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PEACE
if you eat one meal every 24 hours of fruits vegetables and other natural foods you gonna be in perfect health.......every 48 hours you gonna be in even better health.......72 hours would be even better....
drop that science wooly...they not ready
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my reply wasn't direct to you
but there is even division among the orthodox tradtional ritualistic muslims
why do people feel that they have the true Islam ?
how is the quaran from ALLAH ?
how do you know for shure it is the word of ALLAH if Muhammad got the revelation from a man in a cave ?
a division does not ultimately hint to the fact that the islam for some muslims is less effective or anything!
considering the 5% is an offshoot of the NOI.. it doesnt mean you are better or worse in any way than them..
its the way one interprets islam which is important..
ie..islam teaches not 2 eat pork.. therefore we follow.. not blindly because there is common knowledge on why one should refrain from it.. furthermore.. islam teaches to keep away from intoxicants... which is in this sense alcohol smoke drugs anything which influences the mind of self to do things which is not good for the longterm hence intoxicants... a beautiful teaching of islam in terms of how 2 simply conduct life... now how was that interpreted by the 5%? its a question with ease and not hostility..
as for the quran... teach a man how 2 write..teach a man grand knowledge and wisdom.. teach a man how 2 write a book in form of mild poetry...
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One point I would like to bring up is not the difference between 5%ers and orthodox muslims, but the differences between 5%ers beliefs and practices, particularly in Hip Hop.
From what I can tell, and I may be mistaken, alot of these "Muslim" rappers (wu tang, vinnie paz two examples that come to mind) don't seem to be overly muslim. Alot of these rappers preach Islamic ideology, 5% or otherwise, and then seem to spend the good part of their lives drunk, smoking weed etc.
Whether 5% or just muslim, are there any rappers who have actually given up such vices totally for Islam?
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i understand now
yall really don't understand what this 5% Noi thing is about and may never really find out
i can explain some of these issues but it ould cause alot of problems and expose some things to some people who has no business knowing
The Islam that Most people are into is a religion
the 5% NOI are not religions and this is what is confusing yall
it really isn't a religion
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Peace
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PEACE
The bible even gives us more insight into who these "Messengers" are going to be.....the last chapter of the old testament says ELIJAH will come in the last days...........
Are you suggesting that the Biblical prophet Elijah that was to come in the last days (reincarnation) would know he was thee Elijah the Prophet, and that he would actualy bear the name 'Elijah' during his lifetime??
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and Revalations says that the Lion of Judah Root of David will open the book to release the seals........
What were those seals according to your knowledge?
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Abraham had a dream where his seed would serve a stranger for 400 years and afterwards come out with great substance.......according to the bible Moses ISrealites served 430 years.......thats not 400......
Can you show where in the Bible it states that Israelites served 430 years in Egypt??
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1555 the first enslaved Africans arrived in the "new world"......in 1955 black people got equal rights.....thats 400 years........
Where is the great substance recieved in 1955 to fulfil the prophecy?
History records that the bulk of kidnapped black people from Africa arrived in North Amerikkka in 1619.
Other prophecies state that the time would be cut short and 350 years would be the time to be under the white man, thus that time was supposed to be up in 1969.
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thats why ELIJAH MUHAMMAD and the Lion of Judah Ras Tafari was sent to the decendents of enslaved Africans in the USA and Carribean.........
Many teachers were sent before and after these men.
Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?
Peace
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if you really could anser those questions you would
your a lyer and you mask truth from yourself so that you can feel like your doing the right thing
its quite sad
What question, ya'll have no real questions- not ones that you could have got ur lazy asses up to find out for yourself. ask some real questions and you'll get some real answers. but ur old skool, these arguements we had last year i dont intend to repeat them and pollute this forum. your old, tiring, full of nonsense, and thankfully your views dont hold much weight in the general and islamic world. Al hamdullilah
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what the fuck does this have to do with anything
answer the questions and stop ducking you duck butt fuck
lol hahaha man....wow....u getting angry boy?
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the prophet jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights moses did 121
more statements and no source and no proof
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the longest i went was 7 i know people who did and does 19 easily
i know some one who did 43 days
clap clap clap clap clap......congratulations - his name might be david blane
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just because you cannot fathom keeping things outa your mouth for long periods of time does not mean it cannot be done
more insults........thanks
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why do you continue to bring up yorks name when i haven't mentioned him once in this thread before you
before me no indeed, but 7L7 mentioned his writings....until you put your nose in the discussion no one directed anything to you.....
anyways this is the last post im making here......i dont intend to bring my mental down through worthless posts, dat will bring you further and further down into ignorance and darkness, when you got some real questions post them- they'll get answered and well never have to have this discussion again. Allah guides whom He wills and those whom are astray will never find guidance without the will of Allah.
1.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 213
"(All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path. "
They claim to love what Allah has sent but when it is recited to them they hate what is being said.....
On that note PEACE OUT....
