Meth/Ghost/Rae - "Wu-Massacre"

man...

I have went from Gunshowers being my favorite to Miranda and now Im stuck on Our Dreams.


This album really gives back.seriously.

Hollow Dartz Review:

1. Criminology 2.5
I wasn't really feeling this track on the Raekwon Mixtape, but I think it sounds better on here for some reason, I always liked the beat on here. Ghost re-used verse from Badlands is kind of a letdown though, and since Ghost "Quarterback-ed" the album i'm pretty sure this was his idea. Anyways Method Man gives new life to this track, I like how he pays homage to Raekwon's original Criminology verse on here if anyone noticed his lines, he brings that energy on here. I'm not gonna lie Raekwon's verse was dry, I'm glad it was taken off of here. Pretty solid track indeed. 4/5

2. Meth vs. Chef Pt. II
I'm feeling this right here, it took some time to grow on me really, but it did and I'm feeling this. Raekwon starts off by warming up, Meth comes in on here hungry and they get better & better with every verse they spit on here, you can really hear them going at it on this one. I think it's definitely a Tie on this one. Meth took Pt. I without a doubt though. 4/5

3. Ya Moms (skit)

4. Smooth Sailing (Remix)
I'm feeling this beat right here this shit goes hard in the whip, Ghost opens up strong on this one his opening lines gets me hyped every time I hear them, he shows that his dartz are still sharp on this one, Solomon Childs on the hook is always a plus in my book. Method Man is nice as fuck on here he sounds like he wants his title back or something which I love on here, he has many quotables on this album without a doubt. Streetlife brings it home with his verse, I wasn't too hyped with it a first, but it grew on me and I love how he mixed in the generals with his verse, straight raw. 4.5/5

5. Our Dreams
I love how everyone hated this song when the producer was unknown and then when it was found out to be Rza everyone was feeling this....clown ass niggaz. Anyways I'm feeling the Mj sample on here, I love the beat when they start rhyming, as far as verses go on here i'mma go with Raekwon>Ghost>Meth. Meth could've came better on here especially this being the single and all, Ghost delivers heat on this shit, reminds me of some Fishscale type shit and Raekwon is a smooth criminal on this one. Rza on the beat this is a solid one. 4/5

6. Gunshowers
When I first heard this in the car, i think i played this one all the way until i got home, this shit bangs hard in the whip without a doubt. This beat is a headbanger forreal im surprised others aren't freestyling off this one yet. Method Man opens this one up good with more quoteables on here and he supplies a good hood on here too. Ghost's voice on here is sore but he still manages to come through with a solid verse, Sun God goes in on this one, this is the best I've heard from him yet he flows on this beat real well, Inspectah Deck brings it home nicely, I like how he Ab-Libs his last word in every line in his verse, it gives the verse an extra push. Anyways this is my top 3 on the album. 4.5/5

7. Dangerous
This is my number one track on this album, Raekwon just goes in on here and he is fly as fuck on this song, Mathematics beat is on point & they all lyrically come correct on here. Ghostface is dissing the hell out of clown niggaz (NOT T.I. so shut the fuck up). Method Man brings this one home real well I must add, one of my favorite verses on this album, his flow and lyrics are just there on this song. 4.5/5

8. Pimpin Chipp
Classic Ghostface Killah storytelling right here, good beat to match it. That's about it. 4/5

9. How To pay Rent (Skit)

10. Miranda
Nice ass beat on this one Mathematics supplied heat on this album for real. His last good beat i liked was "Everything" on Meth's 4:21 album. But anyways, Raekwon definitely has the best verse on here the visual is crazy, in fact too crazy i have to blurr out some parts cause he goes in on this for sure. Ghostface voice is sore again which takes away .5 point from this song, he could've waited or something, it would've sounded better with him at 100% definitely. Method Man brings it home with a pretty solid verse. 4.5/5

11. Youngstown Heist
Another dope track, sounds like a Big Doe Rehab throwaway I must add. Anyways this beat is nice by Scram Jones and Trife, Sheek & Bully all play their part on this track and bring it to life. 4/5

