Black Man's Thread

I agree with you that all subjects in this nature not only need to be talk and discussed but should be. but there are different ways of going about it.
For example, you want to talk to white people about what went down in the past, they know what there ancestors did, yet how can you talk to them? and debate about what happened, and how things could get better in the future, when usually the first thing that is spoken is, i am god, you are a devil.
For some reason i just cannot see how that is going to benefit anybody, or ever create and form of progress as to help people to see past genetic and physiological traits that are our only real differences.
Granted that a lot of people that debate on this subject in this forum, automatically jump at the word "racism" at the first chance they get regardless of what colour they are, everybody knows "African" people were dealt the worst injustice in the history of mankind, nobody can deny this, and it is not like anybody can just brush this under the carpet.
This matter should be discussed souly for the reason to stop something like it ever recurring in the future the any of mankind period. You speak alot of valid points also, but i still believe you enjoy trying too divide people.

The point you're failling to understand is that it is not the "black man" which is used as tools but the whole middle and poor class regardless of skin.

As Immortal technique said in Poverty of philosophy :
My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-Fuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.

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Originally Posted by The Origin

I agree with you that all subjects in this nature not only need to be talk and discussed but should be. but there are different ways of going about it.
For example, you want to talk to white people about what went down in the past, they know what there ancestors did, yet how can you talk to them? and debate about what happened, and how things could get better in the future, when usually the first thing that is spoken is, i am god, you are a devil.
For some reason i just cannot see how that is going to benefit anybody, or ever create and form of progress as to help people to see past genetic and physiological traits that are our only real differences.
Granted that a lot of people that debate on this subject in this forum, automatically jump at the word "racism" at the first chance they get regardless of what colour they are, everybody knows "African" people were dealt the worst injustice in the history of mankind, nobody can deny this, and it is not like anybody can just brush this under the carpet.
This matter should be discussed souly for the reason to stop something like it ever recurring in the future the any of mankind period. You speak alot of valid points also, but i still believe you enjoy trying too divide people.

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How am I trying to divide people when I a white dude is speaking in favor of the oppressed? I do not deny my acts, or my fore-fathers acts against people of color. I speak up, and in the best I can, fight on that behalf.

If I'm bringing up valid points, in my opinion, that goes against me causing division. When I say that everybody except for white people are the SAME that's not division that's unity. Do you say that? Black, brown, yellow, red people are all one people(they don't even know this)....this is what I know and understand to be true. That's no division!!! I seperate white people from people of color because I know we're different, physically, genetically, spiritually, and mentally. I understand the principle of vibration and all things vibrate. The vibration of black, brown, yellow, and red people is different than that of white. People of color vibrate in natural harmony with nature while white people don't. Look around and observe. We have to be taught these things. We have to be taught right from wrong. Don't believe me....what do you think masonry is? Not masonry of the ancient times but freemasons! We learn how to act and do like indeginous people among other things. Those are the people(white masons) who know the truth but typically keep it secret. That's why they fly the flag of islam but it has a sword on top. My knowledge comes from the original people of this planet, just as all knowledge comes from the original people of this planet.

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Originally Posted by frosted592

The point you're failling to understand is that it is not the "black man" which is used as tools but the whole middle and poor class regardless of skin.

As Immortal technique said in Poverty of philosophy :
My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-Fuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.

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Thats the truth and by the way "Blackman" is a white boy

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Originally Posted by Charging Soldier

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Look at this. A so-called indian who doesn't know what direction to go in. Only an ignorant person would use the word "nigga." You use it, but you don't know what it means, or where it came from. Original people are the creators of the highest form of civilization, but you've fell from the grace of god(which is your own self if you truly are indian) using terms like this and eating DOG in this day and time. I know more about your people than you do. Think I don't? Who do you think is the holder of information. It was white people who not only stole your knowledge, we kept it for ourselves or simply destroyed it. And yes, it gets passed down from generation to generation.

You think you're disrespecting me, but you're not, you're disrespecting every black person when you use that term. :loser: Tsk tsk....you should feel ashamed of yourself. Sinking down to name calling, you're using all of your brain power huh???? Pork is known to decrease the mental powers of people, and pork is made up cat, rat, and dog. Yes the dog is unclean to eat. Leave it alone, get your mind right black man!!! You're better than that.

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Originally Posted by frosted592

The point you're failling to understand is that it is not the "black man" which is used as tools but the whole middle and poor class regardless of skin.

As Immortal technique said in Poverty of philosophy :
My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-Fuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.

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Classism has it's foundation in racism. It will always go back to the color of skin. I understand class and how it effects people regardless, but you fail to realize that even those poor white people have a upper hand on blacks in america. They're not getting profiled, their churches are not under constant survellience, their history hasn't been erased, etc. etc.

Class was introduced along with the "constitution." Class was used so that the poor (whites) people at the time didn't feel they were on the same level as blacks who at the time were still property.

So I hear what "immortal technique" is saying and he's right, but as the nation of gods and earths say, he's not right and EXACT!!!!

As wise as immortal is, the best source of racism/classism is the people who created it.

