canibus will be the only mc in hip hop history to never lose his skills and fall off
canibus will be the only mc in hip hop history to never lose his skills and fall off
Agree about Kweli, Common, Mos Def and Lupe.
Big L was generally a dope rapper, but some of his verses were absolutely fucken terrible.
A lot of MF Doom's lyrics are fucken atrocious, since he discovered multies and started abusing the shit out of them. He's a pretty bad rapper all in all actually.
Pretty much all dead mc's and producers are hugely overrated.
Good thread.
Wu Tang is for the (white) children.
everything jay-z put out after the carter series was wack.
everything lil wayne came out with after his first carter is wack
nas is overrated
ice water is dope
eminem has been garbage for so long
immortal technique's "radical" political views represents the average rebellious teenage girl, his flow sucks and he needs a new job
atmosphere is for fags
kanye's only got a handful of good beats and his rapping sucks
t-pain, MIA, rihanna and all these obnoxious fucks being featured in hip hop should have been killed a long time ago
preppy and/or emo rappers like asther roth, sage francis, slug etc. shouldn't be allowed in any rap booth
im canadian and i have to say drake is shit, yes, he is better than lil wayne but he completely steals his style
GCP's two albums are better than 85% of American hiphop
swagger is the fucking gayest word to come into hip hop
any man who plays R&B without a girl present is a fag
ghostface is on some hypocrite shit making a rap and bullshit album
half of the members in wu-tang don't even deserve their spot in comparison to some of the affiliates skills
max b and jim jones are two of the wackest rappers to ever touch a mic
q-tip is wack regardless of ATCQ
if you like charles hamilton, you're a fag
mf doom is a loser and he shouldn't do anything but be mf grimm's beat slave
lupe fiasco sucks
bone thugs need to stop trying to come back
8 diagrams isn't even coaster-worthy
and your favourite rapper probably sucks ass
^pretty on point besides the q-tip doom and 8d thoughts imo.
If you don't listen to r & b because of your homophobia and sexual insecurity, you're white.
Or in the closet.
LMAO, you need to stop accusing people of being gayQuote:
Originally Posted by YungSunny
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73623
everyone already knows you're a homo, haha.
Wu will never be popular again, especially because of slang prostitution
the minstrel show is a classic
guilty simpson is hot garbage
9th wonder should only produce a whole album if ur name is MURS
MURS should only make another album if his producer is 9th wonder
royce da 5'9 is kinda gettin a lil commercial
niggas should realize that sayin ur wu or having a song with cappadonna does not make u wu
niggas should realize that sayin ur wu will not help u sell records anymore
wu fell off and not coming back
Old ass rappers should stop rapping retire please
90% of the underground is like 90% of the mainstream full of garbage.
Wu tang should have left the like 70% of the wu affiliates where they found them
this and mic tyson's murs one are so on pointQuote:
Originally Posted by staycreepin_n_silence
you see murs now? his newest video he got the dumbest haircut ever and he is making out with roxy reynolds who has taken more nuts to the face than any video vixen he could have used.
damn yo, I appreciate you givin me the props with the thread but Im just scratchin my head with the bolded.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
in my opinion, Big L is the only rapper EVER to never slip on one track. he never spat a wack verse in his life. yes, I'd say if he lived to sign to the ROC, he wouldve then made shit verses but he was underground his whole active career and he kept it fresh. which verses do you think were terrible? just curious.
and I love how everyone is fucking up lupe. garbage ass rapper shouldve stuck to skateboarding.
if it wasnt for r&b there would be no rap you canadian faggitQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonD
if big l, big pun, biggie or 2pac stayed alive, jay-z wouldnt of had any room for fame in the rap game...plz believe it
lol thats what im sayin his newest album was whatever. he was tryin to get commercialQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonD
you're a fucking retard obviously I mean contemporary R&B you stupid douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
the term "contemporary r&b" is just as retarded if not MORE retarded than the term "neo soul"..... stop puttin labels on shit u canadian fruit
you are so ridiculously stupid, it is INSANE. LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
contemporary means modern you fucking retard.
really??!???! is that what it means??!?!?! oh my god for all these years i have never known what the word contemporary means, gee jason thanks for droppin that profound science on my domeQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonD
faggit
maybe biggie and pac but not L and pun. Hov was already made when L died and hard knock life won the grammy over capital punishment in '99. not sayin that was iight cause CP was 10x better than Vol. 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
true true but i dont think he would be held in the same regard that he is now.... definitely wouldnt of gained legendary status but thats jus my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
2 of mine are:
i dont think 50's lost a real beef hes been in. game coulda won, but got waaaaay too emotional and started making whole mixtape albums dedicated to 50.
and jay-z was the better in his beef with nas.
Quote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
BUAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!
