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I agree with Diggy. Blacks have been through a lot of terrible things in america and we're still dealing with racism. But blacks do have themselves to blame for their ignorance now because whites aren't forcing them to kill each other, sell drugs, drop outta school, bullying kids, having babies outta wedlock.
you making my point without knowing it...i could name others..but thats a history book for you to read, let me go on record and say arabs were enslaving each other and others before the blacks were brought to america, the only difference is, there was alot of focus put on that, i wont even talk about countries right now in africa where kids are sold into mines to dig for the same diamonds and jewels people of the west enjoy so much without second thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by diggy
but back to proving my point, you said it..an ethnicity that went through all this should be more tied together in unity than any other in the world, blacks should be the strongest army in this country no one can infiltrate or even influence against each other and yet, every day, black men kill each other like flies, everyday,another fatherless home is created etc, in a country where the system is already built to defeat you, this is where you unify, this is where you all join forces to create yours, its not impossible,some have done it..they gave no excuses, a few days ago..a man died who fought for a country that dealt with apartheid..i lived it..i lived the racism of south africa and still..south africans today make no excuses,they took their country back and they thrive ,struggle or not, they dont wait for the white man,they arent hoping for reperations, they are doing their thing, living in south africa as a ghanian,i can tell u that, south africans will come together to destroy some shit before they will ever let anyone else destroy their own, and these are people from diffferent tribes who speak different languages and yet, when its time to come together as a united front for their own..they will, so whats the excuse here? why do some blacks here conspire to take down other blacks? ill wait
and i gotta ask you people..which blacks in america are u talking about?
the negropeans, the euroblacks? the sambos? the moors? or the african american black man?
because if we are talking about the african american black man (who have become a very small minority in todays society in america) then thats another whole discussion.
I don't know why black men hate each other so much now. This is why i don't have a lot of black men friends because their ignorance pisses me off. Blacks do need to unify instead of hating each other because hating each other isn't gonna help us succeed. Black women aren't any better because they would rather be with black or white men that are rich instead of being with black men that got regular jobs which they may not be making a lot of money but they're good black men. I love black women but they love being golddiggers and having a attitude and they don't have no shame about it. They got the nerve to say black men ain't no good LOL. Black women ain't shit either LOL.
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Originally Posted by diggy
Actually, in Africa, our ancestors sold their own into slavery.
I do agree with what you're stating, though. We as a people haven't advanced even though we live in the greatest country in the world.
In 2013, racism isn't an excuse anymore to be a failure in America (depending on the individual's situation and their background); There's no excuse for our children to live in poverty cycles with women who're the head of the household; There's no excuse for role reversal in the black community. Most importantly, we as a people can't seem to trust each other.
Our decisions as a people are extremely crucial for our advancement but we haven't taken advantage of the opportunities that are presented to us. Why? Discouragement.
and u actually believe this bullshit propaganda spawned by white guilt??Quote:
Originally Posted by IrOnMaN
do you know the story of the ghanian king,who's head was just returned to ghana from spain who was beheaded in the slavery days because he refused to give up his people??
ill wait
if someone came to your backyard shooting canons and guns and all u had was a spear...do u think theres much of a choice there...do u actually believe those slave owners would really take time to trade with what they considered animals and less than human entities....employ common sense sir
please try and refrain from calling those people black..they are negropeans..black people in this country would kill for their own,black people in this country dont wear other ethnicities hair or look in the mirror and wish to be lighter skinned....lets try and make the contrast here...alot of the ones who hate black people and try to kill them are negropeans..they a whole different breed of brainwashed individualQuote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
I don't believe in the 'white guilt'. As a child, I had a hard time accepting the fact that our ancestors just laid down without a fight. The Indians didn't laid down for anyone and yet fought the white man. I'm pretty sure our ancestors in Africa fought too but the slave trade was such a great business, black Kings were paid off well and they had black slaves of their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
I agree with you, though. We as a people can do better but we're limited by resources and trust.
http://w.africanoutlookonline.com/in...ars&Itemid=649
time to get those knowledge bars up g
either way ive said what i wanna say on the topic. blacks can be powerful if they come together in this country and stop the self hate.yall have a great weekend
Radioman, you say we should be close nit? Well, we were.....until FEMINISM!!!!
