Can Somebody Provide Proof of Aliens on Earth?

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Originally Posted by WUnded Fox

now that you have proof, what are you going to do?

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that first one is a fake

i know. i think both of them are. i chose them on purpose to prove a point.

I just think it's funny that every UFO looks the same. Same flying suacer with a ring of lights around it.

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Originally Posted by WUnded Fox

i posted fake videos because it doesn't matter.

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smh.

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instead of asking for proof i think you should be asking for aliens to come visit you.

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Okay: Dear Aliens, please visit me. I wanna chill and listen to Canibus.

On some real shit though, that NASA video is definitely the most legitimate thing I've seen in this area; I'm gonna have to research it more though before I come to a firm conclusion about it. At the risk of sounding like a bitch, I'm tryna be more accepting of other ideas and see if I can figure out if there's insight to be gained from it - that's the reason for my original question.

Somebody mentioned crop circles earlier.. Those shits are definitely manmade.

i think crop circles are definitely not man made. if it is man made it is some super secret technology that is doing it.

I think crop circles are man made. I think they possibly emanate from the collective consciousness of man as messages, signs, maybe even just art (although art is never just art).

HETEPU

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Originally Posted by WUnded Fox

i know. i think both of them are. i chose them on purpose to prove a point.

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yo that google vid u posted in another thread was sick, the one about magic mushrooms, i
didnt watch it all yet but its insane

check this out, this is some mindboggling shit, it coudl be a fke but shit sstill dope http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7020431476181#

^^^That vid reminded me of this pic...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/46_mike...Ringobject.gif

Not sure what this is about...

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Originally Posted by Threyev

I don't think this needs explanation. I would like aliens to exist, just because I think it's an interesting idea, but in my search for proof I've only come across grainy photographs and videos, and ancient architecture (Nazca lines, etc). So, does anyone have proof, or even some hard facts that have led you to come to the conclusion that aliens are in fact real, and have/had a presence on our planet?

(And if you're gonna tell me you saw them yourself or something - don't.)

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Here you go.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage118311/pg1

wow!

that picture album vid was amazing.
can't tell if its real but damn.

bout to look that up and see the story behind it.


@theyev
look up "secret space" its a series of vids
it has plenty of nasa vids that show objects. they even have the astronaut audio on the vids.

See the funny thing about aliens is that its actually harder to deny they exist then to suggest they exist. Its impossible to prove they don't, and its very possible to prove they do. The raw math says pretty obviously that there is life out there and lots of it. I do think however that the number of advanced civilizations is much smaller then the number of non advanced civilizations. I think that most species don't make it past the Nuclear Age through either intelligent extinction or a technological setback to the stone age. In order to become that intelligent they need to be a dominant species, presumably predators which means they're naturally violent and ego driven (like mankind) the fact we survived the cold war is a miracle. I'd bet that its probably a 1/100 or more shot of lasting 50 years after nukes without having a nuclear war that severely damages society.

Those societies that survive of course will have all manner of other problems besetting them. I think its reasonable to assume that the longer a society exists the higher the chance of their self destruction until they figure it all out.

Any society we eventually encounter (as in find us) are either going to be the most hard line fanatics driven by blood lust and dreams of conquest (and there's no way we could beat them) or the most loving caring teddy bears of a species who are on a star trek bender who simply want to share the love and experience the beauty of other cultures.

Thus I think we need to welcome any aliens with open arms, because either they're already going to exploit us (or kill us) and we'll be helpless to stop them, or they're the xenos equivalent of Santa Claus and they just want to bounce us on their knee and give us presents while they help us grow up. We don't want to offend the nice ones and make them think we're bad. They'll either try to pacify us or more likely leave and quarantine us, and then we've effectively fucked up.

Realistically those are the only two reasons to travel through space. Exploitation or Friendship. The real question is for which reason are we going into the Cosmos? Greed or Prosperity for all?

@ boarz violence isn't the only way to be dominant.

violence actually retards advancement.
i know i know, war machines= tech.
no.
war machines are a byproduct of advancement not the prime motivator.
a discovery/invention comes 1st THEN the military picks it up.
its rare to find people who are out to make killing machines.


advanced tech requires a nonviolent(peaceful mind)...
the new shit coming down the pipe is symbiotic vehicles, meaning the pilot is linked with the machine and/or AI.
in order to operate the machine efficiently, the pilot must be in a zen-like state.
in order to reach zen, they are being trained in yoga, meditation, etc etc.
the problem they are encountering is that once a pilot does these things, his will to destroy is greatly diminished. so they are looking to find artificial means of achieving zen (drugs, virtual reality, and intense programming) so that they have a good killing machine.


it is said that we are already quarantined and the moon is the observatory.
but you're right tho, if aliens wanted to kill us, we'd be dead already... unless we are being protected.

Weapons aren't the only source for tech, thats why i left a peaceful great intelligence as an option. We happen to be very aggressive. Other aliens may not. They may have found other ways to advance. But we dominate things. We're the only example I have of sentient life so thats my mindset. Other animals like whales and dolphins aren't that different mentally, but environmentally have no tech. Dolphins seem to be more altruistic, but we don't really understand them because we can't speak with them. Regular chimps are just as bad as we are, but bonobos are more peaceful and just as smart. Thats my duality. Chimps and Bonobos. Violence and nonviolence.

We need to look at Bonobos as a way forward for man.

I was thinking, would an extra-terrestrial race necessarily be a race of free-will beings? It would be interesting to see a race of beings who's natural evolutionary path was to develop the technology to visit other planets, systems etc.

HETEPU

^ thats an ill thought