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10-12-2009, 05:06 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

yes ones self can
regardless - would you agree that jesus does absolutely nothing here on earth for us that one cannot will oneself to do?

umm Jesus does nothing on earth to help man recieve eternal life... what is in the new testement.????..without the teachings of JESUS and the sacrifice he made on the cross ...man could not recieve eternal life...dont you think thats somthing he did here on earth ????

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

and another question -
do you think jesus is more concerned/ narcissistic about himself than he is about righteousness?
do you think he would frown upon a righteous and universally-loving person who disbelieves in him more than a believer of him who sins?

to tell you the truth I don`t know if righteous people who dont believe in JESUS will go to heaven ... but my personal opinion is you cant truly be righteous without believing in JESUS and his teachings... also JESUS said "not all who call him lord lord will go to heaven" so Jesus forwarned us there will be fake christians (he even said that those people will do miricales and still wont be able to get into heaven) so those people who sin and claim to believe in Jesus aren`t really his followers and are no better that the heathen or maybe even worse because they know the truth and still disobeyed.

peace be with you !
10-12-2009, 05:26 PM
Visionz

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

look maybe some books are a bit expensive but what is the differance between shelling out $85 for a religious book (that may in fact help the person) or a dan brown novel (which is a load of garbage) non religious books are just as expensive if not more expensive...off course these preachers want to turn a profit just like any viable business wants to do... It`s up to the viewer or congregation if they would like to purchase the material on offer there not forced to...the price of the material doesn`t automatically show a lack of humility or greed !!!! also we dont know how much It cost to manufacture the book or the other religious material and you can`t be sure that the price doesn`t reflect the cost.

really stop judging visionz and just concern yourself with the things of GOD.

peace be with you !

see look at you talking out the side of your neck without actually LOOKING at what I'm talking about. That's your problem homeboy, you come in here so fucking sure of yourself that you don't even feel the need to take a look at what's actually being presented.

First of all its a DVD.......of him TALKING. I know how much blank DVDs cost, I know the more you buy at once the cheaper they get. on and on, get the fuck outta here with your naive ass think that every one that gets behind a pulpit is doing it for the right reasons.

$85 dollar for a motherfucking DVD of a dude talking is outrageously excessive any way you look at it.......that is unless your eyes have been plucked out and you're completely devoid of your god-given sense.

Humans, this planet, all things of God's creation so go fuck yourself with your hear no evil, see no evil ass wantin to play apologist for every wolf carrying a cross.
10-12-2009, 05:34 PM
zooruka

maybe it is expensive for a dvd but thats one example also thats what the preacher or lecturer has decided to sell it for...whether thats fair or not is not up to you to decide..if you dont want to buy it dont buy it, if you do then buy it....like I said GOD will judge everyone and will decide if the person acted ethically or not.... but for you to get on your high horse and start judging everyone is somthing GOD himself would not approve of.

peace be with you !
10-12-2009, 05:40 PM
Visionz

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

maybe it is expensive for a dvd but thats one example also thats what the preacher or lecturer has decided to sell it for...whether thats fair or not is not up to you to decide..if you dont want to buy it dont buy it, if you do then buy it....like I said GOD will judge everyone and will decide if the person acted ethically or not.... but for you to get on your high horse and start judging everyone is somthing GOD himself would not approve of.

peace be with you !

:list:

but the Quran is the work of the devil right?
advocating the murdering of christians, whether that's right or wrong its not for you to decide, right?? GOD himself would not approve.
10-12-2009, 05:49 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Visionz

:list:

but the Quran is the work of the devil right?
advocating the murdering of christians, whether that's right or wrong its not for you to decide, right?? GOD himself would not approve.

we are not to judge a persons motives but we are to judge a persons fruit (actions) with the word of GOD to make sure it is not contrary to the word of GOD and the teachings of JESUS CHRIST.

romans 16-17- "mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine you have learned and avoid them"

:cheerlie:

peace be with you !
10-12-2009, 06:03 PM
Visionz

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

we are not to judge a persons motives but we are to judge a persons fruit (actions) with the word of GOD to make sure it is not contrary to the word of GOD and the teachings of JESUS CHRIST.

