i went ahead and gave it classic, dont normally do that but the album has unlimited replay value. great lyrics, great guests, 95% of the production was fantastic. best album of 06
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i went ahead and gave it classic, dont normally do that but the album has unlimited replay value. great lyrics, great guests, 95% of the production was fantastic. best album of 06
this is a spectacular album but being that most people dont know who this guy is and that this album wont have any impact it cannot be considered classic. personal classic maybe, but hiphop classic?...no sir.
Right, not a hip hop classic.
Phenomenal album though. Tons of replay value. I STILL listen to this quite often. What was easily most surprising was that Bronze is actually very, very polished as an MC. Classic production at times with Van Gogh, Good Morning, Poem Burial Ground, Bronzeman. Very underrated.
i've been listenin to this constantly the last few days after readin the Lyrics thread....for those that haven't seen it, the man Bronze himself was givin the breakdown on some of the lyrics from this:
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34885
^^as you can see on there, some of the lyrics are simply genius..just incredibly well-crafted artistic shit...
anyway, as evidenced by all the posts i've previously made in this thread i think this shit is a classic....maybe not a classic in the sense that 36 Chambers and Illmatic are classics but really i think that is more attributable to the retardedness and terrible musical taste of the public lately than it is of the actual quality of the album....i think this is what would be called a "cult classic"
heres an audio interview wit Bronze from around the time TGM came out..bout 50 mins long, its good stuff..
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...0AE49370665268
Definitely like it better that "I". Still play it to this day.
This shit has been bangin' in my ride last 2 weeks. Fucken ill!
Veeery good album. Peace.
That album is fucking crazy, classic no doubt.
Im still bangin this album!!!!!!!!!!! like months an im still not sick of it, CLASSIC!!!!!!
classic, way better than I, Bronze has become a monster on the mic
this is a pure sick album definitely a 9/10
9.5/10
bronze is great.
killa sin kills his shit on 'bronzeman'.
its more than a banger, but not quite classic...
its one of the best albums in a long ass time.
with the overall extremely positive review of this album on this forum (32% say its a classic) plus the reviews i've seen on other sites, ESPECIALLY amazon.com(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...459432-2550238) for example:
5 stars
This cd, singlehandedly transformed my entire outlook on the hiphop genre. It breaks my heart that this dude isn't the most talked about artist out there. It's simply the best hiphop cd I have heard in years. No throwaway tracks on here. Period. It flows and and it sounds like a complete album start to finish.
Just another amazing sleeper cd that some of us are so fortunate to be aware of. Its too bad these dudes aren't the multiplatinum sellers instead of what we have right now. Then again, it's cool to be on the inside loop, I have to admit.
5 stars
Numerous times in the past 5 years I've felt like I have to choose between good lyrics, a smooth flow, or great beats.
Most of the self-proclaimed underground rappers have good lyrics followed by a forced flow and bad beats. You might get a couple good songs from an album, but not much more.
On the other side of the spectrum you've got commercial rap, alive with energetic 'jump up' beats that keep your head poppin' and lyrics so stupid your embarassed to repeat 'em.
Then you've got Think Differently putting out a record packed with spectacular flows on top of phat beats interlaced with horns, strings, and piano chords.
I love it. Thanks for letting me have my cake and eat it too. This is the best hip-hop album I've heard in years.
5 stars
I thoroughly enjoy listening to this CD. Bronze is a renaissance hip hop head, producing and MC'ing. With so much garbage out there, I really appreciate his lyrics and creativity. He brings consciousness and street life together well. Bronze uses lots of old soul music samples which also set this CD apart from most other artists. I would describe the sound of this CD as Wu-Tang throwback, reminissant of Liquid Swords or Wu Tang Forever and all from a Detroit cat. It has that gritty head banging effect. My favorite song on the CD is 'Hear What I Say'. In it Bronze describes his journey thru the corporate hip hop world and what he did to land his record deal. Also he touches on the type of garbage music that he was bypassed for.
