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Hip Hop Vs. America program that came on BET was a joke. Karrine Steffans was on there giving her opinion like somebody cares what that ho bitch gotta say hahahahahahahahahahaha. I'm gonna come back later and give ya'll some statistics about black men that are very pathetic that's in Bill's book. Reading these statistics made me shake my head.
Urbanlegendmf what's gay about this topic? There's nothing gay about this topic. This topic needs to be talked about because the black public schools in the ghetto and the suburbs are terrible and they've been that way for a long time and they're never gonna change. First of all, i blame the parents of these ignorant black kids because these schools don't have to be bad. It's the ignorant kids that make the schools bad. I feel like if ignorant black kids don't wanna learn, kick their asses outta school for good and let them see how hard it is to survive on the streets with no money and no place to live because it takes a education and intelligence to require those things.
Never? That's a bit pessimistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
You could also blame segregation for fucking up those schools in the first place. Or the media for showing black kids that they don't need school. It's not all the kids and their parents fault. Granted, better parent teacher communication could help.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
Kick their asses out of school for good? Man, that wouldn't do anything. Most of these kids are dropping out before you could kick them out. I think we've got to put more vocational training in high schools so the education is relevant to the kids. That would keep them from acting out and make them interested.
No doubt. i would have loved to read it too.
Isn't Bill Cosby Boule?
What does Boule mean? Here's the statistics that i got from the book about black men.
1. Homicide is the #1 cause of death for black men between 15 and 29 years of age and has been for decades.
2. Of the roughly 16,000 homicides in this country each year, more than half are committed by black men. A black man is 7 times more likely to commit a murder than a white man and 6 times more likely to be murdered. Black mothers live with these numbers. I don't know how they sleep at night.
3. 94% of all black people who are murdered are murdered by other black people.
4. The life expectancy at birth of black men is 69 years compared to 75 years for white men, 80 for white women and 76 for black women.
5. In the past several decades, the suicide rate among young black men has increased more than 100%.
6. In some cities, black males have high school drop out rates of more than 50%.
7. Young black men are twice as likely to be unemployed as white, hispanic, and asian men.
8. Although black people make up just 12% of the general population, they make up nearly 44% of the prison population.
9. At any given time, as many as 1 in 4 of all young black men are in the criminal justice system. They're in prison or jail, on probation or on parole.
10. By the time they reach their mid 30's, 6 out of 10 black high school dropouts have spent time in prison.
11. About 1/3 of the homeless are black men.
I just would like to point out with the decision in Brown vs. The Board of education of Topeka Kansas, there is no such thing as a "black" public school. They have become integrated. While they may have less funding, be in poorer income communities, and have a majority of black students, segregation ain't legal fools.
^ Yeah haven't yall seen Lean on Me?
man, michelle pfeiffer and a soundtrack including a wide spectrum of artists ranging from Bob Dylan to Coolio could fix all these problems
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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
im white and im saying i switch it up somtimes. look talk the way you want to talk its all good. you can do that. but honestly, the way i look at it, im just being smart about shit. when im with my boys or just fucking around i talk way differently than when im with co-workers/bosses/(used to be and soon to be agian)professors.
its like if you at work and you wanna talk about some funny shit about how you fucked this chick and gave her a dirty sanchez and shit but you work in front of girls you cant say that kinda shit. they can sue for sexual harrassment. same with anyone with a hardcore ghetto slang (not judging his character whatsoever). obviously you cant get sued for that but you will be looked upon in a certain way.
i curtail my slang around certain people. its just part of life. imus would still have a job if he curtailed his shit, and im pretty sure given the chance to do it again he would have done it differently. (once again i do not agree with what he said)
ya so your a fuckin part time wigger is what your saying
having your real dad around at a young age is huge. that is where the problems start. real dads dont play. we will smack the shit out of our kids. these fucking step dads out there are afraid of the kids that mommy brings into the relationship. if you bring kids into this world and cannot hold the relationship together with the person you made the kid(s) with you have failed them and you set them up with failure before they can even walk. ~cases of a parent dying during child's young age is a different topic.~Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
Your right. That's the problem now with these bad ass black kids. The parents are afraid to whip their kids when they get outta line and i bet if these bad kids had their asses whipped when they act up, they would think twice about being bad. I think what parents also need to do is give their kids a alternative by telling them that if they don't wanna listen to what their parents are telling them, then they can get outta their house and go live on the streets and see how it is on the streets when you have no money and no intelligence.
