accoutable for missleading allot of devout believers....
From a media perspective.....There was a muslim on the islamic channal today....telling muslims they need to vote....and involve themselves with the government....whic goes completely againt islam....
So she's projecting the wrong message to people which is not right....
I also want to show ppl in here that Islam is not confusing....also to clear misconceptions perpetuated by media and soaked in by the receptive masses....
word blak.. i know n sympathise..
dats why i wanna show islam is a religion which encourages every1 to learn from others to elevate one self
i do dat by being liebral yet also defensive totally to Allah
I've yet to finish reading the Quran, where does it say that people should not get involved w/ politics? I trust in God and believe in the Quran but God would be wise enough to know that wether you're involved or not, polltics is definetly going to get envolved w/ you. peace.
Peace,
This is a brilliant thread, as organized religion is much more divisive than it is unifying, as history teaches. Instead of focusing on that which makes all of us different, why not focus on our common ground?
nowhere does it say u shouldnt get involved in politics... but religion must not be mixed with politics.. the results are the ones u see in the world..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Unseen
^^^WORD
i want to tell u all sumtin
my lil bro goes to a church youth group aight an im muslim, so i was pickin him up one night an he tells me islam is a bad religon tells u to kill infadels, I have almost finished reading the Quran an it hasn't said that..........
well thats what many religious groups that are uncontrolled say to their followers.. "hate this hate that.."Quote:
Originally Posted by N.I.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. G
espacially the hate is directed to religions..
real religion does not preach hate ever..
islam itself has a meaning of peace..
any group that preaches hate has roots of bitterness.. just stay away from it.. religion shouldt make anybody become a bad radical person.. but a peaceful soul..
teach ur bro what u see
but thats my point, why would a church falsify a religons true meanings..........
I LIVE IN LONDON....AND THEIR GOVERNMENT HAS LIKE 3-4 PARTIES FOR THE MASSES TO VOTE FOR...SOME MAY MP's MAYBE OFFERING TO HELP STOP THE WAR ON MUSLIMS IN IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN...BUT THEY WELCOM GAY/SODOMITE MARIAGES....Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Unseen
MAN GOING INTO MAN IS AN ABORATION AND NOT PERMISSABLE IN ISLAM....
SO FOR A MUSLIM TO VOTE FOR THESE POLITICAL PARTIES IS WHAT IS CALLED "SHEIRK"
WHICH MEANS TO ASSOCIATE PARTNERS WITH ALLAH....THIS IS A MAJOR SIN WHICH WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN AND IS MENTIONED THROUGH OUT THE QURAAN...
A MUSLIM WHO VOTES FOR A POLITICAL PARTY IS BASICALLY SAYING
"I PUT MY LIFE IN THIS MANS HANDS AND I SUPPORT WHAT HES FIGHTING FOR"
INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEIR TRUST IN ALLAH....
THIS IS WHAT I MEANT BY GETTING INVOLVED IN POLITRICKS AND VOTING....
WHO EVER ALLAH CHOOSES TO LEAD ASTRAY, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT THEM BACK ON THE STRAIGHT PATH....Quote:
Originally Posted by N.I.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. G
ONLY CORRUPT SHEIKHS AND SCHOLARS IN ISLAM WOULD PREACH HATE TOWARDS OTHER RELIGIONS AND THEY WILL DEFFINATELY BE BROUGHT TO ACCOUNT....
INFACT, LIKE MYSELF, YOU WOULD PROBABLY LEARN MORE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY THROUGH ISLAM THEN A CHRISTIAN HIM/HERSELF........
peace..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.I.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. G
2 be honest.. not all churches do that.. its just some groups that are igmnorant and dont know islam..
u see.. keep away from those who dont know what they are talkin about..
u as u have..read the quran and unlock the knowledge for urself..
show it 2 ur bro and show him the way in an unbiased way...
peace n blessingz
i agree alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by BlaK FuRYaN
16 crucified saviours...christianity before christ...
http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/libr...saviours-1.htm
I'm guessing that your talking about christ. But I'm gonna look at through allah's eyes.
The way I see it is that through Allah you can do anything through the wisdom of yourself. Believing in one's self as the ruler. Now with that in mind you gotta remember that allah is from asia and his teaching spread but didn't get to the united states cause of the 85% trying to cover up the truth. So the 85% who came from europe first, realized the truth and made up their OWN version of what they believed (jesus christ) which in truth is really just an abstract idealism of Allah but rather than give credit to him. American's such as many races' (not pointing any fingers) believe that Jesus is king. when in fact, that's just believe to take away from self wisdom through self knowledge of allah.
I can keep going but I'm not gonna get to into it right now. I just realized this while listening to Wu forever and it hit me hard. Shit's crazy peace..
God is from Asia?
rofl...shut up.
I ain't talking about God as a supreme. To call one man supreme (unless your talk'n about self wisdom and self realization through knowlege) above another is foolish. I mean Allah (the teacher of this self knowledge) just showing the way that through self wisdom and self knowledge you can do all things. Not God. Cause God is unknown and what you dont know you can't proclaim.Quote:
Originally Posted by CELL