Originally Posted by Eric Unseen
First, I don't watch a lot of movies. That is an assumption that you are making about me, I will not do the same to you as I do not know you outside of this forum. I played outside most the time as a kid and I have never been to a day of actual church service in my life. The God that I believe and know and my ideas about this God come from personal experience and reading the Bible and the Quran. Spook isn't my word hence the quotations when I used it. I view God in higher reference than that to describer Her as a spook. I believe in the Grand Creator and that all life in this universe has a single source.
I disagree with you here. It seems that you think that there isn't a Grand Creator, and that this view of Him would be the seen as one of a spook. In the very introduction to the Quran it states "Glory to Allah Most High, full of Grace and Mercy; He created All, including Man.....
I"m not meaning to be condescending when I ask this, but have you really actually read the Quran. I know you stated that it doesn't say such and such in the Bible or Quran but they both actually credit God with being the creator of everything on numerous occassions, which leads me to wonder if you have ever picked them up. I don't know for sure so I'm asking.
this again is an assumption, ....I'll move on
Its a shame that there are fanatics out there who will teach their children a perversion of the true nature of God. Dumbasses have tried to use the Bible as justification for hate crimes in this country (KKK) which is really ironic considering no one in the Bible was actually white. The problem here is not with God but with man. Not everyone who believes is fanatical in their approach. I may be relentless but I'm no fanatic. I do believe in passing on my knowledge and beliefs to my children and the world will definetly be slightly better place and possibly a lot better place for it. I will not raise a kid that only believes in God on Sunday.
you are right in the since that people dye over their misunderstandings , other times religion is the scapegoat (Bush vs Islam) when it reality, Bush isn't religous at all,at least not in the christian since of the term, and really just wants his hands on where Islamic people happen to be (oil, oil and opium). Religon is used to control the masses, I do not deny it but again this is not God's will, this is man acting out against God's will. Islam is perfect in a world where people understand exactly what that means but this world misunderstands and people continue to die.
my brother I will never judge you. I trust that ultimately what you seek is the truth. I think your reason for doubts is because you look out at the world and all you see is lies, you see catholic priest raping school boys, you see bush trying to bomb and control every bearded-face man he can, you see columbus bringing his cross and his curse and to you it's all bullshit and lies, and you would be correct. In a world so corrupt I think it's pretty easy to become confused between man's actions and God's intentions and to take them for one and the same. Though this is not the case, I do not fault you for making that assumption.
that's the absolute truth
Can fiction be truthful? There are absolute truths stated within the Quran. Even if you don't believe in its author there are still facts and knowledge within them, so they can't be all fiction. I'll also say that for all the things that science can prove as fact there are still functions within ourselves that we still do not understand and can not completely explain. It is what can't be proven or explained that proves God exist, not in what can be proven.
I don't accept your beliefs as fact, nor do I require that you do mine but should respect that I believe whole-heartedly. There are people through history you I'm sure you have a lot of respect who believed in the same God that I do. People in general should be very hesitant to judge others. It will keep you from turning would-be friends into should-be enemies.
If you don't put faith in anything else, at least put faith in yourself homie, a rock thrown into water makes ripples. You are the sole controller of your own destiny and are capable of acheiving whatever it is that you wanna do. If you believe in nothing else then believe in that. And if you ever doubt it, just put your hand on your chest and feel that motherfuckin heart beat. It don't get no realer than that. peace
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