If you dont like/hate on Jay Z your the worst kind

I enjoy jay-z discography but he's still mad overrated.
BP3 was good, but nothing amazing.
Would be better if he actually luanched an anti-autotune movement, not turn around and say he wasn't talking about wayne, kanye etc...

I never was a fan of jay-z but don't have nothing against him, I always thought that on every album he has few dope songs but overall they was average, maybe except Hard Knock Life. I don't have problem with him going platinum every year... He knows how to sell his shit.

blueprint 3 was so average, how can someone praise jay-z for that album?
the standards are low enough as it is!

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Originally Posted by THE FRANCHISE™

HHahahahaahaa what?

Em is not a rapper who came out in the last decade. Which im pretty sure is what I asked. Inifinite came out 96, I just Dont Give a Fuck came out 1998, My Name Is was first hitting speakers late 98.

So Idk what parameters your going on for being a who came out in the last 10 years (btw, if math isnt your strong point, thats from 2000-onwards), but Em doesnt fit in any of them

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I was regarding nearly the last decade. He wasent widely known until 99. Holy shit, sorry for not meeting yer criteria by one year

And you dont gotta break down his career and when he started, I knew about him and was hearing his shit way before anybody in yer country even knew of him

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Originally Posted by wera

And while we are at Warcloud, why isn't nobody mentioning him? Alcatraz, aren't u a big fan? Hahaha

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i think warcloud is a top five emcee of all time, and i don't think jay-z is a top five emcee of all time ... the only difference between the two is that jay's discography is stellar while warcloud's is solid but since he's underground it's kinda sketch ... his two greatest acheivements werent even actual albums but like i said before he's underground so its warranted ... personally i believe 100% warcloud > jay but obviously that won't stick with most people, cuz most people are faggits

I'm also baffled as to why Jay-Z gets so much hate on here, maybe it's because he doesn't revise the dictionary and look up science experiments to put in his lyrics like other backpacking undergrounders, I'm not sure. Jay-Z had to go through utter shit to where he is now, and even if you hate his music you should respect where he has come from, what he has done for hip hop, and how he's stayed relevant for all these years.

Reasonable Doubt was a classic, one of the greatest albums of all time. His first three volumes were dope, The Blueprint is another classic, The Black album is a banger, Kingdom Come was nice, and American Gangster was fucking awesome. Why do people always forget about American Gangster? In a few years people will be saying this is a classic, no doubt.

Say what you will about Jay-Z, but he makes good club music and he makes damn good street music whilst still maintaining a solid reputation in both waters. He's one of the greatest of all time, no doubt and is making hip hop still relevant today.

I think Jay is getting better with age in terms of his content. I used to hate Jay z until the Black Album. I mean he had some bangers but it wasn't till Black album I really started to respect his music over all. American Gangster was amazing by the way

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Originally Posted by El Don

Everyone here is a hater of someone or other, including you.

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Naw LOL not me.

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Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ

2Pac and Nas both thoroughly shit on Jay-Z's existence. Many more do as well, but these two are the forerunners. He's a nice emcee don't get me wrong, he's real technical and witty on the mic. But even Jay himself has been quoted saying that he'll never be on 2Pac's level.

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Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ

i think warcloud is a top five emcee of all time, and i don't think jay-z is a top five emcee of all time ... the only difference between the two is that jay's discography is stellar while warcloud's is solid but since he's underground it's kinda sketch ... his two greatest acheivements werent even actual albums but like i said before he's underground so its warranted ... personally i believe 100% warcloud > jay but obviously that won't stick with most people, cuz most people are faggits

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You my nigga n all but you just named a dead rapper(Pac), which doesn't have nothing to do with this thread and u really think Warcloud is better than Hova LOL. Remove yourself from this thread LOL.

