TSA except you cannot argue against my powerful posts instead of making world cup threads when nebraska dosent even know what football is.
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TSA except you cannot argue against my powerful posts instead of making world cup threads when nebraska dosent even know what football is.
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anyways, i dont know if its a cross cultural thing but in america its shameful to know what "football" is. I only admit it on this website and even at that im dont know much.
i'll reply to your super long one as soon as i read it but at the same time islam is racist and was spread by genocide warfare repression and slavery, a very, very, very, very known fact.
i think your upset cause you thnk im personally insulting you cause you classify yourself as a muslim.
Your point about the Koran not being racist is valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
my point about islam being a rallying point for killing blacks consistantly till this day has been ignored.
had justifying things we both know are wrong been a logical point of attack then yeah i guess this would be a POWERFUL POST.
Islam has been a rallying point for killing black ppl. Arabs OFTEN say black muslims (IN africa not the ones with the perms) aren't 'really muslim'. It's a very well known that that racism is rampant in the muslim world, more so then the christian one.
Anyways, if i were to bring up christianity on wucorp everyone would throw a fit about slavery, racism, white mans religion blah blah, but there has been nothing done in the name of christianity that hasn't been done in the name of islam 4 fold for a longer period of time. The worst part is these things in islam continue in 2009 when christian values eventually truimphed over them
the islamic world has made no significant strides towards improving human rights as a whole since muhammed first forced them to convert and it's sad. The ones that have are often just copying good examples they see in christian countries. The only difference since when islam first stated and now is they found oil and 7 of them became billionaires.
You are arguing for the sake of it.
you dont see this discussion as a attempt to learn knew things or "build" your just a narracist who thinks hes always right.
I'm not a muslim i'm just pointing out the flaws in your CNN view of the islamic world.
All black people should be muslims, i think black christians are an embaressment to blacks.
I hate islam they dress their women up like kkk members what the fuck is that ?! As a man you should appreciate a woman her body and her curves and don't fucking hide it under some curtains!!!!
And ow yeah learn to drink alcohol you stupid motherfuckaz , y'all religion is retarded!!!!
That's not Islam thats arab bedouin tradition to protect against the sand, sadly the cultural tradition has been confused with Islam, i dont blame you for thinking its part of the faith though.
I must admit, extreme muslims are the most boring people to be around, and you wont ever see me communicating reguarly with a bearded gentlemen, as charming and lovely a person he might be, i'm too much of a scumbag to mix with him.
look, the arabs started Islam and spread it everywhere so, yes, of course it will be linked to it.
Sucks for you man, your linked to Arabs because of your religion.
Unfair?? sure.
But is there indeed a link? Why yes.
You got it wrong.
I'm arab not muslim.
I'm very proud to be a Arab, whatever CNN mindset people have been programed with the fact remains, we kept the light of, wisdom, science, medicene and philosophy burning during the dark ages.
The Arabs invented Universitys, observatories, Libraries, mental institutions among other things.
Don't hate on us, were just fighting for our freedom with very little backup and resources right now, were hot hard people just like the latinos and we will not go down with out a fight.
P.L.O style.
look, i kno your history and i dont get my education from television.
i kno ur contributions both bad and good.
your at the bottom right now, so you can play the role of oppressed, but not too long ago you played the role of oppressor.
so keep it movin and stop watching American news and getting mad.
that would be like me learning arabic and watching your news stations and getting all riled up about it.
or moving to a middle eastern country and all that.
makes no sense.
We are opressed, theres no way round it, palestine is bombarded, iraq has been decimated and afghanistan is being fucked too, where getting it fromm all angles with very little to defend ourselves with.
We never opressed, we were welcomed in the western world from the 12- to 1800s as exotic sultans with a exstensive reptoire of knowledge we were the only ones who preserved the works of the old greek masters while the western world were burning witches.
why does derek ask non blacks questions about blacks as if he isn't black?
like a goldfish asking a bunch of mice, "wassup with fish? why do they go 'bloop bloop bloop' with their mouths? lol" as his mouth goes bloop bloop bloop.
GAVIN, i know you want me to die but in the end of the day muslims enslaved/enslave your ppl and kill them in 2010 for the fact they're black constantly for a span of time unjustified and unreasonable.
You're probably really ignorant of the happenings of the world like most black americans but the concept of the black muslim came about with as much slavery and and genocide as the concept of the black christian, only difference is the first christian nations were black and christian by their own choosing.
i can only appologize for being this aspect of history to you for the first time but there's no use. your hatred is irrational and all consuming and you worldview is pegged now on being oppositional to whatever mine is. this isn't my view though, this is history and current events.
i know ppl that have gone to arab countries, nigerians and sudanese ppl mainly, they're the most racist place in the world for none arabs and whites to exist in cause the racism is life threatening, visible, and primitive.
what goes around comes around.....you did your bidding, now your getting retaliation. It will happen again....me and you probablly wont be alive, but it will.Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
history is cyclical.
AHAHAHAAHAHHhahahahahah H!! Jerry GoldfeldQuote:
Originally Posted by Crow Magnum
not reading that wall of BLOOP
http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/Goldfish.jpg
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Originally Posted by TSA
Your the only ignorant one tsa. All glitter jokes aside Gavin is older and more experienced, take that into account and stop being so arrogant.
Islam has always been a friend and refuge to black people. Your a nigerian christian so i expect you to have this fucked up view of islam, however you need to change it and stop speaking like a child.
What goes around comes around? great synopsis of the story of the plight of the Arabs in the modern world.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
We were creating the Canon of Medicine, www.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canon_of_Medicine
while the west was deciding if women were witches if they floated in water or not.