If you like real hip hop (not the grown man finger snapping variety), then cop this joint. It is a CLASSIC! Peace
with all of that said, it's a fuckin crime if what i see over at wikipedia is true:
i admittedly don't really know shit about the music industry or independent album sales or anything...Quote:
The Great Migration is the debut album from Wu-Tang affiliate producer and rapper Bronze Nazareth, released through Dreddy Kruger's Think Differently imprint on Babygrande Records. The album features appearances from Wu-Tang affiliates Timbo King, Killa Sin, Prodigal Sunn, 12 O'Clock and Boot Camp Clik member Sean Price. The Album has moved 7,680 Ccopies.
but if those numbers are true it is truly sad that an album of this quality has sold so little. I'm sure the blame rests as much with the distributors as with the fans (i remember not seeing this in stores--any stores--for months after it dropped)..
on the other hand, it feels pretty special to be a part of that relatively small group of ppl that have the privilege to own this shit..i may have to go buy another copy soon, the one i have right now is all beat up..
I thought I'd check this thread again and give it a bump, anyone that doesn't own this cd should, and there is no way that people jumped off this cd after 2 months.
I still rate The Great Migration as one of the truly great albums. Definitely amongst my top 10 Wu albums.
Everyone needs to get out and support the real artists out there. Bronze Nazareth and Killah Priest are due to drop an album this year and going on their current form it should be completely pure.
So people get out there and support Think Differently, The Great Migration, The Offering and the albums that don't get the exposure that the more mainstream albums do.
co-sign all of it man..Quote:
Originally Posted by Trismegistos
i'm starting to accept the fact that it's one of my favorite albums of all time...i've just listened to it way too much since it came out (way back in May of '06) for it not to be..
there is nothing i'd like more right now than a new Bronze album....
but for now i'll continue bumpin TGM
Yeah definitely a classic.
All Aussie Hip Hop purists should buy The Great Migration.
I liked this album alot when i first bought it but now i rarely pplay it.I like the wiseman album better.
Bronze could have done better! I rate this album better than Birth of A Prince, and that is because RZA knew better than that, so I will give Bronze the benefit. The best song on this one was Stolen Van Gogh, and it didn't even last long. Question, why do the best beats RZA put out is always 30 seconds? Is he really teasing or what? I hope Bronze's beatmaking skills with see light before I cop the next one.
Ok. Trash that review above you, I was hatin a little bit I won't lie, but I was like 16 lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
1.Intro
2.The Pain
I'm still not feeling this track 2 years later, the beat is annoying to me. The lyrics on here are aight, you can tell he has potential in him though. I'm still not feeling this track at all though. 2.5/5
3.More Than Gold
Beat is hot, Bronze starts it off nice I won't lie, he spits some ill dartz and goes in hard not his best but he shows he has skills on the mic, Timbo King is playing around on the mic, that's something I don't like at all, Bronze comes back in and saves the track. Overall this is pretty solid. 4/5
4.Killa Beez Attack (Skit)
5.The Bronzeman
I heard it had a skit in the opening that's why it takes them so long to start spitting, but they still could've chopped it down, anyways Bronze comes in hard on here beat wise and lyrically, but when Killa Sin comes in you can just forget it, he kills this shit , his flow on here is crazy and he just kills it, this guy really needs a solo album, he proves he never fell off. 4/5
6.One Plan
Ok, we have a female track on the album. Beat is actually cool, I'm not feeling Byata on here, it takes away from Bronze verse, he goes in and she comes in and kills the vibe,she sounds like a dyke on the mic, NOT GOOD.This doesn't even flow well it sounds like 2 men spitting back to each other. This would've been better as a solo track.
