Is Immortal Technique a douche?

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

You prove our point, sure Bush couldn't give the hurricane as much attention as he could because his armies at war but how much attention has N.korea given its starving people? None. Infact Parades and public displays have a high mark on the budget then programs tht help people in N.Korea. Bush is atleast making an attempt, it's not enough and there's only so much he can do, but he's trying to help his people, unlike the countries Tech praises. BTW Paris is thousands of years old the buildings are understandably out dated.

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No I don't prove your point. N.Korea is doing what it is within its own confines. Bush on the other hand cut that very budget by 44% and what happens next? The walls give in. But why was the budget cut? Cuz the US is in a oil rich country invading them. So no I don't prove your point. My point is simple - its a bit hypocritical to outline I.M.'s lyrics and say he would be better of else where when just last week disaster struck on the very people that I.M. talks about being deprived and the gov. did shit all.

And your comments about Iran to Kanha's post - Iran doesn't need to give a shit about Swaziland cuz they aren't really going around invading countries claiming that the US is giving them a better life when in fact it is not. The US on the other hand won't step inside Africa cuz oil doesn't exist there.

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

Kahuna, Your not white, If the EVIL AXIS that is the U.S. didn't exist the third reich would have won the second world war and you'd be whipe of the planet. If North Korea didn't exist you'd still be alive, infact odds are if your in a country where your rich enough to have a computer and be on Wucorp North Korea wants you dead, your a part of its enemy, so don't be on a countries side cause the US doesn't "control" it because your examples of "uncontrolled" countries have take records 800x more gruesome in the past 10 years then the US.

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ur a fucking muppet

prescott bush
funded the fucking 3rd right from wall street
and from the city of london
the u.s is the incarnation of evil on earth.
if u cant see it. its coz u r evil also.

u seriously need to look into history b4 u start to speak and spread such lies about the world.


why did the us. drop nukes on japan.. when the war was already over.. ur pres at the time refused the treaty and offer of surrender by the japs and dropped the nukes a week later he accepted the exact fucking same treaty..
why did he do that?
you have to look at the world differantyl..what happened after world war 2?
the fucking cold war.. and what was the fear of the cold war? to the west it was.. russia has nukes and we know what nukes CAN DO,. coz usa used them!!! so that was the fear.. and the dear in russia was.. fuck usa will nuke us.. as they did japan.. both countries population was scared an manipulated by the same forces..

if u refuse to see that.. i seriously suggest joing the u;s
as they are after mind dead clones

and the topic of this thread. shows everyone how stupid u r

maybe he says it because america has got a cheek to call themselves the land of the free i meen they even rigged the fuckin election america is the worlds biggest dictatorship kidding everybody they are a democracy

^^^Very well put. Its a democracy but theres no freedom of speach and the media and politicians control what the public see and read. Hahahaha its very funny how people are so easily led.

if there was no freedom of speech you were already rotting in a prison for writing this stuff about the gov and the US and Immortal Technique was probably shot a few times in the head by FBI agents.
the media can only control those who wants to be controlled. you can always turn off the TV and the radio.

^^Why should people have to turn of the tv? The tv shouldn't be lying in the first place. In the UK people will soon be breaking the law if they speak of what I.M. speaks of and the US is not too far behind on this.

yeah its true, they shouldnt lie anyway but if they do you can still turn it off. you have the freedom to be an ignorant clone but you dont have to.

Once again, in America-- Technique and other people have the right to say "fuck the government" in the countries he praises he doesnt. So stop dissing this as the land of the free.. go to N. Korea and say that their land isnt the land of the free.

what have u got to base, that korea isnt the land of the free? ( not saying it is)
but all u get is the 'agendas' version of what north korea is like..
and u comment on it

korea is as free as it likes to be
after all rumsfield working for ABB sold nuclear technology to them in 99
thats how the u.s know they have nuclear weapons
rofl

u couldnt write this shit in a movie

" u couldnt write this shit in a movie"

what about fahrenheit 911?

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

for the 10th time. I never said he ISNT american or anything. The point is HE contradicts HIMSELF, when he knocks the US government so much, and PRAISES countries in which dont allow freedom of speech. Which he has, BECAUSE HE LIVES IN AMERICA. That is the point, he contradicts himself, either stop praising countries in which don't allow freedom of speech or stop hating America. It actually is nice to hear someone talking about the government, but noone wants to hear a communist.