12. It's That Wu Shit
I don't know why niggaz is hating on this one, I like this track right here, the beat is dope to me, I blast this in the whip at least 5 times a day. Scram did his thing with this beat, Method Man killed his verse, that shit was nice for no reason I quote that shit every time I hear this. I am Disappointed with Ghostface on here though his Dartz should've been WAY sharper on here, alot of predictable lines on this one, he still came through though "I'm a don, rebel outta Staten Island projects.......I dare ya'll to come to my projects!!!!!!" 3.5/5

Beats - 4/5
Lyrics - 4/5
Overall - 4/5

This is pretty solid album or whatever you want to call it. I'm very glad to add this to my Wu-tang collection. All three members delivered on here, Beats were pretty solid, Mathematics surprised me on this one, Scram Jones & Rza came through with bangers on this one. A little more "Meth, Ghost & Rae" songs would've been nice and More Raekwon would've definitely been nice, but this was rushed by Def Jam and not those three so you can't get mad at them. If this was a solid album rushed, imagine a project with these guys in the studio vibing and going in.....Wu-Corp. would still complain anyways...****Overall 4/5****

yo u better rate that skit.hahahah NAW I O U REP THO.

my only complaint is that they should've used the original 4-minute version of Criminology with the Scarface sample, and Pete Rock's Smooth Sailing beat, not the stupid remix

gunshowers is fuckin heavy sons! Im lovin this track

LP, Shirt, Poster
dope Album!
only Track i don't like is "It's That Wu Shit"

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prob been discussed before but how in the hell did rae not get a verse on "It's That Wu Shit"? vs1/2 ghost, vs3 meth.. would have been dope to have been ghost/rae/meth.. meth kills it!. would have capped the EP off nicely.

^ co-sign

Wu-Massacre suprised me, it was alot better then i thought it would be

ima give it a 4/5, i would give higher if it was a little bit longer, as length is only dissapointing thing imo

but still, dope release!

good without being great

Definate banger...4.5/5

Definite banger that had the potential to be a masterpiece.

this album is insanely disappointing. FUCK DEF JAM!!!!! the album screams "I WAS RUSHED IN 10 MIN.".
an opportunity like this... bringing together 3 of the top MC's in the game, not to mention WU cats.. u just dont fuck around w/ that kind of opportunity. and i actually blame meth, GFK & rae mostly. yeah rae & meth voiced displeasure at the way DJ handled it, but they should never have signed off on a 'final' version.

meth killed it lyrically.
ghost was ghost (dopeness runs thru his veins, not blood.).
not nearly enough rae.
i think the mixing & mastering was done by "warren" (cameron diaz's retarded brother in 'something about mary').
it was not worth my $15!!!!!!!!!!

i'm as big a WU fan as their is, but i aint co-signing this. i refuse to support garbage. and for those that actually think this album is "dope", in my opinion you're encouraging them to keep a low standard.

WU to me used to mean "wayyyyy better than anyone else".

I just noticed this entire album is filled with punch-you-in-the-face tracks. our dreams is the only time it slows down. it needed some more mellow tracks

Only complaint: Not enough tracks with the three of them together. These guys really are a classic hip-hop team, but most of the ongs have AT MOST two of them at a time. It almost feels like they culled alot of the tracks from jut random recording sessions.
Really good album that could have been really great.

/\ The 3 of them were not down for the idea of a WHOLE album with just them on tracks as a trio, it was a corny idea for them. Crim 2.5, Dangerous, Miranda & Ant Acids mix to Our Dreams are plenty, you cant ask for a whole album of New Wu

Dissapointing. Rushed. Not cohesive. Youngstown Heist the only good track. Havent Listened to the album since release.

the months have passed and the "Wu Massacre" album, one of the releases i looked the most forward to, have rarely been getting spins. i think all-in-all i've played it about 10 times since i received it... it's not that the music is wack because it is not but the project feels horribly rushed and there's several things about it that just makes me scratch my head. why the hell would they cut off Raekwon from "Criminology II" as well as Ghost's first verse, or why the fuck did they leave a banger like "Made Men" on the cutting floor - especially considering the length of the retail album/ep.