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dam your words is weak lol
i'm serious too
i've built with many
and you gotta be on the top 3 most retarded list
yo i'm serious as cancer when i say that
perhaps its because your a white muslim foreigner envious of the ways of the Gods
again
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
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U dont know where im from.....but if you did you would get put to shame
and why u signing in with all ur different accounts....sad guy, very sad
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go swallow some pig nuts SUN worshipper lol
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and why u signing in with all ur different accounts....sad guy, very sad
i've accumulated many attributes over the years its a Hip Hop Black man 5%er God body thing you know nothing about
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do u feel stupid now?
why would i feel like you ?
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PEACE
damn i almost missed this one.....here we go....
"Are you suggesting that the Biblical prophet Elijah that was to come in the last days (reincarnation) would know he was thee Elijah the Prophet, and that he would actualy bear the name 'Elijah' during his lifetime??"
No i am NOT saying that........the Bible(Malachi 4:5) clearly states the name of the prophet sent in the LAST DAYS will be named ELIJAH......
"What were those seals according to your knowledge?"
Eh.....its basically humans destroying the earth with the knowledge they recieved from the black man(ALLAH)....war, pollution, super scientifical madness.......
"Can you show where in the Bible it states that Israelites served 430 years in Egypt??"
Yes i can..... Exd 12:40Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, [was] four hundred and thirty years. http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gifhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gifhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif
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Exd 12:41And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.
"Where is the great substance recieved in 1955 to fulfil the prophecy?"
Well...nobody can deny that the entire world wants to be African American............Jazz, Hip Hop, Fashion.....the African American is clearly the trendsetter for the whole world......
"History records that the bulk of kidnapped black people from Africa arrived in North Amerikkka in 1619."
From what i have studied Africans were kept in concentration camps from 1555 to about 1620 in the USA and Carribean......
"Other prophecies state that the time would be cut short and 350 years would be the time to be under the white man, thus that time was supposed to be up in 1969."
from my studies 1914 is the expiration date of the white mans rule......
"Many teachers were sent before and after these men".
yes true indeed....the Quran even says that MESSENGERS(plural) will be sent in the last days.....
"Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?"
Brother....you are GREATLY mis-informed on that one.....one day i was watching old news reels from the 30's.....new reels made by AMERICAN reporters....and these AMERICAN reporters were calling him the LION OF JUDAH......
Haile Selassie was known as the Lion of Judah Root of David to Ethiopians and the whole world.......
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Why are you even here? Wu is 5%, so why are you here?
Go somewhere and burn a cross or something...
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lol.. this thread has become very hostile..
i hope that we can find common ground somewhere along the lines.
i see that Islam does not belong to anybody .. only to the creator.. who has bestowed the universe with this system.
like the planets encircle the way they do.. its a way of life...
like how a tree grows from a sees.. its a way of life..
now this is common ground for both 5% and other muslims and also non muslims who appreciate the significance of islam to many people.
the problems arise from the dispute.. that the term and concept of God has not yet been fully established well enough..
hence we see fights between 5%ers and other muslims.. whereby no solution can be found.. its a stalemate..
and from the stalemate.. people start dissin each other in the hope that whoever wind the "DISS" wins the entire conversation
the picture is wider..
lets act like adults and get things rolling harmoniously
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PEACE
damn i almost missed this one.....here we go....
"Are you suggesting that the Biblical prophet Elijah that was to come in the last days (reincarnation) would know he was thee Elijah the Prophet, and that he would actualy bear the name 'Elijah' during his lifetime??"
No i am NOT saying that........the Bible(Malachi 4:5) clearly states the name of the prophet sent in the LAST DAYS will be named ELIJAH......
Where does it state in Malachi 4:5 that the prophet will be named Elijah??
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"What were those seals according to your knowledge?"
Eh.....its basically humans destroying the earth with the knowledge they recieved from the black man(ALLAH)....war, pollution, super scientifical madness.......
This is what you said:
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and Revalations says that the Lion of Judah Root of David will open the book to release the seals........
How did Haile Selassie release seals which led to events that happened before and after his time??
Where exactly does it say the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt, I don't see it.
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"Where is the great substance recieved in 1955 to fulfil the prophecy?"
Well...nobody can deny that the entire world wants to be African American............Jazz, Hip Hop, Fashion.....the African American is clearly the trendsetter for the whole world......
Where does it state that the substance would benefit the world?
When I read the verse in question it implies that the substance would belong solely to the people of the prophecy.
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"History records that the bulk of kidnapped black people from Africa arrived in North Amerikkka in 1619."
From what i have studied Africans were kept in concentration camps from 1555 to about 1620 in the USA and Carribean......
With the mass importation of Gods people to North America (the future United States, the future head of the Beast) those events are what changed the world forever, because it set the wheels in motion for where we are now. This happened in 1619, it's a vey important and historic year.
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"Other prophecies state that the time would be cut short and 350 years would be the time to be under the white man, thus that time was supposed to be up in 1969."
from my studies 1914 is the expiration date of the white mans rule......