romans 16-17- "mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine you have learned and avoid them"

:cheerlie:

peace be with you !

selling a DVD for $85 is an action. What you're really saying is don't judge someone............as long as they call themselves christian. :thumbdwn:

Mt 21:13 And (He) said unto them: It is written "My house shall be called the house of Prayer but ye have made it into a den of thieves
10-12-2009, 06:36 PM
zooruka

romans 16-17- "mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine you have learned and avoid them"

this is talking about islam.
10-12-2009, 06:43 PM
Visionz

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Originally Posted by Visionz

selling a DVD for $85 is an action. What you're really saying is don't judge someone............as long as they call themselves christian. :thumbdwn:

Mt 21:13 And (He) said unto them: It is written "My house shall be called the house of Prayer but ye have made it into a den of thieves

this is talking about bloodsuckers in church

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

romans 16-17- "mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine you have learned and avoid them"

this is talking about islam.

oh really??? and when was that written? You know Islam came around about 500 years after the historical Jesus right??
10-12-2009, 07:40 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Visionz

oh really??? and when was that written? You know Islam came around about 500 years after the historical Jesus right??

it is wisdom for the ages.

it applies just as much today as it did back then.

peace be with you !
10-12-2009, 07:55 PM
Visionz

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

it is wisdom for the ages.

it applies just as much today as it did back then.

peace be with you !

just like your den of thieves churches but I'm not supposed to pass judgement on those guys right :?

They got a extra high doses of fluoride in the water in Marsfield or what? you pick and choose when to apply your principles. Its why you don't mind when your precious church removes commandments or conspires with the same people that Jesus would've despised. It's why you don't see anything unusual about about a church selling a self-produced dvd for $85 and would actually make excuses for that kind of bullshit and then have the fuckin nerve tell me I shouldn't judge but then bring out quotes about judging action.

"Beware ye hypocrites there will be gnashing of teeth"
10-13-2009, 12:52 AM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

umm Jesus does nothing on earth to help man recieve eternal life... what is in the new testement.????..without the teachings of JESUS and the sacrifice he made on the cross ...man could not recieve eternal life...dont you think thats somthing he did here on earth ????

no I do not
and you still don't have any example of what believing in jesus can do for you while on earth

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so those people who sin and claim to believe in Jesus aren`t really his followers and are no better that the heathen or maybe even worse because they know the truth and still disobeyed.

do you think this describes you - since you support the spreading of islam through hip hop?

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... but my personal opinion is you cant truly be righteous without believing in JESUS and his teachings...

you would think that a person who sins their whole life, then repents and believes in jesus the last day of their life would have lived a more righteous life than one who never so much as had a sinful thought their entire life but didn't believe in jesus?
im glad your personal opinions are worth a bag of shit in any case

and also thank you for dodging a lot of my other questions

peace
10-13-2009, 06:38 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

no I do not
and you still don't have any example of what believing in jesus can do for you while on earth

he can do anything you want for you by answer your prayers

john14:13 - "Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son"

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

do you think this describes you - since you support the spreading of islam through hip hop?

hahahah rappers dont even know what religion they are one minute there christians next they are 5%ers then they are black jews hahahahaha....and seriously who in there right mind would follow a religion because a rap group spits about it hahahahahahaha lmao.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

you would think that a person who sins their whole life, then repents and believes in jesus the last day of their life would have lived a more righteous life than one who never so much as had a sinful thought their entire life but didn't believe in jesus?

peace

the person who sinned and repented on there death bed would have been like he never sinned at all the church calls it justification....and sorry I have come to believe it would be the repenter on his death bed not the decent unbeliever...that would go to heaven , beacuse you cant go to heaven without Jesus.

john 10:7-"Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep"

what is JESUS saying here ????... he is saying he is the gate to enter heaven meaning no one can go to heaven without going through (following) jesus.