every time i play this on the mp3-player i use the full version of "Criminology 2.5" with Rae, Meth and Ghost, as well as including "Made Men" at the end and omitting the skits. but even with these changes the album lack replay value and many real stand-out moments which is suprising since these 3 guys is amongst my favorite rappers of all time. Raekwon isn't on enough songs but every time he drops by he has a dope verse; Meth is on it a little more and he is straight KILLING IT, wheter it be a verse or the hook (Mr. Mef is still Wu's nr. 1 hook guy, no question) but at the end of the day "Wu-Massacre" is a Ghostface show. besides "Meth vs. Chef Pt. II" and "Made Men", Starks is all over this joint, and that's hard to complain about since he's still an incredible MC whenever he wants as evident on the raw pimp tales displayed on "Pimpin' Chipp" or his furious verbal attack on (?)Shyheim(?) on "Dangerous" - both his verses on "Criminology 2.5" is worth a mention too, no doubt.

the production doesn't hold any suprises exactly, the producers have gone for a safe approach lacing the 3 Wu rappers with their take on "the classic Wu sound". alot of heavy tracks with booming drums and sped-up soul samples is the foundation here and while pretty much all the beats are good, they are predictable and not on the level RZA, Kanye, Just Blaze or Pete Rock would've delivered resulting in low replay value. i must admit that Allah Mathematics's contributions, who haven't impressed me much at all in the last decade, are all really dope and the best on the entire album. "Meth vs. Chef Pt. 2", "Dangerous", "Miranda" and "Made Men" all keep true to the Wu sound without feeling uninspired or too predictable. suprisingly, the only chill-out song comes from RZA himself who's lone contribution to the album gets Rae, Meth and Ghost to talk to their respective girls over a sweet Michael Jackson sample. it's a summer 'feel good' vibe type of track and it's much needed on the otherwise amped, adrenaline/testosterone oozing album (as someone said every song sounds like it tries to be a single).

At the end of the day, the whole thing is a pretty frustrating story considering a collaboration album of this caliber on a label of Def Jam's caliber (meaning there should've been alot of money in the budget for good producers, etc) should result in a classic or at least a truly great album. while "Wu Massacre" has a few great moments, and most of it is listenable/good, it's an album that's quickly forgotten besides one of the greatest covers hip-hop has seen in a good while.

3/5

ugh.

the mcs were on point but again without rza or more wu elements the sound is not fitting.

dope record. love it other then its seems likke an E.P other then that ...top notch .

shit was rushed and it's painfully obvious.
Though it serves as a great EP..... but just that, an EP.
When it's being priced as an LP.
Which is some bullshit.
But the two tracks that undoubtedly show it's worth- Gunshowers & Wu-Shit.
Both of those are FUCKING FFFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRRREEEEEE.
Rest of it is alright. Nothing Special.

man this is still in heavy rotation with me. Criminology 2.5 does its job, Gunshowers is a 10/10, my only complaint is the useless first skit, and they could have through a U-God appearance on here, meth just does not sound inspired anymore. RZA came through with Our Dreams which holds this LP together. I wish we could get a volume two with MK,U-God, and RZA, I'd buy that the first day, then volume three could be Gza,Deck, and Don King. I feel Ghost's pain though, he had to carry this cd, rae was putting other shyt together, and meth could've have came way better than this, I think his input has been off the most since we lost dirt, he better not repeat this performance, and street lifes verse was wack, bring on fes taylor though

criminology 2.5 8/10
meth vs chef 2 10/10
smooth sailing 6/10
our dreams 5/10
gunshowers 10/10
dangerous 5/10
pimpin chip 6/10
miranda 10/10
youngstown heist 6.5/10
its that wu shit 6.5/10

**made men 10/10

I bump Criminology 2.5 almost daily, I think that's a very good track, they all come hard.

wu massacre 2.5/5

Wack album because of the beats.