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mind explaining to me exactly what you THINK a communist actually is?

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

Once again, in America-- Technique and other people have the right to say "fuck the government" in the countries he praises he doesnt. So stop dissing this as the land of the free.. go to N. Korea and say that their land isnt the land of the free.

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And once again - stop telling people where to go and speak.

If you can't accept a view different to your own then fine but stop telling people that they should go to other countries.

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Originally Posted by belfalo

yeah its true, they shouldnt lie anyway but if they do you can still turn it off. you have the freedom to be an ignorant clone but you dont have to.

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People don't have the freedom to be ignorant clones. They are ignorant cuz the truth isn't there. Can you honestly say that all relevant information would be made available to me by gov. agencies if I asked a question? It wouldn't cuz history has shon various gov. cover ups in the devloped democratic world.

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

for the 10th time. I never said he ISNT american or anything. The point is HE contradicts HIMSELF, when he knocks the US government so much, and PRAISES countries in which dont allow freedom of speech. Which he has, BECAUSE HE LIVES IN AMERICA. That is the point, he contradicts himself, either stop praising countries in which don't allow freedom of speech or stop hating America. It actually is nice to hear someone talking about the government, but noone wants to hear a communist.

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if someone wants to be communist let them be communist if you dont like that cat for it w.e ya know not all communists think like josef stalin or Kim jong of fuckin North Korea waht about Karl Marx and Jesus lol Jesus would be an awesome communist

is ThaShaolinAssassin a douche?

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Originally Posted by Ironman Starks

if someone wants to be communist let them be communist if you dont like that cat for it w.e ya know not all communists think like josef stalin or Kim jong of fuckin North Korea waht about Karl Marx and Jesus lol Jesus would be an awesome communist

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werd!

on a side note: in todays societies, and by todays political ideologies - Jesus would have been classed as a Socialist by definition. quite the irony considering that these so-called Christians hold nothing but Conservative views.

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Originally Posted by bushido

is ThaShaolinAssassin a douche?

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yes! and he's most probably just your average little rich bod that's never been poor enough to experience state oppression.

You guys are arguing with an 85, its pointless gawds. Just relax and breath lol.

I doubt he's rich hes probably just middle class somewhere around there, most black people aren't rich, and if they are rich, THEY ARENT "WEALTHY". Wealthy is an important word. Black people could be rich but they will never obtain a place of power in the U.S. where they could manipulate anything other than by getting a large movement of people for their cause, and even than the U.S. is just compromising.

You speak about all these, how this countries like this blablabla... sound like my mom (shes cuban). I agree its terrible what other countries go through. But if you got 6 rotten apples and 1's less rotten does it make it not rotten? Wouldn't you like to eat a good apple ???
Besides half those other countries go through that shit BECAUSE of the U.S. Do you think columbia and south america would have such an extensive cocaine market if it weren't for the U.S. buying off of them. Africa, would warlords be cutting off kids arms and destroying towns and having people operate diamond mines for a penny a day, if America didn't glorify diamonds and, the american people didn't by them so much. Iraq, would Iraq be such a bad place if America didn't supply that area with all the weapons they did in the 80's along with the russians, they gave guns to the Israelites who in turn, used them to opress other middle eastern countries. Why you think these people are pissed at us? You think they just like crashing their planes into us and shit? Decapitate ppl on T.V. for fun..? I could go on forever how america dicked over almost every country on the planet and fucked up something there, but I'ma stop.

Peace 85.

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Originally Posted by soul controller

korea is as free as it likes to be
after all rumsfield working for ABB sold nuclear technology to them in 99
thats how the u.s know they have nuclear weapons
rofl

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PLEASE show me evidence to this claim, read our embargo papers on them at the time and turn off your micheal moore DVD.