Drake is the best newcomer of 2009 so far.. We'll see what Wale has in store but IDK about his 'chillin' single..
This thread is one of the largest congregations of imbeciles on the internet to date.
Ghostface occasionally uses a ghostwriter for singles and guest appearances
Hip hop would still be hip hop if Dre had retired after his Deathrow days
Master P and Jay-z are the rapper/hustler archetype
Biggie's success can be directly attributed to Puffy's marketing. Big didn't even like Big Poppa. Also Life after Death was Puffy's vision and not Biggie's, according to Puff...months before he died
Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, and Kool G Rap are still dope
Pac mastered the sensitive thug routine
EPMD is garbage
De La Soul and Tribe Called Quest have some classic songs, but in general I think they're wack
Modern day Down South music is sambo-ish. This obviously excludes Outkast, Goodie Mob, Dungeon Family in general, Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Scarface, Devin the Dude, UGK, BG aka B Gizzle, T.I., Mystikal, C Murder, MAC, Fiend, Mr. Magic, Mia X, Big Ed, Ludacris, etc
Your favorite rapper/producer has a rapper/producer B. It's part of the business. It's not about not being able to write music, it's about being able to meet deadlines for labels and create radio songs. Yes this applies to Ghostface, Eminem, Ludacris, Ol Dirty Bastard, etc
Guru, Saigon, Papoose, Corey Gunz, Asher Roth get far too much respect for being mediocore at best
Twista should be considered one of the greatest MCs. At least top 50
Power of the Dollar is actually a dope record
Beastie Boys are worst to ever claim to be hip hop
La the Darkman does coke rap better than everyone else, except Raekwon
the Clipse are crack heads
Hip Hop needs to grow up and go back to it's more diverse roots on the radio. Gangsta Rap, reality rap, down south, midwest all have their place. Everyone doesn't have to sound the same.
Underground rappers are just as bad as commercial rappers
Coming into the love the game is naive
No Limit actually had some real spitters - Mia X, MAC, Big Ed, C Murder, and Magic could out do their coastal counterparts
RZA and Kanye's egos are out of control
Busta Rhymes seems like the most untrustworthy person ever to claim to be "real." That nigga is a snake
Eminem has nothing else to rap about anymore unless it's about Big Proof's death
In the larger community: Chino XL, Killah Priest, Tech N9ne, Twista, Xzibit, RA the Rugged Man, Big Pun, Cormega, Sticky Fingaz, Hell Razah, Prodigal Sunn are criminally underrated
Fabolous is the dopest punch line rapper that's selling records
Ras Kass and Joe Budden failed at mainstream success. They are their dopest on mixtapes and that's it.
Dipset is generally horrible...except for the beatmakers and Cam'Ron
Before Roc-A-Fella, Cam'Ron was dope. Crime Pays looks like a return to form
Prodigy is dope on everything except Blood Money
Capone and Nore are boring as fuck together
Ice Water's and Northstar's debut records were solid efforts
Free Murda has his moments, but his album was bootsie
MF Doom is criminally overrated
RZA's new style fits RZA's personality
Pete Rock gets respect, but should get a lot more
Heltah Skeltah's DIRT captured everything missing in Hardcore East Coast Rap
There's just too many...
The Cold Vein SUCKS
^dont worry guys he's from australia....
ok, so 1 beat in 10 years makes him amazing huh ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogah
i probably do need to listen to more stuff, but i'm really not feeling his beats, theres a couple of things i've herad that i like, but not much, probably not even an albums worth, sorry if it upsets anyone, but i dont dig his style...Quote:
Originally Posted by iammzac
i listen to hip hop because theres more to it than fucking Dilla & Mos Def.....infact.....did i say anything against Mos Def ?? cant remember.......dont think i did though.......so that knocks it down to Dilla........i believe you're whats known as "brainwashed", **i dont like Dilla, therefore i should'nt listen to hip hop ??** are you on crack or something ?? and yes i enjoy Asher Roths music, its fun, lighthearted & entertaining.....Quote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
oh yeah, and fuck you too cum sponge
It's hard for me to name specific tracks. Reason being that I noticed it on a mixtape named Harlem's Finest. There's a lot of untitled verses and shit on it, and some of them are rubbish. I'd have to go through it all again to name which ones, which I don't really want to do. One verse which I can name is his second verse in Shyheim's Furious Anger. One of the worst verses I've ever heard. It's Islord bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
Word.Quote:
Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, and Kool G Rap are still dope
Most outlandish comments yet, but opinions are opinions.Quote:
EPMD is garbage
De La Soul and Tribe Called Quest have some classic songs, but in general I think they're wack
Word.Quote:
Underground rappers are just as bad as commercial rappers
90% of hip hop fans and mc's themselves don't know what a similie is, and call them metaphors instead.
