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The irony is that Ghost peaked around that time. His verses and delivery on the W were flawless.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
I really doubt he remembers any of The W songs (and they never perform these).
The W helped Wu gain a fanbase among younger millennials, exellent album btw.
Damn, I was having low expectations, but i think this is a dope album. Actually surprised how much I like this. I got what I needed and the album took me to places. Soulful. Drew this while listening.
https://i.ibb.co/TDN9JH5s/Screenshot...a41cc2d2e6.jpg
It is a functionable Ghost album a mere outpost franchisee of the SC name - that's it.
I never had any expectations for it to be on par with the original, as that was a product of its time. They key component being RZA's presence on that album. Back then GFK and RZA had taken a trip to Africa together, the connection was palpable throughout the whole joint. The chemistry on The Grain and Nutmeg for instance. That's why I am really disappointed RZA is not on this sequel (at least a verse or two, if not beats), as he was a gargantuan influence on the original. It's not to be, as GFK does not want to acknowledge that SC was as much a RZA album as it was his solo. Hence SC being among the pantheon of the first-round of legendary 'solo' albums.
If anything, 'SC2' is a perfunctory suture-job of passable beats - that showcases how lucky we are that GFK didn't go on to Exec Produce a Clan album.
DOPE artwork! Glad you were inspired to create... PEACEQuote:
Originally Posted by laki420
Def share your love/appreciation for "The W" (last CLASSIC clan album imo)! Imagine how theatrical a "Cafeful Click Click" live rendition could be... although it might start riots smh. Would also LOVE to see "Cant Go To Sleep" lyve plus "Redbull" (WITH Red) & "Do You Really" have such lyve stage energy. Seems like they mostly do "Gravel Pit" from that album... PEACEQuote:
Originally Posted by SL33
I was at Cappa's solo concert last year and he performed his Careful verse along with the quasi-hook. Crazy energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeAll
well said. it really took me aback when he said that. i'll be honest, it was when i really knew there was so supreme clientele 2 coming. again im shocked people had high hopes. not saying this album is wack, it's just not an album to rave about and definitely isn't in the vein of a supreme clientele. Not even in the LEAST BITQuote:
Originally Posted by SL33
MANNNNQuote:
Originally Posted by Mythrandir
I just love it when people actually call shit for what it is. AGAIN, THE MAJOR FORMULA IS RZA. whether these folks like it or not, whether or not yall love his new shit, RZA is more than just the beat maker, he is the vision. His input is invaluable and you can see it when he isn't involved in their projects. it reminds me of method man, to me, method man hasn't been able to replicate the flow, the cadence and might of his work on wutang forever. that in part has alot to do with rza.. the way his voice was even mixed down, the flow and stop, flow and stop, high and low style of flow was exactly what method man should always be and he admittedly will tell you. Rza guided him with that, it was Rza who would hear what needed to be heard and direct him on how to proceed on the wax. the Rza detractors do not understand that its not just about his beats. are all his recent beats great??? that depends on who is listening but is his ear and vision for the members ON POINT. well..go listen to every member album Rza had input in and get back to me.
THERE IS ONLY ONE ABBOT. it was madness for some of yall to think anyone else should be at the helm of the ship. Now you're seeing. It's not easy being Rza in the clan. His job ain't a walk in the park.
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Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
the last Rza beat that blew my mind is one yall aint heard yet. it was Him spitting as Rzarecter, la the darkman, prodigal sunn and shabazz the disciple on it. it was one of the craziest joints i've ever heard and it wasn't old shit either. i've also heard stems for shimmy shimmy ya and i'm telling you.. this dude is not human, how he actually made the beat when you hear it from the breakdown is insane. like stated earlier. he just doesn't wanna do it anymore. i kinda understand it. im nowhere near his level but ive been making beats for a minute and i've gotten to the point of experimentation because it just gets to the point where you wanna make and understand music on a different level. is it always a good idea? well...thats for listeners to decide and with no disrespect to his love but his wife aint too keen on that hardcore wutang shit and that played a part in his change of direction.
i kind get it. he is a married man now who prolly doesn't wanna end up a divorce statistic lol. these women these days are different, all it takes is her waking up one day and saying "im unhappy" and a shitstorm begins so i can't even be mad at him.
sidenote: his son has taken up production and i'm sure Rza is his tutor. i heard what his son produced for kurupts daughter. kid got potential but he ain't no Rza..just yet so lets see how that plays out lol
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Originally Posted by SL33
Nah I know what he means. I like The W but its dark and they could have done better. I agree that he peaked at that time. Between Supreme and The W
All due respect to Rza, but let’s not forget about Carlos Bess. He’s one of the main reasons that SC sounded so good.
Rza did Careful when I saw him live around the thyme of BOAP. Cilva was there too.
Ruined the trackQuote:
Originally Posted by cd
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Yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by ta12113
Let's not forget Jose "Choco" Reynoso and his work on Wu related stuff including engineering the entire The W album and Supreme Clientele.