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 06:53 PM
LORD NOSE

He is zeus

a few tune in to hear the real one

maintaining that station is work
10-13-2009, 06:58 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

he can do anything you want for you by answer your prayers

john14:13 - "Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son"

i can already will myself to do whatever i want for me

so you still do not have a solid example to give me

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hahahah rappers dont even know what religion they are one minute there christians next they are 5%ers then they are black jews hahahahaha....and seriously who in there right mind would follow a religion because a rap group spits about it hahahahahahaha lmao.

that's not the point (even though you don't know what ur talking about)
the fact is people DO learn about islam from these rappers and some DO convert. do you have any idea how many suburban white and black kids would have no idea what islam is if it wasn't for wu-tang? more than you might think.
regardless to how well some rappers may or may not follow it - they are getting THE NAME OF ISLAM out to the world BECAUSE OF YOU ALLOWING THEM TO.

so if you could answer this question again please based on my truth it would be appreciated.

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the person who sinned and repented on there death bed would have been like he never sinned at all the church calls it justification....and sorry I have come to believe it would be the repenter on his death bed not the decent unbeliever...that would go to heaven , beacuse you cant go to heaven without Jesus.

i didn't ask if they would go to heaven - i asked if they would have lived a more righteous life
in any case i was just curious to your opinion on the subject even though i think its utterly ridiculous that a mass murderer of people could have any reason to be more righteous than an eternally-loving person.

so i guess jesus is more narcissistic than he is righteous

peace
10-13-2009, 07:49 PM
Mumm Ra

hey look, prof zooruka painted a picture!
10-13-2009, 08:36 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

i can already will myself to do whatever i want for me

so your telling me that if you have cancer you could will it away by yourself or all those people in the bible that Jesus healed didnt need him because they can just will it away on there own ???? .... sorry but alot of people have recieved miracle cures from JESUS ( after he left earth) things that couldnt be cured by modern medicine yet they where healed.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

that's not the point (even though you don't know what ur talking about)
the fact is people DO learn about islam from these rappers and some DO convert. do you have any idea how many suburban white and black kids would have no idea what islam is if it wasn't for wu-tang? more than you might think.
regardless to how well some rappers may or may not follow it - they are getting THE NAME OF ISLAM out to the world BECAUSE OF YOU ALLOWING THEM TO.

so if you could answer this question again please based on my truth it would be appreciated.

rappers spit just as much about christianity and judaism as they do about islam ... so really who`s to say that rappers dont spread christianity or judaism just as much in rap.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

i didn't ask if they would go to heaven - i asked if they would have lived a more righteous life
in any case i was just curious to your opinion on the subject even though i think its utterly ridiculous that a mass murderer of people could have any reason to be more righteous than an eternally-loving person.

so i guess jesus is more narcissistic than he is righteous

peace

the bible says Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

so I doubt that somebody you and or I deem as good would be good in the eyes of GOD because according to GOD all have sinned and are in need of JESUS....with that said even if non believer did live better than a believer ...the believer who repented would be better off because once he repents (even on his death bed) his sins are washed away and forgotten and the unbeliever even though he lived better would still have some sort of sin against his name which would be counted against him...and anyway while GOD doesnt want you to sin he is all about forgiving sins while it matters how you live ...sins can be forgiven if you accept christ so I think GOD would look for favourably on a sinner who accepts christ and repents than on an unbeliever who lives better but does not accept christ.

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 08:56 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

so your telling me that if you have cancer you could will it away by yourself or all those people in the bible that Jesus healed didnt need him because they can just will it away on there own ????

wow you finally understood something I said

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rappers spit just as much about christianity and judaism as they do about islam ... so really who`s to say that rappers dont spread christianity or judaism just as much in rap.

EXACTLY - so you admit that you are helping to spread islam, among other things
but helping to spread it just the same.
(and in wu's case specifically, they actually speak AGAINST christianity quite often)
and by your own logic, islam = devil. so you are spreading the devil's work around the world

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so those people who sin and claim to believe in Jesus aren`t really his followers and are no better that the heathen or maybe even worse because they know the truth and still disobeyed.

you fit your own description so perfectly

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an unbeliever who lives better

just like i thought - jesus and god cares more about himself than righteousness. you just laid it out perfectly for me.

thank you for your responses prof! i think my understanding of you has become much greater after this. hahah

peace
10-13-2009, 09:07 PM
Face of the Golden Falcon

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so your telling me that if you have cancer you could will it away by yourself or all those people in the bible that Jesus healed didnt need him because they can just will it away on there own ???? ....