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Look at this. A so-called indian who doesn't know what direction to go in. Only an ignorant person would use the word "nigga." You use it, but you don't know what it means, or where it came from. Original people are the creators of the highest form of civilization, but you've fell from the grace of god(which is your own self if you truly are indian) using terms like this and eating DOG in this day and time. I know more about your people than you do. Think I don't? Who do you think is the holder of information. It was white people who not only stole your knowledge, we kept it for ourselves or simply destroyed it. And yes, it gets passed down from generation to generation.

You think you're disrespecting me, but you're not, you're disrespecting every black person when you use that term. :loser: Tsk tsk....you should feel ashamed of yourself. Sinking down to name calling, you're using all of your brain power huh???? Pork is known to decrease the mental powers of people, and pork is made up cat, rat, and dog. Yes the dog is unclean to eat. Leave it alone, get your mind right black man!!! You're better than that.

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I'm sorry first you siad I'm disrespecting blacks, now your saying I am black.............

NIGGA PLEASE!

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Originally Posted by Charging Soldier

I'm sorry first you siad I'm disrespecting blacks, now your saying I am black.............

NIGGA PLEASE!

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People on the internet are funny. Now what I should do is stop allowing indians to have casinos and cut off their source of income. I should go to your reservation (which is on the poor part) with a barrell of fire-water, and past out more blankets to the already declining population of indians and finish what my people started.

Name calling don't hurt my feelings. All you can now do is resort to childish name calling because your intellectual faculties are being clogged up with dog meat and synapse can't happen fast enough for you to keep up. :yes: You wanna shut me down, use some type of intelligence..."n*gga" is not intelligent, and it doesn't do anything to me. All you do is prove my point more and more everytime you speak, which is....you're people are f*cked up in the game, black people (african) are the lowest on the totem pole of every part of life, you don't know who you are, you're indoctrinated into white supremecy....

Come now charging soldier....my great grand pops took pokohontis from you, don't make me come and take the 2006 version of her from you....you know I can do it. White people have that effect.

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Originally Posted by Black Man

People on the internet are funny. Now what I should do is stop allowing indians to have casinos and cut off their source of income. I should go to your reservation (which is on the poor part) with a barrell of fire-water, and past out more blankets to the already declining population of indians and finish what my people started.

Name calling don't hurt my feelings. All you can now do is resort to childish name calling because your intellectual faculties are being clogged up with dog meat and synapse can't happen fast enough for you to keep up. :yes: You wanna shut me down, use some type of intelligence..."n*gga" is not intelligent, and it doesn't do anything to me. All you do is prove my point more and more everytime you speak, which is....you're people are f*cked up in the game, black people (african) are the lowest on the totem pole of every part of life, you don't know who you are, you're indoctrinated into white supremecy....

Come now charging soldier....my great grand pops took pokohontis from you, don't make me come and take the 2006 version of her from you....you know I can do it. White people have that effect.

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Spoken like a true devil.})

Okay, I understand what you mean... But I think saying classism is related to racism is retarded... The conception of class within a society goes back thousands of years in the past, before races were mixed up... I don't live in america so I can't talk about if your wrong or not about black being profiled and their church beiing on constant surveillance but where I live there is no such thing

I'm white and I'm constantly harassed by the police. As living in the french part of america my ancestor has been profiled and turn to silent since canada took possessions of our culture

People always have ways to divide large complex concepts into smaller things to study in portions and after thread them all together again.

Some of those may have racial intentions and those are the ones you chose to discuss, however, of course there are other ways to "separate" things.

In my mind, class came first. They came up with racism to create a class that would not be able to escape from slavery then assimilate into the mainstream. If they had just enslaved white folk, which logistically would have been easier, they could have escaped and said "i was never a slave" but when someones a different color you can spot them quickly

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Originally Posted by Black Man

People on the internet are funny. Now what I should do is stop allowing indians to have casinos and cut off their source of income. I should go to your reservation (which is on the poor part) with a barrell of fire-water, and past out more blankets to the already declining population of indians and finish what my people started.

Name calling don't hurt my feelings. All you can now do is resort to childish name calling because your intellectual faculties are being clogged up with dog meat and synapse can't happen fast enough for you to keep up. :yes: You wanna shut me down, use some type of intelligence..."n*gga" is not intelligent, and it doesn't do anything to me. All you do is prove my point more and more everytime you speak, which is....you're people are f*cked up in the game, black people (african) are the lowest on the totem pole of every part of life, you don't know who you are, you're indoctrinated into white supremecy....

Come now charging soldier....my great grand pops took pokohontis from you, don't make me come and take the 2006 version of her from you....you know I can do it. White people have that effect.

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First the jews now the natives... why don't you just kill all of us. Kill all the "colored" people then say you did it for the oppressed? dee dee dee

LHX can you ban this idiot or something? He never makes an actual point and hes clogging up the site.

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who says you need to focus strictly on the racial aspects of his thread? Of course they cannot be totally ignored but need to be acknowledged, but on the other hand, a lot of the racial discussion has already been beaten to the ground.

there are other concepts that have been underlooked.