to be a patriot is to be an idiot?

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Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG

There are many groups. Although 80% of Russia claim Russian identity, most places that are sparsely settled in the central and Siberian regions. You could call them many ""indigenous" groups, however because of how isolated they are in the landmass that Russia claims.

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No Wucorp member would seriously consider a herding lifestyle. Kinda reaching there....

Anyway lets get to the meat. They are tied to Russia's currency and will. Despite "feeling like their not a part of the Russian federation"

The Isolationists have a moving home(that follows their herds). But they also have their own "Isolationist" Buryat rulebook where they expect "charity to the needy".

The notion that Abanks could relate to a "Siberian Nomad" more than his actual neighbors is not very credible.

Whoever feels so isolated they cannot relate to their neighbors would be a depressed mother fucker. And I would sincerely feel sorry for that person/people.

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Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG

I dont know how patriotic each of these ethnic groups are towards Russia. Some might be and some have history like the Buryats of being "rebels". You can also google the Evenkis.

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I would consider this similar to a state-nation patriotism discussion?? If California had some type of beef with the larger rest of America. Than each Individual in California(and Buryat) would need to decide if they are a citizen of America(Russia) or a citizen of California(Buryat). Its up to the individual if dual-citizenship is a possibility. Patriots of both sides would/should exist.

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Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG

I dont want to get into distingishing "patriot" and "rebel" though since they can be similar and different.

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Yes, i have been trying to get people to accept the possibility that a "rebel" could be patriotic but they have very thick skulls.

Thanks for the intelligent and evidence backed response.

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Originally Posted by abanks47

I think its very unfair of you, someone who is in no position to state who and who isn't a patriot to go on ahead and state that someone cannot be a patriot because there not a citizen. Whether it be a slave or an immigrant.

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Hahahaha Ok - Sure - Fine. We will move into the figurative definition of "Patriot" and include people who love, support, defend their whip-carrying slave owners.
-To those dumb niggas I say "Run where they wont find you! They are not your friends and they have proven they dont love,support,defend you!"

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Originally Posted by abanks47

You say everyone knows this but I didn't and no one else mentioned it in this thread but you. ,

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I cannot believe you are such a big fat fucking idiot you think a patriot doesn't need a country to support.

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Originally Posted by abanks47

I want to live in America but I don't think it's necessary to be a patriot in order for it to run successfully and efficiently.

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If you live in America I think you do NEED to be a patriot. Otherwise your an isolated individual who doesn't care for your neighbors.

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Originally Posted by abanks47

thought that definitions of words, were word's defining points, broken down so that we could understand what a word meant.

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You know how to look up the word "definition" but you we're unable to see it in more than one context.

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Originally Posted by abanks47

I'll say whatever the fuck I want, because I live in America, land of the free. that also means if i choose to not be a flag waving patriot that I can still live here and have the same rights you do.

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Dude, I'm not going to change the law but I would if I could. Does my point of view upset your measly little ass-hole that much?

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Originally Posted by abanks47

Go on shed a tear.

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I honestly think your swollen eyes would shed less tears if you lived in Africa. But you want to be a cry baby.

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Originally Posted by UnequivocallyCorrect

Hahahaha Ok - Sure - Fine. We will move into the figurative definition of "Patriot" and include people who love, support, defend their whip-carrying slave owners.
-To those dumb niggas I say "Run where they wont find you! They are not your friends and they have proven they dont love,support,defend you!"

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Nothing for me to battle here, all ignorant bullshit. make a point or don't quote me. Just to name a few former slave patriots you may want to read up on Frederick Douglass (first patriotic act- whipped his slave owner), Harriet Tubman (If you don't know some of the things she did, jump off a building dumb bitch), Nat Turner (Led the biggest slave rebellion in US history), Booker T Washington (helped in the advancement of black education). Cant forget about Cinque, he'd slash your fuckin throat if he knew you were talking this bullshit.

How about blacks immediately after the emancipation? Since they are now technically citizens should they now be patriots in a land that literally taunts, abuses and murders them for fun and for being slightly different. Fuck that, I think there hatred for there country, if it existed, was justified and they have the right to live in this country just as much as George Washington.

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I cannot believe you are such a big fat fucking idiot you think a patriot doesn't need a country to support.

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don't want to sound like a corny bitch but home is where the heart is fag, I mention again and will continue to mention slaves. some fought along side people who would normally spit on them, rape there fam, and kill there brothers to protect there home. if thats not patriotic than fuck it ill drink some bleach.

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If you live in America I think you do NEED to be a patriot. Otherwise your an isolated individual who doesn't care for your neighbors.