I'm a jay fan I guess but this was his peak:

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Originally Posted by PolitiC

a lot of his music is wack

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i agree

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Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ

i think warcloud is a top five emcee of all time, and i don't think jay-z is a top five emcee of all time ... the only difference between the two is that jay's discography is stellar while warcloud's is solid but since he's underground it's kinda sketch ... his two greatest acheivements werent even actual albums but like i said before he's underground so its warranted ... personally i believe 100% warcloud > jay but obviously that won't stick with most people, cuz most people are faggits

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preach it brother!

warcloud



In the battle fields mics collide like sword fights
Get stabbed up by the swift technique of a Black Knight
Who pierce strikes like vicious snakes, rhymes elevate
Niggaz get sniped watch me annihilate
The Gods got me eating off a fine dinner plates
With this rap shit told me don't procrastinate
West Coast lyricist, Killa Bee clique we swarm thick
Spit the written like scripts
No but fully loaded throw darts and make it hit, the target
Pardon, me as I keep on starting, mo' shit
Feel the wrath with these raw hits from Math
You don't stand a chance, you can't top it we too advance



warcloud gets an A



jay z

No clouds in my stones
Let it rain, I hydroplane into fame (Eh, eh, eh)
Coming down with the Dow Jones
When the clouds come we gone
We roc-a-fella (Eh, eh, eh)
We fly higher than weather in G5's or better
You know me, in anticipation for precipitation
Stacks chips for the rainy day (Eh, eh, eh)


wack z gets a c.
thus, warcloud is better.

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Originally Posted by baby jesus

The Lamest Thing About The Hip Hop Shop Is The Idiotic View On Jay-z Here.

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What is the view of Jay-Z here?

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Originally Posted by wuswordz95

preach it brother!

warcloud



In the battle fields mics collide like sword fights
Get stabbed up by the swift technique of a Black Knight
Who pierce strikes like vicious snakes, rhymes elevate
Niggaz get sniped watch me annihilate
The Gods got me eating off a fine dinner plates
With this rap shit told me don't procrastinate
West Coast lyricist, Killa Bee clique we swarm thick
Spit the written like scripts
No but fully loaded throw darts and make it hit, the target
Pardon, me as I keep on starting, mo' shit
Feel the wrath with these raw hits from Math
You don't stand a chance, you can't top it we too advance



warcloud gets an A



jay z

No clouds in my stones
Let it rain, I hydroplane into fame (Eh, eh, eh)
Coming down with the Dow Jones
When the clouds come we gone
We roc-a-fella (Eh, eh, eh)
We fly higher than weather in G5's or better
You know me, in anticipation for precipitation
Stacks chips for the rainy day (Eh, eh, eh)


wack z gets a c.
thus, warcloud is better.

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LMAO I just love how u picked an obviously wack Jay-Z verse. And

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Warcloud's Discography. And another thing stop poisoning thread by discussing Warcloud when he's has nothing to do with the issue or has no reason to be mentioned.

I never liked Jay-Z because of his voice mainly and because of his pop/rnb appeal....

Besides that , dude just was good at imitating the style that was in at the time , in '96 when all that maffioso rap was in he came through with that stuff, acting all Scarface hustler and all that....
When the Bad Boy hype really broke through he made an album that just sounded like it , with some catchy rnb hooks and all that....

The Blueprint could be aight (mainly because of Slim Shady's appearance, the only really good thing about the album in my opinion) , but I didn't dig it cuz it's too soft in my opinion....

The Black album was wack because he worked together with a faggotass band like Linkin Park.... If you choose to walk the rock path, at least choose a fucking Metal band or something like that , not some soft rock band....

Most people think his flow is awesome , but I don't have a fucking clue wtf they're talking about.... His voice and delivery are irritating and his flow is mediocre....

And since the threadstarter asked my favourite rappers I'll name a few :

DMX
Slim Shady
Brotha Lynch Hung
Billy Danze
Kool G Rap
RA The Rugged Man
Sticky Fingaz
Big Pun
Biggie
Freddie Foxxx

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Originally Posted by ikke

I'm a jay fan I guess but this was his peak:

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Are you shitting me? Jay probably has 50 more verses that shit on that; a few off the top of the head: can't knock the hustle, d'evils, dead presidents II, never change, song cry, renegade (don't be fooled cause em outshined him), heart of the city, 99 problems, moment of clarity, PSA, pray, success, ignorant shit...... the list goes on.

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Originally Posted by wuswordz95

preach it brother!

jay z

No clouds in my stones
Let it rain, I hydroplane into fame (Eh, eh, eh)
Coming down with the Dow Jones
When the clouds come we gone
We roc-a-fella (Eh, eh, eh)
We fly higher than weather in G5's or better
You know me, in anticipation for precipitation
Stacks chips for the rainy day (Eh, eh, eh)


wack z gets a c.
thus, warcloud is better.

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Yeah, compare Jay's opening to a pop track against one of Warcloud's best verses, that's a fair match up. Now compare Jay-Z's track record to Warcloud's.