Without our assistance, the world would still be in the dark ages.
Respect the Arabs.
idk why you're comparing me to Gavin. He's 11 years my senior. Im also more inclined to read current affairs in african countries and have lived in a country with more muslims then your own. I have a fucked up view of christianity as well but i dont think it's as bad as Islam. You and I both know the events i speak of are true, you're trying to sugar coat them for argument sake, but we both know so i dont see who your doing it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
not too long ago you told my Ghaddafi isn't racist like the other muslim world leaders. This statement wouldn't make sense if you didn't already know the racism embedded in other world muslim world leaders.
we can look at the facts and figures in sudan, mauritania, mali, western sahara, and chad, but at the moment i choose not too because we both know what's going on.
i do respect the Arabs. I read the travels of Ibn Battuta. loved it.
But they are not without their own faults that routinely come with being a power and bringing your version of life to other cultures.
both for good and bad.
All those countries you mentioned are muslim countries and are happy being muslim countries, the whole african continent is full of bloddthirsty dictators and ethnic cleansing, the worst of the wrost happened in your side of the place and the east, the muslim countires you mentioned have expeirence turmoil obviously but not as much as places like sierre lleone, libeira, uganda, rwanda, s africa and the rest, those countries arent islamic just straight up racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
You dont like islam for some reason, if its due to a traumatic persoanl exopreience with a bearded gentlemen i would understand.
YOu mean to tell me western sahara and sudan dont have conflict like sierre leone (which is currently conflictless) liberia (which is currently confictless) uganda, rwanda (which is currently conflictles) and s. africa (which sucks)?Quote:
Originally Posted by SID
just western sahara and sudan alone.
or do you want to be naive and childish and say oh 'your ppl (even though you're not muslim)' dont do anything bad just cause you feel an unrealistic attachment to them. I'll tell you right now everything bad nigerians are known for is done at the most industrial volumes by my specific tribe that overshadow the others.
I'm not saying muslims are innocent angels, certain practioners fuck up everything for everyone due to their faggity personalities overiding their principles, the same with all religions in essence.
Your argument is that islam is a rallying point for killing blacks in africa, when millions upon millions upon fucking millions of bodies litter the hisotries of the countries i mentioned? the islamic north african sahrahn countries are relentivly quiet
How many peoiple would know where mail and muaratnia was if you asked them? however if you say the words rwanda, sierre leone you immediatyl think of tutsi racial cleansing, millions of skulls and drug induced kids macheting their familes up.
They might be conflictless now but that dosent change shit, the countries you mentioned get no news coverage? why? because its not a major problem just simple tribal warfare and terratory claims.
You hate islam for a reason i am yet to understand..
islamic north african states were once as black as none islamic southern african states.
andf im not going to use other ppls ignorance to say that something that's happening in a country they don't know is justified cause they dont know about it and im sure you don't want to say the same thing. news coverage?
really?
and the reason i hate islam is cause it practices the worst in religion and the means by which it was spread are morally unsettling.
You were born into a muslim family but you're not muslim, so obviously it wasn't your cup of tea either.
Tissa's hate for Islam is simple.
the situation in Sudan is one where Afro-Arab muslims are killing black muslims while all muslim nations turn a blind eye to it, and some muslim nations give their full support to the Sudanese government. Tissa see's this as Islam used as a rallying point for killing blacks.
but didnt the Muslim world do the same in Bosnia??? when Bosnian muslims where being massacred no muslim nation did anything. and this was Christians killing Muslims, its the number one reason for a Jihad. but nothing happened. the same is happening in Sudan and in Palestine.
What you need to understand Derek is that the Muslim world simply doesnt care. it has nothing to do with race, muslim countries especially the powerful ones are comfortable right now. they really dnt need the headache of trying to bring El-Bashir and the rest of the Sudanese government to justice.
well im not asking them to care, im saying black americans shouldn't act like christianity is racist and islam is 'black' when they are both guilty of the same things christianity is being called racisty for, which isn't an outrageous statement.
and ppl should stop using the 'well ___________ did it too" line of justification cause nobody said those ppl didn't do it either and its still fucked up regardless of who did it AND my argument is actually the fact that yes, others did this things too and this is why islam shouldn't be seen as exceptional.
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Originally Posted by TSA
Not at all, i love the religion with all my heart and will proberly revert to it before i die, i dont feel comfortable going to any holy place except a mosque, the feeling in their is warm and pretty spiritual.
The muslims of the golden age operated like me, they were OG's and the finest example of what a muslim can be, they were tolerant, accepting, intelligent and open minded but still retaining their belief in a single omnipotent creator and his last prophet deep down.
I'm going through a spiritual phaze basking in the wonder of some ideas present on this earth, i'm sure you can agree theres some trill beliefs on this earth and i intend to check them out before i say iam this religion or that sect.
I seriously cant believe people are still following these intellectually retarded religions in this day and times.
Come on, we all know its bullshit, stop the charade. Its absurd. No God creator of all things would act in this way or give a flying fuck how long you wore your beard or what you do on sundays. Or entrust all his knowledge to some dude to write it all down.
Einstein:
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You will hardly find one among the profounder sort of scientific minds without a peculiar religious feeling of his own. But it is different from the religion of the naive man.For the latter God is a being from whose care one hopes to benefit and whose punishment one fears; a sublimation of a feeling similar to that of a child for its father, a being to whom one stands to some extent in a personal relation, however deeply it may be tinged with awe.But the scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation. The future, to him, is every whit as necessary and determined as the past. There is nothing divine about morality, it is a purely human affair. His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.
Spinoza's God.