at the end of it all, no matter what religious belief you claim, it's all about the results you get in life and how you have contributed to others lives.
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at the end of it all, no matter what religious belief you claim, it's all about the results you get in life and how you have contributed to others lives.
Sorry I thought u took every word of the bible as literal.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE W
discounting all the events of the bible because of some fudged numbers? i dont think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang
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Originally Posted by THE W
who does the punishing though ?
God does..Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
a persons guilt is on top of his head like a heap of hot coals
he looks for punishment and draws it to himself
the sins of the flesh causes the crown to drive the vehicle into self destruction
that crown is a mans god
not an external god, but his higher self
guilt and shame of letting the serpent/lower mind feed and fuel mans inner fire/desire
the serpent gains control over the vehicle
the inner wars/imbalance of a man is what causes his hell fire -
his higher conscious begins to destroy the body and calls others from outside to be abusive to him because of his shame.
there are no places to go when a man ceases to exist - we experience death while we are breathing on this planet
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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
JEWEL of the day.
Take heed.
adam neither cause or ordered for the land to be cursed, his own immortality to be taken away, and for women to have painful childbirths. God did that.
genesis 3:14-19(NIV)
So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you. ”
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
when i say punishment im not talking about feelings of guilt, im talking about consequences and repercussions.
the act brought this to reality for them and caused them to sufferQuote:
Originally Posted by THE W
it altered their state causing them to experience these hardships
adams god did cause these things to happen
the act, activated the serpent in them both and clouded the vision of their god - they could no longer see the paradise they were in - and experienced life in a very different way than before
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Originally Posted by THE W
do serpents eat dust ?
before the serpent was ordered to crawl on it's belly, it was in the upright position and in submission to god
this caused the intestines to curl up in the belly of man - where as before that, it was in an upright position - this is the detachment from the tree of life -
moses once reconnected the serpent with his god by causing the serpent to stand upright in the desert - in the desert, he "denied the flesh" and discovered this -
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Originally Posted by THE W
the guilt is a part of the punishment - it brings destruction on the self,body and mind -
many wait for an all powerful being to bring to them answers and a heavenly existence - we as individuals create for ourselves a heavenly existence by taming the flesh/desires/hunger of the lower selves within -
i personally do not believe in a scary place filled with fire that we go to when we die - we create for ourselves a hell while we are here - blaming the devil or blaming god or anything outside of ourselves for our condition is the expression of our lower selves - they are activated and given a voice due to our disobedience and undisciplined ways - we were instructed on what to do to achieve a heavenly existence in this life -
i have no idea where you're going with this man....:?
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Originally Posted by THE W
Peace
i know you heard the saying "God is within You"
or "Jesus is in your heart"
the ancients recorded what they recorded for us to have an idea on how to achieve a heavenly existence - they gave us examples of great ones who got to the heights - they even gave us examples of great ones who rose to great heights and fell - these are examples for us - they recorded what they recorded and those of us who wished to understand, tried to understand, but could only understand it in our way, from our perspective -
and our perspective is a distorted view of the true way because we are not seeing it from a heavenly state and through our own gods eyes. but it's written that "The Way" will be cleared and these things will be explained to you in the end times - they call it arcane knowledge - as the light increases, we will be able to see more clearer what state we are truly in -
and we will no longer deal with belief,hope, and there will be no need to have faith - and this eye opening event will lead us or force us to make decisions - it will give us a choice between choosing heaven or hell -
heaven and hell are not punishments and rewards given to us by and extreme good or bad entity from space when we die - heaven and hell are our choices once knowledge of self is revealed --
ever wonder why children can laugh and play in war zones ?
children dont know what war is yet.
it still dont see where you're going with this. are you saying you reject what the bible has to say?
there is a One/Sun and guide who gave us instructions on how to reconnect with our god in these times - great ones, prophets, leaders, and generals never stopped rising to the top of the waters/people
they always come - and they always tell us what we need to know in order to straighten up - some of us use these instructions to increase our light while most remain in darkness -
the scriptures talk about a sowing and reaping period - a great harvest - where the best of us will be extracted from among the weeds/wicked
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Originally Posted by THE W
no i don't reject what the bible has to say - the words of the bible has increased my understanding of myself -
the popular view that is expressed concerning the bible is what i reject -
what popular view?
the standard cliches used
the general way people see god, satan and their relationship to both -
the bible is composed of ancient writings that were translated by people who had a limited understanding of the writings on the wall - so what we were given is a glimpse of what the ancients were trying to show us - there are missing pieces - and the bible is a piece of the puzzle that most see as the big picture
what cliches?
"jesus is inside you"
humility is the way
arrogance blocks our way to understanding
and i find that most of the people i talk to who hold dear to them the popular view/ the general surface way of seeing scripture, are blinded by arrogance and self righteousness and refuse to even consider anything that is different from the wide road expression -
so i have learned to see myself as self righteous and arrogant, and unyielding to anyone elses view.
from what i gathered from the videos Jesus was many different things to different people.
when you read a normal book the characters names are consistent. the inconsistencies in the bible could be down to the fact that it has many authors. he may have been son of god to one but son of the gods to another and sun of gods to another and so on. it makes sense, since you can't mean the same thing to everyone in life. think of all the names a person aquires in one life, when people go by nicknames and stuff. and the bible was written after jesus' death so what he was called was determined by what jesus meant to that individual. it's possible that jesus could have been compared to the devil at some point in his life by certain individuals but never by others.
by those who hate rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
just saying you have to understand the characters of each author and the relationship each author had with jesus before trying to understand what jesus meant to that author.
real talkQuote:
Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
n i believe i do
THE CRESCENT VENUS: http://www.goines.net/Writing/venus.html
Phases of Venus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases_of_Venus
I really was and yo it attacks all the time. Stay sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by V4D3R
Jesus = Love
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"Lucifer" is a positive title of God's demigod & "Satan" is the negative title.
They apply to Jesus, the Jewish messiah & the angel that God sent out of Heaven determined by which religion you're going by.
Jews don't see the fallen angel as God's enemy because there can be no equal or threat to God. They believe you can make deals with Satan without going to Hell because Jews don't believe in an afterlife. Christians see the Jewish messiah as Jesus and any future King of Jews as a false prophet sent by Satan, which is what Talmudic Jews claim Christ was. Christians believe Christ is "Lucifer", but not the same angel that became Satan.
The Illuminati follow Luciferian Satanism in private. They worshiped Satan before all JudeoChristian faiths and work to give this world to Satan, sending all souls in Hell back to Heaven. This is the original goal of the New Age movement started by Madame Blavatsky & freemason Manly P Hall. When Lucifer/Satan arrives he will have the divine judgment to lower the population and bring peace.
I think God having messengers on Earth isn't crazy but basing religions on any dead crazy person who claimed to be God's son is fucking psychotic. Any of them. From King Solomon to Jesus to Mohammad.
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