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I'm glad you just think this and it's not a fact because people know how fucking dumb this shit is. I love my neighbors and don't consider myself a patriot and I'm not an isolated person. Depends on how you define isolated but I don't think so. Checkmate, you lose.

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You know how to look up the word "definition" but you we're unable to see it in more than one context.

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I take words at there literal forms, is this a crime? If you want to explain patriot to me in the most complex and detailed way, please do so. I will read it and possibly agree with it.

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Dude, I'm not going to change the law but I would if I could. Does my point of view upset your measly little ass-hole that much?

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Why not ask Obama? he listens to you right? go on ask him, im sure he'll agree and say you know what you're right, lets take people's rights away for being different and having opposing views. You two will hold hands and skip together with flags on your lapels.

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I honestly think your swollen eyes would shed less tears if you lived in Africa. But you want to be a cry baby.

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You know i have been considering a change of scenery, maybe I might. If it will clear these darn eyes up..... you're gayness gets in the way of your posts being funny. my evidence

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Anyway lets get to the meat.

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You want to get to meat like a typical gay. bishop takes king faggot. I win.

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Originally Posted by UnequivocallyCorrect

Whoever feels so isolated they cannot relate to their neighbors would be a depressed mother fucker. And I would sincerely feel sorry for that person/people.

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Thats true. However they may be isolated to some geographical standards, they still have their neighbors and within themselves have a functioning society hence may not be depressed as we think. Dont know what the currency situation works either. They may not be using hard currency as much as some places.

Moreover, some people are more patriotic towards a municipality or province/state before a nation. They can all tie in together but some choose the local first.

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Originally Posted by UnequivocallyCorrect

Your short-sightedness has taking definitions literally to the word. And you don't see anything wrong with this? I do, Its very narrow minded.

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Its nice to see some in KTL not taking precisely defined conceptual definitions literally as some definitions change over time.

nobody in their right mind would be a patriot of this country...

Mormonism

NAMBLA (north american man-boy love association) -- yes, retard, it's real


ypu. pure american-made

To be patriot is to be a good and rational man, a man who knows where he is coming from, and knows where he is going.

And one thing, very clever thought by the way, that i heard somewhere.

You should patriot when you're abroad, in other country, by being decent and civilized, everybody can be patriots in their own country, but not anyone can be real patriot in other countries.

I've seen, many english man, and americans stumbling around my city drunk and drugged not knowing what they are doing. That's no patriotism.

To be a patriot is to know your history, and to know how to represent yours when at other people's soil.


And yeah history of your nation should be more than 2 centuries long, to know what real patriotism is.

Yep americans, i'm aiming at you.

it dont matter americans

in the next 2 years there is going to be rolling blackouts, the dollar wont be able to buy shit, and the ammo is not going to be restocked.

your on your own.

better read a book on how to trap and butcher an animal or how to grow crops and purify water

or you could just go to the government camp

post is fireeeee

and when everybodys wealth is wiped out guess who is going to be buying shit for pennies on the dollar?

and this time it is a GLOBAL DEPRESSION

get a water pruifier that doesnt rely on water pressure

power outages are coming in america

the grid is over taxed


and its planned

first its just going to be a few hours

then a few hours every day

hey no power, cuz we are the government we are declaring a national emergency, and we are declaring martial law temporarily and all you people will be begging yea! yes! martial law please do something

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Originally Posted by PALEHORSE

and when everybodys wealth is wiped out guess who is going to be buying shit for pennies on the dollar?

and this time it is a GLOBAL DEPRESSION

get a water pruifier that doesnt rely on water pressure

power outages are coming in america

the grid is over taxed


and its planned

first its just going to be a few hours

then a few hours every day

hey no power, cuz we are the government we are declaring a national emergency, and we are declaring martial law temporarily and all you people will be begging yea! yes! martial law please do something

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A water purifier like that is actually a good thing to have on hand regardless of all the future predictions you stated. A natural disaster usually puts things in perspective. I once went two straight weeks without power way back in the day because of a massive ice storm. Luckily myself, old man, relatives and family friends have experience pertaining to wilderness survival, hunting, growing crops on a small scale and building houses/shelter etc.


and for those super suburban families or project people that panic just thinking about living off the land.. good luck @ camp.