All that similie, punchline, multi based shit that there's so much of these days is embarrassing garbage, and hurts hip hop just as much as all those hip pop faggots.
K-Rino is the most slept on mc in the history of hip hop, has been around for about 20 years consistently penning pretty much the best lyrics in hip hop, actually improving with age, and dropping shitloads of good albums.
Most rappers who try to get deep and especially political, or just generally try to sound smart, are transparently fake as fuck and embarrassingly pathetic.
Jus Allah is pretty much garbage. Vinnie Paz is one of the stupidest, simple cunts to ever grab a mic.
By far the best work Scarface ever did can be found on the first 3 Geto Boys albums, and his first 3 solo albums. Yet all these clowns who rave about how great he is haven't even heard most those albums, but only his later solos, which are ordinary.
If you read Canibus' lyrics on paper you'll find that an awful lot of his "rhymes" really don't rhyme at all.
If you're impressed by rappers "dropping knowledge" then for God's sake stop wasting your time playing video games and watching tv, and read a fucking book.
If you're white and you ever use 5% terminology seriously, then please fucking kill yourself.
jus allah runs shit, during violent by design era he had enough charisma for 10 rappers... he said the only reason vbd was classic was because he was on it...and i agree with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by noel411
Jay-z has bitten way too many lyrics in his career for me to respect him as an artist
Kanye West is under-rated as a producer but should get off the fuckin ego trip and put the mic down forever
Hip-hop in general has become too fuckin compartmentalized and needs to get back to where a lot of different styles could co-exist comfortably. Modern fans seem to pigeon-hole themselves rather easily. "fuck that shit, I'm gangsta!!!" whatever you say.
regarding Lupe Fiasco, to be honest I never heard anyone rating lupe fiasco at all lol ... so I dunno how he can be overratedQuote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
about Rakim ... yes, I also think he's disturbingly overrated ... "god MC" lol
the difference between you and me regarding Rakim is that I totally respect him, I just think there's a Kool G Rap and a Big Daddy Kane out there that deserve at least the same amount of praise as Rakim does ... if you ask me I'll say BDK is a bit better than both of them
The Cold Vein is one of the best albums ever in every genre, having everything and IMO is slightly better than Illmatic, OB4CL and so on... [my unpopular opinion]Quote:
Originally Posted by DJMethods
best post in ages. everybody who's listening to Killah Priest and KRS-One, plz get this post tattooed on your forehead, all caps.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
I really enjoyed Young Jeezy's album last year
I think Talib Kweli, old Mos Def and old Common are dope as hell
Both underground and commercial hip-hop are both dope, i dont really understand people who only listen to one
Sometimes i find ATCQ to be boring
Imo De La Soul > ATCQ
I havent listened to Wu in a long time
:iQuote:
Originally Posted by Durag
Hip hop lyrics (especially since 92) in general suck and aren't worth listening to.
"Time to Make a Movie" > "The Bridge is Over"
50 Cent > Cam'ron, especially diss-wise.
Any rap jam before "The Message" is better and more fun than your favorite song last ten years.
DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Dr. Dre and Marley Marl are all better than RZA.
If you use piano loops in production, it's very probable that they're wack and that you're a wack producer. You're not 4th Disciple, learn to live with it.
Modern hip-hop lack bass. Okay, that isn't opinion, that's a fact, yet it's unpopular again.
Among currently active beatmakers only Mike Dean knows how to use 808.
Afrocentricity is THE MOST destructive movement in hip-hop.
Big Daddy Kane is THE MOST overrated rapper in the world.
Most of beats on "Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous" suck.
"Moment of Truth" and all other beats Premier made in '98 are the worst beats he ever did.
Madlib is critically overrated.
Eminem is the greatest rapper alive.
Asher Roth is the worst rapper alive.
RZA started being wack arfter he ceased making any beats for non-Wu artists, that fucking faggot.
OB4CL2 is gonna SUCK.
Fishscale is the best Ghostface album.
Busta Rhymes is lyrically wack rapper, and the only think that made him good was his energy and craze on the mic. Since he gave up both, he's now just a wack rapper.
- Warcloud, Wisemen and Allmighty suck
- Bronze Nazareth is waaay overrated and lacks versatility
- "8 Diagrams" is a classic and the third best WU-TANG album
- All Generals are basically getting better and better with time
- Official US Underground Hip Hop sucks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim T
I dissagre with a lot of your comments, but the beats on "Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous" wack? I know their not to everyone's taste, but i love those hard dark D.I.T.C beats, beatwise that album is damn near 10/10 for me.
Agree with the shit before "The Message" though. In fact "The Message" is easily one of the greatest hip-hop tracks ever, and every track that deals with those issues since owes something to it.
Premo is better than RZA, and id say Pete Rock, Marley and Dre could be too.
OB4CL2 is DEFINITLY gonna suck.
Disagree on Eminem.