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Originally Posted by soul controller

ur a fucking muppet

prescott bush
funded the fucking 3rd right from wall street
and from the city of london
the u.s is the incarnation of evil on earth.
if u cant see it. its coz u r evil also.

u seriously need to look into history b4 u start to speak and spread such lies about the world.


why did the us. drop nukes on japan.. when the war was already over.. ur pres at the time refused the treaty and offer of surrender by the japs and dropped the nukes a week later he accepted the exact fucking same treaty..
why did he do that?
you have to look at the world differantyl..what happened after world war 2?
the fucking cold war.. and what was the fear of the cold war? to the west it was.. russia has nukes and we know what nukes CAN DO,. coz usa used them!!! so that was the fear.. and the dear in russia was.. fuck usa will nuke us.. as they did japan.. both countries population was scared an manipulated by the same forces..

if u refuse to see that.. i seriously suggest joing the u;s
as they are after mind dead clones

and the topic of this thread. shows everyone how stupid u r

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OUCH!

1.America's the Incarnation of Evil on earth-No comment.

2.Prescott Bush, was a business man in a FREE CAPITALIST ECONOMY, his business choices are his and his alone, i don't agree with him, but he's FREE to do as he wishes. It's funny how A SINGLE american on wall street who funded Hitler (in a way that im sure had little to no major impact) makes us the Incarnation of Evil on earth, but Hitler himself isn't? He helped the 3rd reich more then Prescott Bush ya know.

3.Fucking Italy was on hitlers side, but we're eviler (not saying they are) cause prescott bush likes hitler, in a country where he's FREE to do so.

4. The United States dropped Bombs on Japan after the World War, in order to end the Pacific war, a war that, due to Japans nationalistic bushido culture would have the Japanesse refuse to surrender until we literally killed them all. The STRICTLY believe in not being taken prisonner. If we had fought them face to face on the mainland it was predicted to be histories more bloody, devistating set of battles that would end in the total oblideration of the japanesse nation, and up to 1 million americans.

5. Japan's "Rape of Nanking" is reported as one of histories most disgusting war crimes. For those how don't know, Japans soldigers were given orders to rape and pillage anything they seen in china when the imperialistically invaded it because the chinese people were a worthless race on inferior beings in the eyes of Japanesse nationalism. This same ideology stated that all whites were destant to serve the japanesse as slaves, and blacks weren't human. But the U.S is the incarnation of evil on earth because Prescott Bush likes Hitler.

6. I doubt you'll ever get pussy.

7.The Cold war was a conflict in which the thawing of imperialism saw a growing popularity for communism. Russia also had a stake in Germany as well and the the Allies, and it was STALINS nuclear bluff that lead to the arms race. The struggle was a fight of ideologies with the USSR being even more guilty of "evil" deeds to its people and others then the US. It's politics, if Mongolia was in the same position it would do the same thing, if Rwanda, Sweden, Iraq, Jordan, Colombia, Bolivia ect. the same thing, so the US or USSR isn't evil for competing with each other.


-If your gonna speak please use logic, im not very tolerant of half thought out comments and please believe me i know what im talking about in this topic.

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Originally Posted by connor

maybe he says it because america has got a cheek to call themselves the land of the free i meen they even rigged the fuckin election america is the worlds biggest dictatorship kidding everybody they are a democracy

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Bigger then N.Korea?

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

PLEASE show me evidence to this claim, read our embargo papers on them at the time and turn off your micheal moore DVD.

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Micheal Moore's a douche.

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Originally Posted by TeknicelStylez

You guys are arguing with an 85, its pointless gawds. Just relax and breath lol.

I doubt he's rich hes probably just middle class somewhere around there, most black people aren't rich, and if they are rich, THEY ARENT "WEALTHY". Wealthy is an important word. Black people could be rich but they will never obtain a place of power in the U.S. where they could manipulate anything other than by getting a large movement of people for their cause, and even than the U.S. is just compromising.

You speak about all these, how this countries like this blablabla... sound like my mom (shes cuban). I agree its terrible what other countries go through. But if you got 6 rotten apples and 1's less rotten does it make it not rotten? Wouldn't you like to eat a good apple ???
Besides half those other countries go through that shit BECAUSE of the U.S. Do you think columbia and south america would have such an extensive cocaine market if it weren't for the U.S. buying off of them. Africa, would warlords be cutting off kids arms and destroying towns and having people operate diamond mines for a penny a day, if America didn't glorify diamonds and, the american people didn't by them so much. Iraq, would Iraq be such a bad place if America didn't supply that area with all the weapons they did in the 80's along with the russians, they gave guns to the Israelites who in turn, used them to opress other middle eastern countries. Why you think these people are pissed at us? You think they just like crashing their planes into us and shit? Decapitate ppl on T.V. for fun..? I could go on forever how america dicked over almost every country on the planet and fucked up something there, but I'ma stop.