Black Public Schools Are A Joke
What do you expect them to be ?
a black public school in white america can be nothing else but a joke
are you in someone elses home being fed and taken cared of ?Quote:
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or do you have your own ?
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how old are you ?
If Nam is so damn weak, and the US is so damn strong, explain to me why our armed forces got our asses kicked. Through and through. Are you some kind of anti-US Anarchist? I don't like our government either; but it isn't the psychotic evil force that you and Michael Moore make it out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug It Iz
Individuals like you and me can't really help put an end to homelessness. Sure, we can give them money or volunteer at soup kitchens or clothing drives, but the real problem lies in the government and the social conditions that create homelessness.
Sunny Winters i live with my parents but that's because i have a learning disability and that is preventing me from getting a good job so i can get my own place. I have 2 jobs right now but they don't pay enough so i can live in a nice neighborhood on my own. So it's not like i chose to live with my parents and i like living with my parents because believe me if i didn't have this disability problem, i would've been on my own a long time ago. I haven't been diagnosed for a learning disability yet but i'm gonna see a doctor next year and see if i can get diagnosed. I already saw a psychiatrist several times and he told me i have A.D.D. which is attention deficit disorder. I don't believe that i have that because i did some research on A.D.D. and that's not what is wrong with me. I did do some research about a learning disability and the information i read definitely describes what's wrong with me.
This problem i have is why i've had a lot of low paying jobs and i haven't been able to keep a job for a long time. Only job i've had for a long time is janitorial work and i'm tired of doing that type of work because it's the only job i can keep and it's the only job i'm good at doing because i've tried other jobs before like factory work, stocking shelves with products at Walmart and Target, warehouse work and i'm not good at those jobs. Jobs that pay good that require me to use my brain are the jobs that i suck at. I'm 31 Sunny Winters and i don't see what my age has to do with the comments i've made about homeless people.
You see; many homeless people are just like you. Except for the fact that they had no one that cared enough about them to give them a home. You're lucky to have people that care; don't speak ill of those that don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
I'm lucky that i'm not homeless because i was almost close to being homeless about 5 years ago because i couldn't keep a job and when i was working, the jobs i was getting were low paying jobs so the money wasn't enough for me to take care of myself. My father came to get me in Columbus, Ohio 5 years ago and moved me back to Cleveland with him and my mom because when he came to get me, my life was headed nowhere. I was very depressed that i couldn't get a good job and i couldn't get a nice car because the car i was driving at the time was a beat up 1986 Chevy Nova and the car eventually died on me. I had to catch the bus to work and i hate riding the bus. I even had to ask my co-workers if they could give me a ride home because there was no bus that came to my job when i got off work at night and i don't like asking co-workers for a ride home.
My life right now is a little better since i'm working 2 jobs but i still get depressed and think about suicide sometimes because i don't think my life will ever get better. I'm scared to go back to school to learn some job careers and i don't wanna apply for a school loan and have to be worried about paying back a loan when the classes are over with if i was to go back to school. When i go see a doctor and if he tells me i have a brain problem, then i might have to get some money from the government to live off of the rest of my life. I'd rather work but if my brain won't allow me to concentrate and figure things out, then i can't get a good job. I should've noticed that something was wrong with my brain when i was in middle school because that's when i started having problems in school. I had a difficult time with high school also and i should've gotten help from a doctor then to see what was wrong with me.
I don't understand you. You've tasted the brink of homelessness, and know just how truly painful it is, and you said all that shit about homeless people.Quote:
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understood - sorry about your condition - check for lead poisoning - i've been homeless in the streets enough times to tell you that its not all what you may think - depression can be an issue and is slept onQuote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
bad housing conditions
I don't believe that life is always what you make it - sometimes other peoples choices can harm you - i've seen children living in cardboard boxes on the side walk - they didn't choose that life - and many of those who you may think can just get up off of their assess and get a job, really are not mentally capable of doing so - or just doesn't fit white americas profile and they get rejected - if you are good at cleaning, why not just work for self by going to certain stores/supermarkets or commercial buildings and talk to someone about keeping the place clean - make up some flyers, clean homes - make some business cards up - work for self -
Alright i'm sorry for what i said but the difference between me and homeless people is that i don't drink alcohol, don't smoke cigarettes and i don't do drugs. I do believe i have a brain problem but i do what i have to do to make sure i get a job and i don't waste time talking to negative people who aren't doing shit with their life and that's what homeless people do.