Ever noticed how after Jesus healed people many times he said "your faith has healed you"?

Think about it...

SHEM HETEP
10-13-2009, 09:14 PM
Mumm Ra

^ good one
10-13-2009, 09:43 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon

Ever noticed how after Jesus healed people many times he said "your faith has healed you"?

Think about it...

SHEM HETEP

yes thats true in some cases but not all cases ... the majority of healings where done by JESUS own will not just because of a persons faith.

(Matthew 4:23) - "Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people."
10-13-2009, 09:46 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

wow you finally understood something I said

EXACTLY - so you admit that you are helping to spread islam, among other things
but helping to spread it just the same.
(and in wu's case specifically, they actually speak AGAINST christianity quite often)
and by your own logic, islam = devil. so you are spreading the devil's work around the world
you fit your own description so perfectly

rappers spit about a range of topic`s just because they spit about iislam from time to time doesnt mean that there agenda is to spread islam (Unless your talking about cilvaringz) and im helping the devil by listening to them now if you are saying they solely talk about islam then I would agree but they don`t !!!!...rappers stand for nothing they spit wahtever comes to there mind when they write there verses I would hardly call that spreading islam its just another topic of many topics they spit about in there rhymes...so your argument is flawed.
10-13-2009, 09:50 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

rappers spit about a range of topic`s I dont think there agenda is to spread islam...rappers stand for nothing they spit wahtever comes to there mind when they write there verses...so your argument is flawed.

you still don't get it prof
their agenda is irrelevant
(EVEN THOUGH RZA HAS STATED HIS AGENDA IS TO WAKE THE 85% WITH HIS MUSIC)
the fact is that many many people have learned about islam, and converted to islam, solely because of these rappers.
and you support this fully

i know you are experiencing a certain feeling at the moment upon realizing this - but please don't use your snake-talk to get around the fact of your actions
your argument is flawed
10-13-2009, 09:52 PM
zooruka

rappers spit about a range of topic`s just because they spit about iislam from time to time doesnt mean that there agenda is to spread islam (Unless your talking about cilvaringz) and im helping the devil by listening to them now if you are saying they solely talk about islam then I would agree but they don`t !!!!...rappers stand for nothing they spit wahtever comes to there mind when they write there verses I would hardly call that spreading islam its just another topic of many topics they spit about in there rhymes...so your argument is flawed.
10-13-2009, 09:53 PM
Mumm Ra

shit you even rock a symbol in your avatar that stands for the W.isdom of the U.niverse and the T.ruth of A.llah for the N.ation of the G.ods

you used to represent that symbol in your signature but changed it too
10-13-2009, 09:58 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

shit you even rock a symbol in your avatar that stands for the W.isdom of the U.niverse and the T.ruth of A.llah for the N.ation of the G.ods

you used to represent that symbol in your signature but changed it too

hahahaha wu tang is some chinese name of a clan in kung fu movies I cant help if they make up other meanings for it hahahah

also I use to rock a sunz of man sig with the old testement writtings in the picture

http://cover7.cduniverse.com/MuzeAud...780/786708.jpg

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 10:02 PM
Mumm Ra

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the fact is that many many people have learned about islam, and converted to islam, solely because of these rappers.
and you support this fully

do you deny this?

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rappers spit about a range of topic`s just because they spit about iislam from time to time doesnt mean that there agenda is to spread islam

listen to RZA:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29272212...kbps_.mp3.html
and tell me wu-tang's agenda isn't to wake the 85% (according to their islamic views)
10-13-2009, 10:27 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

do you deny this?)

I dont but how many would that be 20 30 100 that would be the most...