Peace 85.

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-Actually Nigerians are among the wealthiest minorities in the country, and are ranked the most educated(they're black)
-why yes, yes i am middle class
-Your not 5% kid, just a fan.
- Its not the U.S's fault we like diamonds. In Senegal that's the leading export, if we didn't buy them they would collapse and starve to death. Literally every country buys diamonds, every single one, but were the evil ones?
-Wal Mart doesn't chop kids arms off, and that's how you proved my point
-If it weren't for Cocain we wouldn't have ODB
- If israel oppressed every country in the middle east(a bit far fetched) Israel is
evil, The murderer is the criminal not the man that owns the gun store.
-Iraq would be just as bad because Saddam was one of those guys the US didn't "Control" according to Tech, and he did what he did on his own. Once again my point it he did was he did and we didn't do what he did, but Tech is on his side.
- I kinda wanna dick over your lips.

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Originally Posted by ShaolinDarts

^^^Very well put. Its a democracy but theres no freedom of speach and the media and politicians control what the public see and read. Hahahaha its very funny how people are so easily led.

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So tell me when YOUr "freedom of speach" has been blocked by the gov.

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Originally Posted by akira kurosawa

mind explaining to me exactly what you THINK a communist actually is?

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Communism is a system of governmental rule thought up by Karl Marx to spread his view of class struggle. This system leads to the gov. being overthrown by the prolitatiate(sp?) (working class, those being oppresses). when this is done a system is set up were the people on the bottom make it equal for everyone so long as there's no more captalism and things are distributed by need, and not by want. Basically everyone in the same class and the communist party controls this. and thats its flaw the communist party later became the exact thing the working class fought to overthrow, a concentration of power at the top that manipulates everything below. Since humans are humans and the communist party isn't made of perfect beings, they systematically begun to ignore peoples needs and it all became a messy power struggle. In this system it was also hard to produce enough goods for the people due to a complete abandonment of logical economy. That's communism.

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Originally Posted by Ironman Starks

if someone wants to be communist let them be communist if you dont like that cat for it w.e ya know not all communists think like josef stalin or Kim jong of fuckin North Korea waht about Karl Marx and Jesus lol Jesus would be an awesome communist

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He CAN be a communist and that's my point. He should be greatful, or at least straight about it.

rofl
oh shit

most of the answers u stated are correct on a level.. go deeper,
and connect the dots


oh and btw im married.. and i dont get pussy!
not too mention in an open relationship
so :)


michael moore.. didint even watch all of F11 but i did watch all of his 1st one.. whats michael got to do with this?
but damn u made me wanan asnwer each question
bah fuck u
:(

i aint got time so quicktime mode



1: not just now check the shistory how it was created. and who controls it sure as fuck isnt no 'american's they are all rich aristrocats from eastern europe.. who ownz the federal resere.. far from federal or a reserve.. thats pvt owned european bank money.
how was u created? the symbols that the people who run your country choose to display rub it n ur face. i aint even gone go into it.. reverse symbology its all around u
check ur dolla. do u really want me to go into all the c'i'a funded terrorist attacks america has done on countless COUNTLESS countries from malaysia to nicaragua to afghanistan.. it not to mention israel( i know ur view on that.. lol they the good guys with u? )

2: it wasnt only prescott bush but he was a major player, their where many sides who gave hitler ideas.. have u read his book vak kempf if many serves me right... i wont even go into him as he was just a puppet for the agenda along with chirchill and ur ' i promise u if u elect me.. the the sons of america will not go and fight in a war in europe'
no fucking doubt. he already knew and cold bloodedly lied.. carry on supporting this

3 i dont know why u have put numbers next to each point.. what can i see. ww2 was engineered for the people to want a change which happened.. the change was already envisioned prior to the war, in documents called propaganda in the next war.. (which u can find on any yahoo search) all sides knewinlghy played apart.. for? centralisation of power.. what happeend after the war when the people said,,. something must be done.. they got the u.n rofl and the e.u to stop wars .. im not even gonna tell u the amount of wars in europe since ww2... its all bollox. to manipulate how u think

4 im a take ur qoute
rread the fucking restrictions america put on japan prior to that.. its sick. not to mention qoute a pnac document again found on their OFFICIAL SITE this sept 99... we need another event like pearl harbour for us to launch a war in the middle east'
u couldnt write this shit in a script,.,,again read history u get america's edit read the real.