3.5/5
7.Instrumental
8.Stolen Van Gogh
The beat on here is mad ill, I fucks with this one alot and Bronze just takes off with the beat, the only problem with this is that it short, I think he definitely could've did more damage with a few more dartz added. 4/5
9.5th Chamber
I heard about the guest spots on this track and I was expecting a classic, I was wrong, I expected better for some reason, I think everybody on here didn't come as hard as I thought they could and the beat is aight. This was a letdown for me. 3.5/5
10.Stupid Fucking Whiteman Skit
11.Good Morning
I like the visual he gives you on here, and the beat is perfect on here. A 32 bar song with no hook would've been nice, I don't like the hook part on this song, he still goes in strong the second verse with a better flow too. A pretty solid track though. 4/5
12.Rare Breed
This is ok, we have a guest appearance by Phillie, he comes correct on the mic, Bronze does his job on the mic, beat is cool, nothing really too special about this track. 3.5/5
13.Hear What I Say
This beat is more annoying then Pain, I usually skip this as soon it comes on, but I sat through it for the review and my views haven't changed, nothing much to say about this one. Besides I think it's still mediocre. 3/5
14.Black Royalty
This beat is flames, I love it and bronze just goes in finally, if you had any doubts of him being good on the mic just read along
Royal golden, watch my inner soul flowing
Like leaves in a galilee, current towards the ocean
Grab it and smoke one, but don't overdose lungs
I'll trade you these scriptures, if you hand me your guns
Made it for students in the school of life
I could write a sunray, author of full moon's light
My words are suiters to a broken future
That stitch skies together, lift you to God, when we lose ya
I speak planets, think marbles, deep Pharaohs
Bleed messages, tell the welfare kids
Play Saturn's rings around a splattered kid's wig
Send him to Heaven's gates, to earn his severed wings
I great the fallen angels with a second chance
On the blankets of death, like winter Indian chants
My thoughts float through the city, homeless men heard me
Found more dreams in my rhymes, than that flask of wild turkey
Open and pour it, withdraw it, before we sipped it
Put his bottle in his coat and said "that kid is gifted"
Follow a spiral staircase into my brain wave
Count every step and see exactly where the pain lays
Aline my watch with a biological clock
Drag the moon into a womb, tell your child, you could watch
Then maybe you'll never leave, fatherless child as a seed
Black Royalty, our horns, my word crowned in habitat
On the black top, I spoke to Judas, he regreted that
Metal gat, my habits like fresh fleets of heroin
Look close, and saw the map of Detroit streets, in his arm
The city climbed in that old picture of me in the frame
And asked the man, if you should know, why the fuck I changed
Told him with no expression, words be on the page
Written in goblins, ghosts & the hemoglobin, the slaves
I drew blood in the shape of the Wu symbol
Wrote rhymes with hieroglyphics, left a mystics with temples
Carefully build each bar, like I rather eat in jail
Then smoke from the same plants, black magic used to hail
And blow the residue in the 9/11 wind direction
Stranger than fiction, how those buildings stand as missing
Back in deep thought like a rich man now homeless
Stroke the file like intern's hips and melted moments
This is triumphant warrior over throw
Vivid like my face carved in black foot totem pole
They ask whose the Wu-Tang poet so graphic
They send him towards The Wisemen, and he came The Nazareth4.5/5
15.Detroit
This is another average cut on the album, it consists of 3/4 of the wisemen, the beat is cool, nothing too special about this one either, NOT WACK, but skippable. 3.5/5
16.$ A.K.A. Cash Rules
This is a little better than most of the average joints on here, it's kinda slow, the hook is pretty dope I think that's the best part about the song, Bronze comes through lyrically as he usually does. 3.5/5
17.Poem Burial Ground
Bronze kills this shit, he just goes in on here, no hook or nothing just raw lyrics, beat is nice too, he definitely brings the heat on here, overall a pretty solid track. 4/5
18.The Great Migration
This sounds like he's just throwing dartz together on some U-God shit, beat on here is boring to, I usually skip this one, some good lines here and there, but this is another average cut. 3.5/5
19.Bronze Hall (Outro)
Beats- 3.5/5
Lyrics- 4/5
Overall- 3.5/5
This is the debut album by Bronze Nazereth which is pretty cool, he has some sick lyrics and some nice beats to accomodate them, some tracks seem like they lag to me, there are alot of samples on here, A head banger here and there would've been nice to mix things up, this is a pretty good debut, better than most debut by other Killa Beez. I think his next solo he will definitely have more to offer,as you can tell lyrically he's nice, and his beats can only get better. ****Overall 3.5/5****
peace hollow.
what do u mean "u were hatin" on ur previous review of TGM? u gave it a higher score last time.
???????????