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

listen to RZA:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29272212...kbps_.mp3.html
and tell me wu-tang's agenda isn't to wake the 85% (according to their islamic views)

rza-"Flowin like Christ when I speaks the gospel"

ghostface killah-Black Jesus

ol dirty bastrad-big baby jesus

raekwon the chef-Yeah you was lying, where's the cash, crying
Militia, rolling in position Casa Blanca Cuban Link Christian

Russell Jones collapsed at approximately 5:29pm on November 13, 2004 at Wu-Tang's recording studio (36 Records LLC on West 34th Street in New York City). He was pronounced dead less than an hour later, only two days shy of his 36th birthday. He was buried at Brooklyn's Christian Cultural Center.

rappers just talk whatever they want they dont stand for anything your taking it a little to seriously
10-13-2009, 10:38 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

I dont but how many would that be 20 30 100 that would be the most.

thanks for ending your double talk and admitting this
one person would've been enough, although im sure the number is much more than 100 (they've sold 40+ million records worldwide)

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rza-"Flowin like Christ when I speaks the gospel"

ghostface killah-Black Jesus

ol dirty bastrad-big baby jesus

Russell Jones...He was buried at Brooklyn's Christian Cultural Center.

what does this have to do with anything? they can talk about jesus without believing in him literally the way you do. and they're referring to themselves being jesus.
like when Pras said "what you doin Jesus" to ODB when on MTV's TRL

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rappers just talk whatever they want they dont stand for anything your taking it a little to seriously

how do you know?
like you don't take christianity and jesus too seriously?
a little hypocritical to end that once it's turned on you?
the only reason i am right now is because something ive learned over the years - one of the best ways to defeat the devil is to use his own laws against him (you, in this case)
10-13-2009, 10:49 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

thanks for ending your double talk and admitting this
one person would've been enough, although im sure the number is much more than 100 (they've sold 40+ million records worldwide))

well we cant be sure without the proof

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

what does this have to do with anything? they can talk about jesus without believing in him literally the way you do. and they're referring to themselves being jesus.
like when Pras said "what you doin Jesus" to ODB when on MTV's TRL)

its funny how there so islamic but yet they get buried in a christian cemetary

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

how do you know?
like you don't take christianity and jesus too seriously?
a little hypocritical to end that once it's turned on you?)

no they dont take it serious they just spit whatever suits them at the time they are writting there lyrics..other wise they wouldnt be all over the place and one minute talking about christianity then islam then judaism....like when they talk about gatting someone or a buck 50 I dont think they gonna go out a murder someone or slice somebody up its just shit they say anayway half these rappers still drink alcohol and eat pork hahahah.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

the only reason i am right now is because something ive learned over the years - one of the best ways to defeat the devil is to use his own laws against him (you, in this case)

what are the devils laws that you can use them against him ??? the devil doesnt stand for truth he is a murderer and the father of all lies...are you suggesting to defeat the devil we should do these principles ???? I dont know where you got that philosphy from but it makes no sense...the only way you can defeat the devil is with GOD and his laws of truth and justice....but again Im not sure what you are trying to say.

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 11:09 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

well we cant be sure without the proof

ELOHEL!!
prove to me jesus existed, or that ANYTHING you've been claiming in this thread has any factual basis. or that the bible is actually god's words. we can't be sure without proof!

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its funny how there so islamic but yet they get buried in a christian cemetary

still has nothing to do with what we're talking about
you don't know who made those arrangements

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no they dont take it serious they just spit whatever suits them at the time they are writting there lyrics..other wise they wouldnt be all over the place and one minute talking about christianity then islam then judaism.

are you dense?
you can talk about religions without believing in them. kinda like i have been.

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what are the devils laws that you can use them against him ??? the devil doesnt stand for truth he is a murderer and the father of all lies...are you suggesting to defeat the devil we should do these principles ???? I dont know where you got that philosphy from but it makes no sense...the only way you can defeat the devil is with GOD and his laws of truth and justice....but again Im not sure what you are trying to say.

peace be with you !

