Message from the honorable Allah Jihad of the NGE addressing the Wu Tang Clan

Just because i read the Qur'an and Bible does not make me a religious person. I like to seek Knowledge from evrywhere. Religions are devised to separate and cause war. Christians do not read the Qu'ran, and Muslims generally (while some do) read the Bible. History points out that the Torah (Old Testament) came first. Musa (or Moses) came to teach the people, but the people did not act accordingly. Then came the gospel (or the New Testament). Then that was tampered with so what we get today is not the exact original bible, but a bible that was messed with and tampered with to suit the people who changed it, thats why the Bible has SOME truth to it, but most people take everything the Bible says literally, without questioning it (the closest u can get to the original Bible is the King James version) . A true student of life has every right to question things and not follow in blind faith, that's why I do not get mad at certain statements, because I love to teach these things, it is my duty. I have no problem with ya'll asking me questions. Anyway, the Blible came, and people still did not act accordinlgy. In the time of Mohammad (not Elijah, but the Mohammad of thousands of years ago), came the Holy Qu'ran. The Qu'ran was the last warning to the people. No book came after it to this day. But what happened? People made all these religions out of all these scriptures, when in reality all these scriptures was teaching the same thing, to Civilize the human family. Jesus did not teah Christianity, that word (Christianity) is never mentioned in the Bible (go ahead, look it up). He taught freedom, justice, and equality, the same thng Mohammad taught thousands of years later. Mohammad was the last messanger of truth.

The point I'm getting at is: Judism, Christianity, Catholocism, Islam (as a relgion) all these things were fabrcated after these teachings. But these teachings were not intended for that purpose, it was not intended to craete religions, these teachings were written to civilize, but then they got in the wrong hands.

Again, Islam (in its original state) is a natural way of life, not a religion, but only 5% of the Earth's population know this, which are poor righteous teachers (Nation Of Gods & Earths), civilized people (any person who lives righteously and knows this fact), and some Muslims & muslim sons.

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Originally Posted by LordReveal

PEACE Allah Jihad. I have a few comments

1. I understand where u coming from God, but at the same time the duty of a civilized person is to teach he who is a savage the meaning of civilization, righteousness, the knowledge of self, the science of evrything in life, love, peace, and happiness. And to some degree, that's what the Wu has done. They have chosen music and the entertainment field as a platform to teach and deliver this message.

2. Many of the lines you have quoted are from their earlier stuff. Thats when they were young (both in age and in their studies). I'm young in my studies myself (I just turned 23). But everyday I grow as a person because that is the flow of the Universe, to gradually grow throughout time. U can see the evolution and growth of the Wu themselves (at least in their music, I dont know about their personal) from their first album (Enter The Wu) to their second abum (Wu-Tang Forever).

3. U cant feed a baby steak, u have to feed it baby food. Before teaching someone, I always try to adapt to their mental state, to figure out how I'm going to teach the person, because u cant teach everyone the same. When Allah (The Father, Clearance 13X) was teaching in the streets of Harlem, he came to those who rolled dice rollin dice himself. Just like Jesus, he hung around with the thieves, prostitutes, and killers because he knew that in order to teach and civilize them, he had to walk with them. Unlike these religions such as Christianity and Catholicism, which they try to force-feed their bullshit to u anf if u regect it, they have the fucking balls to "condemn u to hell" when they are some of the biggest murderers, adulterers, & rapists. I like to say "come to the people as the people" so if someone wants me to teach them but they rollin dice in the corner, I'm going to be right there rolling dice (however, there's a limit: I'm not going to kill nobody or sell poison to my people). In my humble opinion, thats why the Wu and other rappers who are "righteous" have certain subject matter, God. Because nobody wants to be preached to, u gotta come to them as they are.

Thanks to the God Allah Jihad for sharing his views.
I wish u success on the book, I been anticipating it.
PEACE.

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I have to agree with your views on this subject matter. Good post. The Wu has consisently been able to interject nuggets of wisdom sprinkled in their lyrics with out being preachy. They were born into a era and environment where they were surrounded by violence, drugs, etc so that's what they reflect on. They're numerous references in their music to attempt to stop black on black crime etc. I wonder how Allag Jihad approached the Wu as far as giving back because in his post he seems pretty arrogant to me.