You made another mistake...comparin our plight to that of south africans. Sout africa is there own contry. They were not robbed from it. They have their own language and culture. NO COMPARISON!!!!
Another display of the division i spoke on earlier..does it matter if u have your own country or not? Let me tell u the real issue here...it is injustice...no matter where u are,if u are mistreated based on color,creed etc..its still injustice...if someone mistreats u because of their skin color and socio economic.privledge,thats racial injustice, your own country or not, this is yet another issues between alot of blacks in this country, a mentality where most judge each other based on accemts and area codes, to a.point where some have killed each other based on this dynamic without taking into account that the underlining factor here is bigger than a meer geographical position...do u understand how much of.a.defeated state of mind that is? When certain black men cant go.to certain hoods just because...do u see how weak and petty that is, no hommie..the main plight was the same. Racial injustice.
lol that reality it's relevant to 90% of black people. Maybe 17-29 year old males in urban housing projects who, since they dominate rap music, are allowed to paint the narrative for the rest of the black race and world because rap is deeper than life, but nobody is getting shot because of their area code unless they're a member of a very minuet fringe of black youths that make a lot of rap music. That's just not the reality for most black americans. I've come to learn that most black americans are working to lower middle class. Statistics reaffirm this, and these stories don't match their reality.
Most black people don't encounter white people. They literally choose when they want to see white people but can completely avoid the experience. There are also enough black people in power for 'discrimination' to not be an issue. Its the one's living outside of 'black america' that encounter white people and face discrimination sometimes like myself. Otherwise most black people have never been called the N-word, let alone had a negative encounter with a white person. The ones that have, like myself, will tell you right now it's no big fucking deal at all and no different then the excessive negative encounters you'll have with other black people.
consider this. Black people are so isolated from white people and the white american world that, even as a minority, they have preserved and developed their own accent and lexicon. Both of my parents have an accent and I speak another language in the home but I still don't have the same accent, but black Americans have their own because they in all honestly only deal with each other.
If white people don't like black people fine but it's no longer a determinant factor towards your success. There are things that can hinder your success like speaking dense incomprehensible ebonics, having a ratchet ass name, or not knowing mainstream american social behavior BECAUSE of your excessive isolation from mainstream white america but the same thing is hindering hillbillies and hicks that have had the same excessive isolation.
typically the people sold were people that were caught in war or kidnapped, so it wasn't a matter to lying down 'without a fight'. They already fought by the time they reached America, and the native americans were in their own land. It was completely impossible and futile for black americans to fight when they were totally surrounded, outnumbered and in a strange placeQuote:
Originally Posted by IrOnMaN
Radio, you are just not getting it. You are making comparisons, but I am showing you there are none and that our situation is unique in that we ar being attacked by systematic forces. You have a closed mind and think that we could still make it if we come together, but those forces already have a plan against that in motion.
You ignore the facts. You brought up tewrritory and accents and tsz brought up rap, proving that my point went over yall heads. I'm finished..no point in me continuing on. This is not a real debate.
No homie...u think south africans arent being attacked by a systematic.force.....im speaking from the point of view of someone well travlled and someone who has lived there...u are the closed minded one believing that only you go through the struggles u face,u would be shocked at what happens outside your america...i speak from.experience, u speaking from assumption and im.closed minded? Ok buddy
You can sit on the internet here and debate with me all day, there are things put in place for u to survive your hell, u have basic things some outside your world wouldnt dream about...u seriously wanna go with the comparison argument,then ill say this,compared to blacks in alot of placez in the world...u should be grateful,stfu and stop whining about how hard your life is. U really have no fucking idea