Charles. The day all homeless people drink alchohol, smoke, and do drugs is the day I square dance naked on the white house lawn. Don't generalize.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
I just told you i don't wanna do janitorial work anymore. I've done that type of work since i've been outta high school and i'm tired of it. I've had about 5-6 janitorial jobs before and i'm tired of it because the pay is always low and the work is demeaning. I used to clean toilets at a grocery store before and there was this one incident where somebody took a shit in the stall and i had to clean that shit up and it smelled bad. I was pissed about that because i couldn't believe somebody would be that trifling to take a shit in a stall instead of taking a shit in a toilet that you have to sit down on.
Charles; be grateful that you have a job. Try taking some courses overnight at a community college; or something. You have a chance to further yourself, most homeless people don't and never will again.Quote:
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i suggest that you leave the internet alone for a while - try exercising - go out for long walks - are you a sociable person ?
talk to people - offline - how is family - do they help - do they understand ?
help others - find some old folks for you to help - being helpful to others can give you a sense of being needed - go out and be needed - mae people laugh - watch comedy shows - go out to a comedy show - Get some medication that will balance your mind out - try st. johns wort - talk to a psychologist
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the people who hire you to do the cleaning get about 35 to 40 dollars for that day you cleaned - some get more - if you knock out the middle man, you can get all of that money for yourself - so if you're making 6 to 8 dollars and hour to clean an office building for 3 hours, thats only 18 to 24 dollars for those three hours when you can make up to 100 to 150 dollars for those 3 hours -
I don't wanna own a business doing janitorial work. I've talked to my parents about my problem and my dad doesn't understand it at all. He's even yelled at me when i told him that i might be able to get money from the government because of my problem and he told me how much money do i think the government is gonna give me. He said it won't be enough for me to take care of myself. Then he said i refuse to read and study and i'm lazy. Those were his words about me. My mom i think understands my problem but she suggests that i should go back to school and take one job course but i told her i don't wanna go back to school because i don't like school. I'm not gonna waste money going back to school.
Charles. If your mindset is that education is a waste of money; then you're no different than what you talked about in your first posts. People not willing to leave their situations; being too lazy to do anything. Take a shot.Quote:
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I've seen a psychiatrist already and he prescribed me some medication but i didn't take it because i don't believe pills will help my brain to think better and be able to concentrate which would help me get a good job. Pills aren't gonna help me to get a good job. If pills helped homeless people with mental problems, believe me they would be able to get jobs.
snce you don't want to do any of the things listed, what do you think that you should do ?
and which one of these things do you think that you'll have to do even if you don't want to ?
office building cleaning is actually a good idea for your own business. my boss looked into it. in some cities there is a lot of competition though.
are you there man ?Quote:
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Originally Posted by NickyTooch
not in the least. i dont act gangster, i dont try to, i dont want to. i just have a slang to me. words you just incorporate into your vocabulary from songs, movies, life, ect. but they arent always appropriete for certain situations. thats what i mean.
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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
do i see some tears coming from those wolves eyes?
yo on the real ok, youve solved it. whites dont care. so that only leaves blacks to do something about it. if you think whites dont care/wont do anything. blacks have to step up. they are equally at fault, at this day in age.
nah - if it was a wolf, i'm sure you would be sympathetic to its needsQuote:
Originally Posted by whitey
its a panther
do you see tears coming from its eyes
i agree - we do have to step up - and step onQuote:
Originally Posted by whitey
I was listening to this today from his Soul On Ice album. He was dropping some serious knowledge about the history of america and foreign countries. Ras Kass is very intelligent. It's very rare to hear rappers that read books and i can tell Ras definitely reads a lot because he has several songs on Soul On Ice that he's talking about the politics and history of america and how foul white people are.