To add on to what I was saying...

It's similar to Buddhism. Buddhism in it's true, pure, form is about enlightnment and inner-peace. That's the same with us in the Nation (as far as the goal). That's what the Buddha taught, to find your inner peace. And of course, just like evrything else they transformed his teachings and created the religion known as Buddhism, way after his time. Dont ya see a patter here? Just like they made a religion in the name of Buddha and created Buddhism, the same way they crated a religion in the name of Jesus (Christianity).

I'll say this tho. I despise the word religion, because that is the root of many of today's problems. However, the one and only religion I have to say that does not react in a hostile and violent manner, it's Buddhism. That goes for EVERBODY who practices this religion. I have many of Dali Lama's books, and they are great.

ghost isnt a real god? shit

lesbian nun your attitude towards 5 percent and spiritual elevation in general reminds me of an foxnews-anchorlady screamin "this is hiphop"when commentin on suge knight gettin shot
in the ass.Can it be youre just too limited to differ between what the prophets taught and what some organizations claimed was their heritage to gain controll over the masses?Its like because mc donalds claims to sell healthy food and you find out they dont you start runnin around and tell everybody there is no such thing as healthy food.Makes u look a little bit ridiculous.
DO THE KNOWLEDGE SON BEFORE YOU DO THE WISDOM
ALLAH BODY IVORY and EBONY

Mr Lordreveal:

I stand by my opinion. I understand that 5 percenters were around wy before the Wu Tang. However, I am merely emphasizing that the Wu Tang brought 5 percent wisdom into the mainstream. Otherwise, it would still be a street movement. At this point, there are European kids who know what the Nation of the Gods and Earths is, despite them being so far away.

I will say this again. Their emphasis of 5 percent beliefs in their lyrics, recorded on records has contributed a great deal to the spread of the NGE. I don't believe Wu owes them anything. If anything, the NGE received free publicity. Same can be said for the new Kung Fu film revival.

I understand what your sayin but I never said the Wu owed back. It would not hurt if they donate to our cause, but IMO they contributed by spreading knowledge, wisdom, & undrstanding thru their music. Hey, if they can cilvilize and teach people, all while gettin paid for it, then more power to them. I'm not knockin their hustle.
PEACE.

word who the fuck is this dude to say wu is bad for using 5% shit without really living it... gza said in a interview on allhiphop.com that he aint affiliated with 5% anyumore.. he was still taking things from it to better his life and shit but also realizes its not what everything is about.. thats straight up real tralk
peace to lordreveal for always droppin insight

what a crock of shit

EDIT- not the letter adressing wu but all this 5% shit

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Originally Posted by aismani

lesbian nun your attitude towards 5 percent and spiritual elevation in general reminds me of an foxnews-anchorlady screamin "this is hiphop"when commentin on suge knight gettin shot
in the ass.Can it be youre just too limited to differ between what the prophets taught and what some organizations claimed was their heritage to gain controll over the masses?Its like because mc donalds claims to sell healthy food and you find out they dont you start runnin around and tell everybody there is no such thing as healthy food.Makes u look a little bit ridiculous.
DO THE KNOWLEDGE SON BEFORE YOU DO THE WISDOM

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Though i don't follow the 5%, i know of it, and i was not once bashing the people who are involved in it...considering wu-tang is my favorite group...i was just critisizing the asshole who started this thread cause he was bashing his own brothers, which showed pure hypocrisy on his part...i'm not claiming to know tons about this 5% buiness, but if the cat sells books and makes money off his community for some his own profit, and then goes against what he prolly wrote in the book is stupid...so fuck that bullshit ass cat...

whatever im a fan of there mafiaso rap shit, im not black and im not religious and therefore have no interest in 6% or whatever

shut the fuck up! who are you to speak? u speak all that with a naked woman with ya name Suntz, is that not expliotation and sexist towards the latino sisters?
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don't kill the messenger ^^

first off these are not my words, pay attention and actually read before you open your mouth

and she is asian

Gullyma say LOLOLOLO YA SOUND FUNNY----nigga said lol and she asian

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Originally Posted by Gullyma

shut the fuck up! who are you to speak? u speak all that with a naked woman with ya name Suntz, is that not expliotation and sexist towards the latino sisters?
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don't kill the messenger ^^

first off these are not my words, pay attention and actually read before you open your mouth

and she is asian

Gullyma say LOLOLOLO YA SOUND FUNNY

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Originally Posted by LordReveal

To add on to what I was saying...