5.. get off bush and hitler.. porns in the overall game

6: ive answered that elsewhere ... hmm i wonder if anyone can verify that for me on here? lol


7: bigger picture. u dropped the nuke so both sides america and ussr peoples would be scared. and that happened in the process of the illuminati rapeing russia natural reserves and pvtsing

8 im not saying what ur saying is wrong at all.. most is quite correct on A LEVEL


peace to TeknicelStylez

i just read ur post thats quiet correct

if u want proove, i have plenty of SOLID documentaries.. get me on msn
i might even hook u up with a gurlie if u come to england, get that limp dick of urs some action

peace to one and all.

jesus this man dont stop

props for ur commitment

karl marx was also another puppet used for this on going agenda

connect the dots,. the dots are THE FINANCES

thanks. Congradulations of your points all relevent (unlike ShaolinDarts who literally has no friends) but the U.S.'s sins are out weigh by those Tech praises. And if those countries were in US's position of power please imagine the world then. US has(in tie with Ancient China, and Egypt) been histories most externally friendly power and the first nation to fully recognize the rule of law in protecting humans rights and that why im proud to be america, and so is Tech, he just won't realize it cause he's a douche, and that's my point.

lol
whats a douche.. im from england so... help!

when i say americas evil i dont mean hte people of america. not at all.. they can only react to what they are shown/see , its good to be proud of where u r from. u can still critise where u are from, with ouT being less pateriotic.. u have say something is wrong or things wont change...

peace.

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

-Actually Nigerians are among the wealthiest minorities in the country, and are ranked the most educated(they're black)
-why yes, yes i am middle class
-Your not 5% kid, just a fan.
- Its not the U.S's fault we like diamonds. In Senegal that's the leading export, if we didn't buy them they would collapse and starve to death. Literally every country buys diamonds, every single one, but were the evil ones?
-Wal Mart doesn't chop kids arms off, and that's how you proved my point
-If it weren't for Cocain we wouldn't have ODB
- If israel oppressed every country in the middle east(a bit far fetched) Israel is
evil, The murderer is the criminal not the man that owns the gun store.
-Iraq would be just as bad because Saddam was one of those guys the US didn't "Control" according to Tech, and he did what he did on his own. Once again my point it he did was he did and we didn't do what he did, but Tech is on his side.
- I kinda wanna dick over your lips.

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-I was talking about black AMERICANS.
-Thats cool I got no problem with middle class they are in the same boat as us.
-I'm not a 5 percenter your right, but you are an 85.
-Yes because we still do it, just because everyone else does doesn't mean we have to too.
-Wal Mart is rediculous store, that shows how much the U.S. people really consume, completely unnecessary to have that much shit in one store.
-If it weren't for cocaine ODB would still be alive.
-Not ever country but Iraq did, and if they didn't have the guns they wouldn't do it. Thats like someone being like Gimme a gun ima go shoot alot of people, and you go "DUH OK!!" and hand it to em, even gun stores do background checks.
-Quote one line where tech supports saddam
-your mad gay...

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Originally Posted by TeknicelStylez

-I was talking about black AMERICANS.
-Thats cool I got no problem with middle class they are in the same boat as us.
-I'm not a 5 percenter your right, but you are an 85.
-Yes because we still do it, just because everyone else does doesn't mean we have to too.
-Wal Mart is rediculous store, that shows how much the U.S. people really consume, completely unnecessary to have that much shit in one store.
-If it weren't for cocaine ODB would still be alive.
-Not ever country but Iraq did, and if they didn't have the guns they wouldn't do it. Thats like someone being like Gimme a gun ima go shoot alot of people, and you go "DUH OK!!" and hand it to em, even gun stores do background checks.
-Quote one line where tech supports saddam
-your mad gay...

