I caught the Knuckles reference. Just being sarcastic :)
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if theres one guy that will get wu fans on different sides of the fence . its ghost.
see. we Rza people never have to worry about that. we know exactly what we getting from the abbott and guess what? we love it, minus a better tomorrow. NEVER EVER EVER DO THAT AGAIN RZA.
EVERQ
You didn't like Fishscale either??! Yea bro maybe u just don't like Wu or in particular ghostface.
Or what's more likely, it's not far fetched for fans to outgrow artists' music or vice versa.
93-99/00 wu is gone bro. Appreciate the time we were in and the music we received and move on or grow with the artist. To ask an artist to continuously make the same shit or stay in the same lane isn't fair cuz eventually fans will get bored of that too and the conversation will then be "why didn't they try anything different/new".
Check the formula.
Mainstream example: jayz. Reasonable doubt, blueprint 3, and 444. RD is a classic, artist evolved and BP3 is hot garbage, and 444 is hated on by RD purists but loved by the majority.
This instance we've got Ghostface- Ironman/SC, ghostface killas/set the tone, and SC2. Classic, hot garbage, hated by purists but loved by the majority.
Mostly right. You're not accurate about Wu purists reception of this album tho. Most Wu purists I know, including me and alot of online and media personalities who are known Wu/Ghost fans (like Charlamagne), are digging this album. Some were offput by the SC2 name but once they got over that they sat down and realized how fucking dope this album is. How can you be a fan of Ghost and not like songs like Georgy Porgy, Zoom, Candyland, The Trial, the 4th Disciple track...? Some of his best tracks he's put out in the last 15 years! Bunch of gems on this album that I find hard to believe real Ghost fans would hate if they actually listened to em. That noel411 loser not even liking Fishscale let's you know any opinions he has regarding Ghost or Wu should be dismissed. His music taste is ass.
It feels like Fishscale and this mixtape are made according to the same formula. The formula of thinking what makes a great Ghost album without understanding what makes a great Ghost album. Just because some songs or frafts are there, does not make it complete. Whereas Fishscale was a by the beat execution by the label based upon the previous albums, this is a mixtape done by AI.
My bet is Nas just likes Ghost a lot, and Mass Appeal gave him total creative control— two albums in one year.
Ghost, being a guy who clearly isn’t skilled at making albums, ends up putting out a mixtape. But it feels kind of unnatural. Every emcee in the world would kill for a Redman feature, and Red gets a weak intro. Styles and M.O.P.? Sorry, but they’re washed-up NY thug rappers— lyrically never on par with the Wu or a few others.
The beats are mostly boring — generic drum kits and well-known samples. Long soul loops worked on Pretty Toney and Fishscale because they were a contrast to the synth craze of that era. Times have changed, and this doesn’t sound fresh.
Music albums need real producers. Producing is a trade — a serious one.
The Zoom, Candyland, Georgy Porgy, You Ma Friend are vintage Ghost.
Could take or leave 4th, the beat doesn't do much for me, it just makes me wanna listen to impossible.
The Sale of the Century Skit should never have made the cut.
alot of the sentiment here seems to come from this idea that Ghostface owes the fans something. he doesn't lol. he's making music that you can choose to listen to or not. i don't know why people are getting so emotional about it.
Nothing will ever touch 93-97, or Supreme Clientele 1 or some of the classic tracks from the W and 8 diagrams. Nothing. NEVER. IMPOSSIBLE.
The sooner people realise that, the better.
Google : ''Ghostface Killah's Supreme Clientele 2 was executive produced by Ghostface and Shawn Wigs, who is Ghostface's half-brother and a rapper named Vito Coles. '' ----- half brother ?! LOL
''Based on the pics of the physical album, we now know Supreme Clientelle 2 is executive produced by Ghost and Shawn Wigs''
ike_tyson
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9d ago
"Shawn Wigs is the super hood dude from Theodore he can truly spit and does custom Wu merch online."
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Professional-Doubt14
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9d ago
"Shawn Wigs does meme coin rug pulls with Ghostface’s Twitter account."
Rzbowski
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9d ago
"Lol ok Shawn…"
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ClassroomMother8062
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9d ago
"Wigs the white boy from 718? Not my favorite. Hope his beats are on point"
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chano36
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9d ago
"I hope wigz ain’t all over this album man, please don’t let him be all over this album."
He probably ghostwrote "Metaphysics" & " Candyland"
All those years of riding gfk coattails has paid off for Wiggs , he got a Executive Producer credit.
ITS ALL WIGGS FAULT WUNIVERSE !!!!
Rap kingpin been getting a lot play in my house lately. That’s what brought me here
Should have called this something like ‘Sublime Clientele’ to make it more of spiritual successor and not a direct sequel.
I love this album btw. Im listening to it now, and I think this is my 17th time having it play through.
17 times in a week is quite something for me. Wouldn’t be doing so if I thought this it some B.S.
Hope that cartoon album he mentioned is on par with this in terms of quality and I’d be happy with that.
Be wild if he had a late stage purple patch.