I'll say this tho. I despise the word religion, because that is the root of many of today's problems. However, the one and only religion I have to say that does not react in a hostile and violent manner, it's Buddhism. That goes for EVERBODY who practices this religion. I have many of Dali Lama's books, and they are great.

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guess you don't know about the singhalese/tamil conflict in sri lanka

but of course I do

However, they react violently when its proper time (provoked, ect), which there is nothing wrong with that, because when the law of justice is applied, if u smack me, I should smack u back.

What I meant was that they do not discriminate towards one specific group of people, they seek to live in peace and harmonly with all humans.

Just read the statement for the first time and it was very powerful as well as interesting even with all the gramattical errors. However, there were also some ignorant things that were said there in my own humble opinion. I don't think that you can assume anything about someone just because they are of a certain race. Something to the effect of "Rae and Ghost shouldn't talk any mafia stuff and take mafia names because Italians hate Blacks" was said there and that's pretty ignorant to me. Regardless of what has happened in the past, I don't believe that you can make a general statement like that (Italians hate Black people) because everyone is different. Just because certain people who are Italian don't like Black people doesn't mean that all Italians hate Blacks. I'm sorry to be pointing out a mistake like that but it makes me mad when people claim to be righteous and above all this hate but then make statements like that which are somewhat ignorant. I'm not saying that Allah Jihad is ignorant, just that I think the specific statement was. Also, I have a lot of trouble believing some of the things that he said about RZA not knowing no lessons and shit. If you read the Wu-Tang Manual, you will know that RZA IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE 5% NATION nor has he ever claimed to be. He has simply studied the lessons and believes in some of the teachings. He also claims in the book to have been studying Supreme Mathematics at the age of 11 and says that he knew the entire 120 lessons by the age of 12. So, someone has facts wrong. Regardless, it was still a very powerful statement with many good points. Nuff respect. One Love.

PEACE

peace to the forum im not going into what that dude wrote because lol the whole forum tore it apart already so you all made it easy however this guy jihad is basically confused and misguided i mean he still telling that story about going up to raekwons hotel room and going backstage at the shows now if anyone has been back stage at a wutang show knows there isnt nothing but true and living gods there i have yet to see anyone ask an individual yo you can come back here if they memorized all the lessons lol lol lol i mean if that be the case the same should apply to the patrons who come to see the clan perform lol lol this guy is just tring to draw attention to himself and thats exactly what he did lol also he has no right to judge any of the clan members at all because he dont know how they live once they leave the stage and the video shoot see if you really look at it like i did he basically showed and proved himself as a male groupie lol truth is truth im not tring to toot my own horn but this dude is no example for the nation of gods and earths on no level for the simple reason that the clan are active members of the nation of gods and earths he should be man enough to approach them as a man , not by character assaination through the fan base that is some bitch shit so im not going to sit here and defame jihad because he serves a purpose just like we all do in life i mean he dont even add on here regularly and when he did it was negative lol so im sure i dont need to expose him he did a good job on his own so peace to the corp oh yeah p.s. ghost and cap had a show in chicago where this dude is presently residing im sure he didnt show up there to build with my artist (CAPPADONNA) or ghost lol cause im sure cap would have called me lol but its peace tho ...... www.cappadon.com

where u been Shiek? holla at me.

as far as this build.. well its like this i think its unfair that allah jihad put a baby up to do his dirty work, i know that sun-tzu isnt the enemy hes just a messenger.. wutang clan isnt obligated to do nathan for anyone.. theres no rules in the nge's that say that u have to financially support it.. the fathers message was to save the babies.. saving the babies starts with writing the music... saving the babies starts with helping out when needed.. babies are babies.. whether there white black or pocadotted.. a devil is one who does devilishment.. one who lies cheats steals and trys to master others.. i say that allah jihad needs to grow up cus hes not doing anything productive acting like a profit when he comes off as an idiot! #(

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Hmmm.

There were a lot of weirdos in this thread.

this should be adressed to Cilva, not WTC