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-notice I said "nigerians IN THE COUNTRY" nigga
-Im also cute
-So, countries that Tech praises do it, so why are we the only 1s that need to stop?
-so basically your saying "Gosh dang it that store has everything I need? It must be evil"
- quote "*slurps* IM DOO DOO BROOOOWN"
-Your saying U.S. is evil for selling Isreal guns, so did Romania, And if Israel wanted a gun it's got the entire world to buy it from, it just choose us, and IT did what it did with the guns not the US, but somehow we're evil?
- He says he supports any country fighting "CIA oppression" Saddam's Iraq was, but its not so much Iraq, he OPENLY supports N.Korea, Iran, ect. just because they're our enemies, and we're not free.
- I'm actually mad niggerish.

lol man the power of American propaganda is more powerful than i thought. Simply put, America exploits. Since the creation of this country, the powers that be have used poor people and immigrants to build this country. For example, the African slaves where used to cultivate cotton and forced upon with hard labor. The immigrant Chinese built the railroads in the turn of the century. You say yes where free, but in reality that word is used so out of context. We maybe have been freed from our shackles but the worst slavery is mental slavery. And when a person speaks upon it, he/ she is considered a threat and a terrorist. Shaolin Assassin you are a very good exmaple of that! You think like 85% of all Americans that you are free and very fortunate to live in this country. That your commander in chief, The President , is looking out for you as an AMerican citizen. In order to be elected president the elective votes must decide. Do you know who are the elective votes??? You remind me of those angry politicions who hear a rap cd and decide its lyrics and content are quote on quote to graphic and violent for people(their children in the suburbs )to hear. In 200 hundred plus years the statistics pretty much remain the same. We are still the higher pervcentile that is incarserated. We are still the minority. We still lag behind economically. We still make up a large of percentage of those living in poverty. We are still being exploited by corporate America. Sure you will ask me , then why dont you move if you dont like this country. My answer to you is that no matter where i go The US has influenced the whole world. Just like what the've done to IraQ. You really have no idea what is truley going on behind closed doors in this country, none what so ever. The statements that you have made are soley based on American media on other countries. THis American media of ours is controlled by coporate juggernaut conglomerates who use propaganda and misguidance to decieve its people. Like the fact that they always paint the President as a loving father and careing leader. Why is it they dont discuss how he and the BIn Laden family have done business for years . And how we have the greatest technology in the world and great intelligence organizations such as the CIA and FBI yet we cant catch a man who is hiding in a mountain?? The answer is he is a CIA operative who is being used by the CIA for their agenda. Man you are truley blind. Its because of people like yourself that we will always have the dumb def and blind. Do you research properly before you start shouting terroist, and long live America land of the free home of the brave, you John Wayne wanne be mothrefucker!!! Peace to All revolutionaries who arent scared to speak your minds like that pussy mental slaved 85'er Shaolin Assassin.

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Let's wrap it up, boys. Enough with your childish bickering.

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Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin

So tell me when YOUr "freedom of speach" has been blocked by the gov.

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If I was to say something like terrorists are justified in what they do (not that I believe that though) then I could in fact be braking a law in the UK. The US is to follow with similar laws.

Freedom of speach means I should be able to discuss. But I can't.

Like I said no use in arguing with 85's

Lets drop the subject boys, ***packs up his stuff and leaves***:W

those are not uk laws
bollox

and why havent the terrorists got rights to fuck with the country of amerikkka?

they have every right.. the mount oof islamic countries amerikkka has shaped.. the govts and the companys can be bought
the people of those islamic countries can not be bought
u reap wjat u soe, as the old proverb goes.

im not condoning it
after all who trained and funded al quada.. dammn straight
CIA then past onto the pakistani secret service
ISI i think they are called..

all parts of the same puzzle

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Originally Posted by soul controller

those are not uk laws
bollox

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Is condoning terrorism not going to be against the law? They can in fact pick up something an individual has said in the past and use it against them. So if two people are discussing terrorism and one is arguing that there is some legitimacy in it then s/he is breaking a law. Its simple as that.

those are not uk laws
bollox

Why don't you try it and find out....

Matter fact all of you people who support this country and everything it does to the fullest without asking questions. Why don't you start up a terrorism thread and see how quickly you got feds kicking down your door? Freedom of speach :Laugh: