no..i just think sunny says things that alotta u folks dont wanna hear.the cold hard facts,sometimes the truth can be very unbearable for some folks here..atleast he aint living in an unrealistic world like half of u...
sunny cool as far as im concerned
peace SUNNy
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Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter
I don't hate Sunny, and I certainly don't connect his behavior with that of black people as a whole, but dude is pretty far-removed from reality.
The thing is that, depending on your perspective, you will view what sunny says two ways.
Being that he uses truth's but than distorts them (or is taught to by his cult), he opens himself up.
Couple that with the fact that he is vague and fleeting with most of what he says and its will come across as controversial.
I think he speaks the truth on some things, but on others i agree with Dan. THis dude is pretty far-removed from reality.
who gets to define "reality"?Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
if you're upset with the entire infrastructure of your surroundings wouldn't you aim for a removal from said reality?
I mean look at Ted Kazinsky (sp?)
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Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
Well than why don't you go all Ted Kazinsky???
You won't because you have a rational mind and realize that that is not a viable nor effective option.
PLus you have something to lose, as most people do.
You can define reality however you like....you have options. Kazinsky had option. Its just he was emotionally unbalanced.
Its all about balance.
Now you're getting very abstract here. I am not going to get philosophical and define reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
Are you saying Ted Kazinsky is a role model?
Ted Kazinsky was a terrorist. I totally understand where he was coming from with his opinions about technology. His problem was not interpreting reality. His problem was dealing with it. He then blew up innocent people and did nothing to help his cause.
Sunny, however, makes baseless, self-serving assertions, draws conclusions using faulty logic, and makes dangerous and inflammatory statements, and claims obscure theories as fact.
I think he is well-intentioned, but cares more about advancing his agenda than dealing with truth or reality.
I agree with that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter
I bring up Ted's leaving-in-a-log-cabin ass as a point to show that distaste with reality as it stands can bring about a conscience efffort to remove yourself from that reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
Ted's an extreme but as always there's a sliding scale in the personal degree of seperation.
Too much extreme is never good. At least not on the planet we inhabit.
no one in there right mind would agree with Ted's actions and extremist are always dangerous. Their own rationality will mean more than another's life, meaning because of it people die.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
But I don't think enough is done to look at why those extremist exist in the first place. How many people randomly picked off the street would be able to tell you what happened in Iran during the 1950's? Those same people that don't know a thing about it will almost definitely have an opinion on muslim extremist.
In general, ignorance is THE enemy.
Yea, but you can't expect everyone to know every detail about every happening in every corner of the world.
The same way you cannot expect everyone to have an understanding of mathematics or science.
The masses will always remain ignorant of everything going on in foreign policy (regardless of your country).
I follow the news and there is stuff you can come up with daily that I dont know.
But understand that really up until the 90's and this decade did we have an real connection with the Muslim world that the average AMerican knew of.
I think you need to start introduced some cirriculum on what Islam is...or on a larger scale, they need to up the ante on WORLD HISTORY or CURRENT EVENTS instead of getting beat over the head with American History.
But still, even if they do that, people just want to go about their lives. They dont give a fuck what happened in Iran in the 50's.
Just like they don't give a fuck about what happend in Europe in the first half of the 20th century aside from when the US got involved.
its too much....
I dont kno shit about engineering.....would it benefit me to know how a suspension bridge is built and works???
I guess, but really, I dont care. Let the engineers handle that.
But it doesnt hurt to scratch the surface,so I agree in prinicple with you.
my grammar is TSA like today
My thing though is that the masses have an opinion on that particular subject but then there's almost zero effort to truly understand the situation. We'd let personal freedoms go out the window with things like the Patriot Act but then not learn what caused people to be so upset in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
I don't know where you'd start in trying to solve the problem when the whole system doesn't exactly encourage real thinking and if you're not asking questions you won't get any answers.
You don't have to know engineering to drive over a bridge, I understand that you can't possibly know everything about everything but certain things shape life more than others.
true, i see ur point.
I'm reading a good book right now about the similarities between the dealing with the Iraq and Vietnam war.
Its called Iraq, Vietnam and the Limits of American Power.
It essentially deals with the mistakes made by both administrations in how to deal with situations like these.
You'd be surprised how many times they have had good intelligence and just ignored it or did their own things.
Its open to interpretation why and I'm sure the conspiracy theorists would have a field day with it.