i can understand why you see it this way - and there are others who view it this way and have influenced others to view it this way -
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it's all about who is doing the work / the reforming / the gathering
you may not like the definitions we give, but the outcome cannot be denied by the wide and awake man
It's not so much the definitions, but using somebody elses format and attaching foreign definitions to it. Disagreements follow.
somebody elses format ?
whose format is Islam ?
and again
how was Islam practiced and recognized before Muhammad and the Quaran ?
and didn't the religion of Islam do the same thing you are saying we are doing ?
is not the Quaran a confirmation of the book before it ?
stories of jesus mary and moses in the quaran, must of stirred up the people who were into the bible heavy back then
its like ' "they're taking our religion and perverting it"
the Black man was the 1st person to walk the Earth and if all other human life stems from him, can the Black man be considered the God of Humanity?
The entire thing is crap. The first humans were dark skinned. That's about where the facts end and the CULT begins.
The Nation of Islam is a counter Hate Group. They aren't against hatred, they seek to counter act White prejudice with black prejudice. This achieves nothing. It's also a cult dedicated to a White Man who they claim to be the incarnation of Allah even though they preach that White People are devils...
The Nation of Gods and Earths is a side movement along the same course. It's slightly less ridiculous, but still has a lot of strange ideology that belongs in the same category as Scientology.
The Nation of Islam is a scam the same way Scientology is a scam. Even Malcolm X who I would argue is one of the smartest idiots in history left for actual Islam.
Look I'm not in love with the whole Arabic Traditions and Muslim practices that make up the society of the middle east, but I can at least accept that Mohammad was an important historical figure even if I don't really think he spoke to the Angel Gabriel. At least Islam is as legitimate as Christianity and Buddhism and such. The NOI and NGE are not on that same imagined footing. They're just ideologies of the ignorant.
how does that make you feel ?
there is NOTHING to PRE judge - judgment is passed cause the actions make a monstrous sound
it's funny that you see us this way - if you knew the truth of the matter, you'd shit your pants
it's funny that you see us this way - if you knew the truth of the matter, you'd shit your pants
is this coming from a young white male who has done his homework on the subject ?
the beliefs of the traditional religions you just named have some very strange unbelievable beliefs - way stranger than anything that NOI/NGE is spittin - but to you, these are legit - hey - you stated your Opinion on 2 groups who have targeted white supremacy - i can see where you'd have a problem with us
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A lil upset I'll be honest.
this clouds your judgment
it's not the same because white america made sure to not make it equal - we explain why we say what we sayand we have very good reason for saying what we say -Quote:
Ok, then I'll say that they judge all whites by the same ignorant standards as a few idiots in the white community (or a lot of idiots in the white community to be fair) judge african americans.
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If I knew the truth. I know that the Nation thinks a white man or a black man with white skin or what have you was the physical incarnation of the almighty entity that is Allah. They don't say that every man is a physical incarnation of Allah, that would be too gnostic and real. They say that one arab and thus white, man was God.
Who is the Original Man ?
it might make more sense, but at the root, it is fictional -Quote:
if I ever post a fictional religion I invent I'm sure it would make more sense...
what we have, DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, to the average drone, but it is very real
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I just did a decent essay and project on Malcolm X. I think He was a very smart idiot. I've already said that.
this is another way for saying that he was smart for a nigger
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They are strange. Just as strange, but they're ancient and large groups follow them. This is how one rates the legitimacy of a religion, not by any personal opinions. You use their beliefs to determine veracity, not legitimacy.
whatever - you obviously have a problem with black people lol - you trying to describe a group of people who are dedicated to uplifting their own then the world is comical - you DO NOT have enough of an understanding to be considered as the one to go to for NOI knowledge and history
Has the NOI proved effective in attaining it's goals?
This question is irrelevant to what the thread is about.
Why do you ask this?
No. Islam did not take words, twist their meanings, and attribute the names of the supreme being to man.
What are you getting at?
No. Those stories are universal. They main point of the story got around to many peoples and it's overal message was not perverted.
Why do we have to be uplifting our own? Why can't we all uplift each other? I don't have a problem with black people, I have a problem with the system you support. It's like how the News keeps saying how the Tea Party Movement are all racists. That's not true. There are a lot of racists in the Tea Party Movement sure. Of course there would be. There are always racists in everything. (On whatever it's name is, the Nazi forum something Storm Front or other they were discussing how they could hijack the movement...) But when you have a middle upper class white movement in this country it's suddenly shocking because that's the "majority" being incomplacent. It's amazing that a segment of blacks are so damaged that they see any disagreement as a sign of racist intent.
If I call you an Idiot it's not because you're black it's because you're not being reasonable. The racism is coming because we've got a culture perpetuating negative stereotypes and a false notion we're separate species or something. It's totally insane and it bugs me that I look at black people as black people instead of people like I do when I see white people. I am subconsciously classifying them as something different because our culture told me to. But that doesn't mean I think of them as lesser. Just that I see them as different. But because we see a difference it's not so hard to think that.