make him be held accountable for his own laws - I should've been more specific
i've been doing so this entire time time with you and it's definitely been working out in my favor :thumbup:
if you still don't understand - i wouldn't expect the devil to

peace!
10-13-2009, 11:13 PM
PALEHORSE

loollololool zook you need to really sit down and listen to them songs again and try to understand the whole message
10-13-2009, 11:15 PM
Mumm Ra

he should do the same with his bible }:|
10-13-2009, 11:18 PM
PALEHORSE

for real hes misinterpreting everything. and half those lyrics he qouted was wrong
10-13-2009, 11:29 PM
Mumm Ra

in prof's world if i murdered his entire family, repented 2 seconds after - he would love me and praise me as a righteous man
i dont even think jesus would be that gully
10-13-2009, 11:36 PM
PALEHORSE

i always thought no matter what i did jesus would love me anyway. since jesus is all merciful all loving and all that(unless you never heard of him, then u can just rot in fucking hell) i figure fuck jesus too. taking advantage of the innocent like that.
10-13-2009, 11:38 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

[SIZE=5]ELOHEL!!
[SIZE=2]prove to me jesus existed, or that ANYTHING you've been claiming in this thread has any factual basis. or that the bible is actually god's words. we can't be sure without proof!.!

well there where eye witnesses to Jesus`s existance to start with also jesus told us the bible is GOD`s word and to further illustrate that he proved it with the miracles he did and the way he conducted himself to show that GOD was with him so he`s testemony is reliable.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

still has nothing to do with what we're talking about
you don't know who made those arrangements.!

but he is islamic according to you surley somebody would have spoken up and said he should be burried in the islamic tradition.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

are you dense?
you can talk about religions without believing in them. kinda like i have been.!

umm they talk about it more then just in a passing referance....I mean if I was a rapper I wouldn`t talk about islam or buddhism or hinduism....if I truly believe in my religion like you say they do.

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

make him be held accountable for his own laws - I should've been more specific

peace!

um thats what GOD`s laws do ??? not you !!! half the time your probably doing the devils bidding without even knowing it...I mean he has already blinded you to the glory of christ and the gospel ...here is what the bible says about people like you..

2 corinthians 4:4 - "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

so you are under the devils influance.

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 11:40 PM
PALEHORSE

came across this jewel for you zook but i think im probably posting it in vein but it will be entertaining for the rest of us
10-13-2009, 11:42 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

in prof's world if i murdered his entire family, repented 2 seconds after - he would love me and praise me as a righteous man
i dont even think jesus would be that gully

umm if you truly mean it yes you would be forgiven .... also its not my words its the word of GOD ALMIGHTY.

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 11:44 PM
zooruka

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Originally Posted by PALEHORSE

taking advantage of the innocent like that.

you my friend need JESUS

peace be with you !
10-13-2009, 11:50 PM
Mumm Ra

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

well there where eye witnesses to Jesus`s existance to start with also jesus told us the bible is GOD`s word and to further illustrate that he proved it with the miracles he did and the way he conducted himself to show that GOD was with him so he`s testemony is reliable.

prove these eye-witnesses existed, and prove their reliability.
prove jesus did miracles.
prove how jesus conducted himself.

see how im holding the devil accountable now?

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but he is islamic according to you surley somebody would have spoken up and said he should be burried in the islamic tradition.

again, not only is this irrelevant to the discussion, you have NO idea what parties were involved or who held what power that decision - please stop speculating and let him be

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umm they talk about it more then just in a passing referance....I mean if I was a rapper I wouldn`t talk about islam or buddhism or hinduism....if I truly believe in my religion like you say they do.

well no shit YOU wouldn't. you have absolutely no understanding of any religion but you own (even that's questionable)
and please stop speaking for other people. if you don't know why they say what they say, just say you don't understand and keep it at that.

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um thats what GOD`s laws do ??? not you !!! half the time your probably doing the devils bidding without even knowing it...I mean he has already blinded you to the glory of christ and the gospel ...here is what the bible says about people like you..

2 corinthians 4:4 - "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

so you are under the devils influance.

peace be with you !

i was created in god's image, that means i am god
so i am very much capable of using god's laws
and if you say Christ is the image of god, and we know I am the image of god - I must be Christ

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you my friend need JESUS

why would you need jesus if you can't show me a single thing he can do for you during this physical life

- mumm ra, holding the devil accountable one post at a time

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