SHE IS SAYING
that the dumb need to be controlled
by those who have knowledge
but those who have the knowledge, do evil shit.
that is how they, give praise to their god.
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SHE IS SAYING
that the dumb need to be controlled
by those who have knowledge
but those who have the knowledge, do evil shit.
that is how they, give praise to their god.
It's a case of organised religion being more of a detriment to the world than religiosity it self, sorta thing. Religious scriptures, regardless of the belif system have, in essence, a positive message. It's just that religion is highly exploitative, shame really.
Religion or being Religous (the words) is European in origin, and is not synonomous with ancient eastern spiritual systems or scriptures.
people are always confused and somtimes never understand who god is. first people say how can u find God and how can u Find whats not their? when u say U "Found God" your saying that u have jesus in your hearts and in your soul. people say its dumb to be religious and that its a waste of time. well how can those people place their opinion when they arent or havnt ever been Christian. I used to be bad and crap like that and "thought" I was a happy person but when i got into religion and recieved God as my lord and saviorI relized u can NEVER be as happy as I am unless u have God in your hearts. God is real and all will one day come to see that but then can be to late =/
u r conditioned to believe that u felt JESUS(muslims will be conditioned to believe they felt muhammed,sikhs the guru's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bricka
when u in fact. made the change urself
you made the change. but those who tell u, say it wasnt u.
it was GOD,
thats how they have power, but anyway the point i wanted to make was
what u felt, was you soul/your aura. that gets mistaken and twisted
when religious zealots put their own twist on it.
u just came intune with a better/higher consciousness.
now u can either expound on that. or u can go the 'religious prison way'
its up to u.
peace
i guess you're the expert on this so i want to ask you some things, and you reply taking me through them.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
1.) What is exactly conditioned into the "prisoner"? What is done/how long does it take?
2.) After conditioning how has the person changed, is it possible to change them back? Some philosophers would disagree and say that human beings cannot be conditioned although, but that we only learn. Conditioning is found mainly in animals/pets/
3.) What personal experience have you had on this issue?
4.) What evidence or information have you gathered on this?
peace koolish
im far from an expert..
i will answer ur questions as fully as i can.
ill get back to u later on
some i can do quick time
1) a prisoner of religion - puts all hopes in a higher force.. that controls or guides them in life. the higher force is either a holy book, or texts.. or a priest conditioning usually happens in the 1st 15 years of ur life..
as in if u pay alot of attention to skewl. and do exactly what is asked and u learn that shit..(the most stubborn/closed minded pplz i have ever met are teachers and those in the medical proffession)
most people in society now are conditioned to believe.. in a god/religious fraternity.
even tho, they might say. no i do not do religion or believe in god.
yet they still celebrate the festivals/rituals and dont think twice. thats a very good condtioned person as.. their consciouss is saying i dont believe this.. but the programming is still in effect at the sub conscious level.
hence it is much more easier to divide and polarize diffrent parts of societys depending on their religion/god they believe in
but u can be condtioned later in life, such as the dude who said he found jesus. he was told he found jesus(by his sub conscioous) and those who he spoke to confirmed in his conscious that is what happenED!
if he was muslim/sikh*(i was born sikh)/hindu im pretty sure, a similar scenrio woulda happened. but anyway everything in society, is their to condition how we think or react to certian things/events
2) some of this is in 1, but.. how are we diffrent from pets and animals?
do u know about the tavistock institute? check works on dr joseph venglos, he was a nazi, that was moved to england during operation paperclip,, he was a very high up mind controller/brainwasher
a person changes.. as in, he wouldnt see truth, he wouldnt see fact, even if it happened in front of him, his mind would edit out the infromation taken in, so it will fit his 'view'
yes it is posibble to change them back,. but conditioning like joseph venglos and, being conditioned from skewl to the now, is totally diffrent
i did this quicktime sorry
ask me more questions if any arise.,
and then ill continue with the next 2 questions.
peace koolish
Drop it like it's hot, Soul!....Nice write up, Sun!
Peace
With what I put in bold I just want to know how you know this is what happened. I guess when you answer number three and four I would have a better understanding of that. But for now you are not the said person, and do not have as much knowledge of the situation as you should. Your statement was an absolute statement, and so you need to be careful with that. All I'm asking for is evidence, not bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
I see where you're coming from. But I disagree in that there is significant difference in the process of "conditioning" as you put it from the Tavistock Insititute versus a Church. I know what happens in a Church but I won't fully respond until you reply with the other two questions.
For what you said, saying you've been conditioned to something like raise your hand if you want to talk (something taught in school) is nothing more than choice, as is performing holidays. Doing these sorts of things are traditional and accepted in society, and human beings being a social species tend to try and conform along with society. Have they been brainwashed into doing this? Have they been given subliminal messages that this is the only way to perform and their entire consciousness has been changed? I don't think there is substantial physical evidence supporting that.
My main debate with you is that there is a difference between "conditioning" and "learning". From your post it seems the only way we know how to do things is by being conditioned into doing them. I know you typed up the post quick so I don't have everything I should but this is what I understand from what I read. In your reply please tell me what the difference between learning and conditioning is according to you.
My KTL threads are the best
a yo that's true but those "priests" probly wern't TRUE christians. Acoording to their own (and my own) doctrine they WERE NOT true christians (Jesus was not pervert lol). THey acted against their own "religion". In my opinion christanity (or any "religion") when followed in a "godly" way isn't really religion. It's YOUR truth and what u make it to give your "spiritual ease".Quote:
Originally Posted by ckretwon
ahhh the old
"true" religionist factor
huh? what u mean by that
also those priest's are BAD representations of christians.
the only ultimate "authority" on what it truly means to be "christian" is the bible itself and the ancillary documents that support the bible.
being that that is the case, there are alot of things in the bible that if one did today they wouldnt be considered by subjective definition a "true xtian"