I felt like my last review was rushed...
i actually never wrote a full review of this album and it's one of my all-time favorites now, a little over 2 years after it dropped...
u can expect a huge in-depth review of this very soon....probably a little before the upcoming mixtape drops..
september that is right?Quote:
Originally Posted by the silencer
that's what somebody here said but....no official word on anything..Quote:
Originally Posted by The GFX
dogg, you must be retarded. how is stolen van gogh your fav song on that shit. the whole shit is on point, how can u expect more from a debut album. the whole shit was tight n that shit stayed playing on repeat until i unfortunately played it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Lizard
u cant even compare that album to wack ass birth of a prince. Rza "be ridin fast carsss..." fell off and bronze helped him out with that a day to god joint.
TGM was the tightest shit that came out the Wu/Killabee camp in a while.
smoke a blunt and give it some more listens. damn
peace
Purely my opinion, but this album is the best album by a Wu-Tang member or affiliate, since No Said Date.
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlymelody
its right there with The Offering, i agree
wow @ all the classic ratings, im now in that group. its a pretty timeless album, not every beat is as crazy as The Pain or Bronzeman, but the lyrics tie everything together. its a pretty spectacular album
holy shit
to me its a modern classic among madvillany,supreme clientle etc
damn i've been sleeping on this. i've banged it several times when it came out but it never clicked with me. gave it another chance now, a few years later, and YES Bronze delivers!! i admit he is a great producer, the beats on here are mostly straight fire. he got some real good drums to his shit and he picks ill samples to rhyme over. "The Pain", "Bronzemen", "More Than Gold", "Rare Breed", "Hear What I Say", "Good Morning", etc. not a masterpiece or anything but definitely dope!
wait til the amazingness of the lyrics start seeping in...Quote:
Originally Posted by claaa7
This joint is a decade old today. A real renaissance album for hardcore Wu fans.
Toast to 10 years!
Damn, I was 20 when this dropped. Has to be my favorite album of the last 10 years, a true classic... Like dude earlier said it's on par with Madvillainy and Supreme Clientele for me
A great opening to the career and movement of Bronze
The time when this dropped was also a time when Wu Corp was flourishing, a lot of intelligent and cool posters posting here frequently. Even Bronze himself stopping by for direct interaction with the fans occasionally..
And it was this forum (and IIRC the Chambermusik forum) that introduced me to the work of Bronze originally. Birth of a Prince and certainly Wu Meets Indie Culture were the first time I heard Bronze's work, then it was digging through the older tracks, the snippets, TGM sampler, and that old green website's beats that really drew me in to Bronze's art. Found all that shit thru here.
Made some great friends in diff parts of the globe on the strength of a shared passion for this album.... S/O to Kriszy Substance, Ya Bane, and others
I need to write a full length review of this album, somehow I never have
Body heavy metal, bet I'll only travel on frowning horses
Inhale the forest, fled the house of a thousand corpses
Housing my name in ya mouth will get ya John Booth'd
I let myself outta my jail cuz I'm the TRUTH
Eyes shimmer like rivers in broken bottles of Smirnoff
Successions of sounds splash from windows spillin' off
Still emboss my logo cough death on mogul's calls
Skin clicks like 18 Bronzemen in the halls
I remember my anticipation before this dropped, was so looking forward to hearing an entire album of Bronze beats and thought his lyrics would probably be okay.
I can remember being completely shocked during my first few listens about how far off my expectations were.
Ended up being an album whose lyrics became literature for me to dissect and contemplate for what's now been a decade.
And the beats and whole energy and vibe of this album became the musical guide to my life during that whole period (2006-2008 a time when I graduated college and up and moved out of home in New York to California on a migration).
An instant classic, this shit never gets old for me.
Some tracks, like "$ (Cash Rule)" and "The Great Migration" have gotten better and better over time, the imagery and feeling soaking in more fully.
Remember this video?
"My cadence is caiman fiending to bite before they say Amen"
endless darts on here
Twelve years ago today. Cannot get tired of this album. I blew up my subwoofers with Bronzeman a few weeks ago
One of the BEST
Definitely. Great Migration is Wu Tang's answer to College Dropout.
Fifteen years ago today. Still banging.