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Originally Posted by abanks47

Nothing for me to battle here, all ignorant bullshit. make a point or don't quote me. Just to name a few former slave patriots you may want to read up on Frederick Douglass (first patriotic act- whipped his slave owner), Harriet Tubman (If you don't know some of the things she did, jump off a building dumb bitch), Nat Turner (Led the biggest slave rebellion in US history), Booker T Washington (helped in the advancement of black education). Cant forget about Cinque, he'd slash your fuckin throat if he knew you were talking this bullshit. How about blacks immediately after the emancipation? Since they are now technically citizens should they now be patriots in a land that literally taunts, abuses and murders them for fun and for being slightly different. Fuck that, I think there hatred for there country, if it existed, was justified and they have the right to live in this country just as much as George Washington. don't want to sound like a corny bitch but home is where the heart is fag, I mention again and will continue to mention slaves. some fought along side people who would normally spit on them, rape there fam, and kill there brothers to protect there home. if thats not patriotic than fuck it ill drink some bleach.I'm glad you just think this and it's not a fact because people know how fucking dumb this shit is. I love my neighbors and don't consider myself a patriot and I'm not an isolated person. Depends on how you define isolated but I don't think so. Checkmate, you lose.
I take words at there literal forms, is this a crime? If you want to explain patriot to me in the most complex and detailed way, please do so. I will read it and possibly agree with it.
Why not ask Obama? he listens to you right? go on ask him, im sure he'll agree and say you know what you're right, lets take people's rights away for being different and having opposing views. You two will hold hands and skip together with flags on your lapels.
You know i have been considering a change of scenery, maybe I might. If it will clear these darn eyes up..... you're gayness gets in the way of your posts being funny. my evidence
You want to get to meat like a typical gay. bishop takes king faggot. I win.

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BUWHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

When you use LOTS of WORDS with no POINT that's RELEVANT to this TOPIC. People will realize you are off your rocker.

I told you already "Your history should not determine how you treat people today".
and your argument is still "1st president owned slaves and that HURTS me SO MUCH, I cannot relate to my neighbors"

Correct me if Im wrong, but it sounds like in 4th of July on 1777 you wanted. Abolish Slavery, Reparations, Stop Persecuting Gays, Stop DOING ANYTHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE

your mind must be narrower than a needle

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Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG

Thats true. However they may be isolated to some geographical standards, they still have their neighbors and within themselves have a functioning society hence may not be depressed as we think. Dont know what the currency situation works either. They may not be using hard currency as much as some places.

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I will take a Buddhist approach to this one.

YING: If near-by Russia was willing to make friends than ya they should be patriotic. (Russia is responsible for the land and has rightfully been protecting it from "international harm". Maybe these isolated people should show a little respect? A little is all I would ask. It shouldn't be so hard to "care")

YANG: If near-by Russia was not willing to make friends than I could see a lot of "patriotism" shrink to a local level. YES. If you ONLY identify with ONLY your block and feel like it is your "Nation" (which is really really sad) you might be considered a Patriot. However, for the most part every citizen has been benefiting from the cooperation of their neighbors (ex: taxes from all citizens). And I hope they can open their eyes relating with people who are 95% like them, maybe 85%, maybe 50%. But All of which have the responsibility to participate in thier union

Do you care about the union your neighbors have? No. So Sad.... Stop taking from them and move to Siberia where you can trade sheep skins and finally Cooperate in a union with your neighbors. That would make a happier world(you) wouldn't it?

UC's guide to becoming a PAT
Step 1. Figure out which nation your supporting
Step 2. Support it in they way you feel is best for the people in it(A Country is NOTHING without its people thats why "the people" are who you should care, support, defend)

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Originally Posted by UnequivocallyCorrect

I will take a Buddhist approach to this one.

YING: If near-by Russia was willing to make friends than ya they should be patriotic. (Russia is responsible for the land and has rightfully been protecting it from "international harm". Maybe these isolated people should show a little respect? A little is all I would ask. It shouldn't be so hard to "care")

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Who knows, some probably do show respect if they were respected. On the other hand there is Chechnya on the opposite end. I like Russia as an example...it has all spectrums of patriotism.

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Originally Posted by UnequivocallyCorrect

Do you care about the union your neighbors have? No. So Sad.... Stop taking from them and move to Siberia where you can trade sheep skins and finally Cooperate in a union with your neighbors. That would make a happier world(you) wouldn't it?

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I don't know if that was supposed to be directed at me but I don't think I've implied anything that suggests thats my stance but its far from it. There are some that might be happier trading skins in Siberia (if that's what they do) than where they currently are. Why they don't move there? Several reasons. Perhaps patriotism isnt the next life value after food clothing and shelter. Or maybe its how...they dont know how to move to Siberia, pitch a tent on some land and "try" to be accepted by the neighbors.

Overall Im can be considered a patriot to my nation. I even added a Canadian flag to the WTC smilies a few weeks back. :can: Of course some use it jokingly and randomly because its there but nevertheless I put it in the database.