I was refering to prophecies that came after the 400 year prophecy that would mark the end of the captivity (of the 400 years being cut short). Not of the end of the whites man rule.
But to address your statement above concerning the expiration of the white mans rule supposedly in 1914, how would that explain the United States rise to power after that year, and it not attaining it's full Beastly powers until the Second World War??
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"Many teachers were sent before and after these men".
yes true indeed....the Quran even says that MESSENGERS(plural) will be sent in the last days.....
According to your knowledge who are those messengers?
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"Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?"
Brother....you are GREATLY mis-informed on that one.....one day i was watching old news reels from the 30's.....new reels made by AMERICAN reporters....and these AMERICAN reporters were calling him the LION OF JUDAH......
American reporters also ran articles that he was buried under a toilet. Are you implying that American reporters are/were trustworthy in their method of journalism? Or that they understood what the title Lion of Judah represented??
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Haile Selassie was known as the Lion of Judah Root of David to Ethiopians and the whole world.......
I specifically questioned if he acknowledged it, not what others believed him to be.
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PEACE
"Where does it state in Malachi 4:5 that the prophet will be named Elijah??"
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Mal 4:5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
"How did Haile Selassie release seals which led to events that happened before and after his time??"
How????? I'm not Haile Selassie.....maybe one day when i have purified myself i could learn such esoteric knowledge.....
"Where exactly does it say the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt, I don't see it."
HUH????!??????.....the verse i just posted from Exodus 12 said 430 years......are you trying to be funny or something????
"Where does it state that the substance would benefit the world?
When I read the verse in question it implies that the substance would belong solely to the people of the prophecy."
The verse doesn't say what your saying.......
"With the mass importation of Gods people to North America (the future United States, the future head of the Beast) those events are what changed the world forever, because it set the wheels in motion for where we are now. This happened in 1619, it's a vey important and historic year."
No...it happened in 1555 by a devil named John Hawkins on a ship named Jesus.....
"I was refering to prophecies that came after the 400 year prophecy that would mark the end of the captivity (of the 400 years being cut short). Not of the end of the whites man rule."
huh????? the end of the white mans rule was 1914....not 1955.......
"But to address your statement above concerning the expiration of the white mans rule supposedly in 1914, how would that explain the United States rise to power after that year, and it not attaining it's full Beastly powers until the Second World War??"
Thats all explained in Revalations.......the United STates has been loosing power since 1914.....the federal reserve came into place and all of americas gold began to go to europe........the horrors of industrialism and pollution began which brought about disease........people wonder why the USA works so hard to conquer and keep its hand in every part of the globe.......they have to work so hard because they know their rule has ended.......
"According to your knowledge who are those messengers?"
Fard Muhammad, ELijah Muhammad, Haile Selassie, Father Allah, Bob Marley......to name a few......remember the age of the mystery God is over...its time for humans to be God once again.......
"American reporters also ran articles that he was buried under a toilet. Are you implying that American reporters are/were trustworthy in their method of journalism? Or that they understood what the title Lion of Judah represented??"
Ummmmmmm......i brought up the American news reel because YOU seemed to think that nobody called Haile Selassie the Lion of Judah.....so i used the american news story to show you that even the DEVIL called Selassie the Lion of Judah.......
"I specifically questioned if he acknowledged it, not what others believed him to be."
From my knowledge he did but not openly......he was the King of Ethiopia.....if he proclaimed he was Jah Almighty the CIA would have killed him in about a month.......
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I understand that Elijah the prophet would be sent. I don't see where it states, as you claim, that he would be named Elijah.
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"How did Haile Selassie release seals which led to events that happened before and after his time??"
How????? I'm not Haile Selassie.....maybe one day when i have purified myself i could learn such esoteric knowledge.....
I should've asked this first: when was it that Haile released the seals, and where can we read his breakdown of what those seals represented??
And to revise my question that you quoted. How did he release seals to events some of which took place millenia before his actual birth??
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"Where exactly does it say the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt, I don't see it."
HUH????!??????.....the verse i just posted from Exodus 12 said 430 years......are you trying to be funny or something????
I know it says 430 years. That wasn't my question, though. You said they served 430 years, but the verse doesn't say that.
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"Where does it state that the substance would benefit the world?
When I read the verse in question it implies that the substance would belong solely to the people of the prophecy."
The verse doesn't say what your saying.......
But the verse is what you claimed it to be saying? That it's about international African American influence, hip hop, style, trends, etc.??
This is the verse in question:
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Gen 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
It specifically states they would COME OUT after their servitude with great substance. It does't state they would remain in their condition with great substance. Neither does it say the great substance (which you believe to be talent and style) to be to anyone elses benefit. (as you previously implied)
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"With the mass importation of Gods people to North America (the future United States, the future head of the Beast) those events are what changed the world forever, because it set the wheels in motion for where we are now. This happened in 1619, it's a vey important and historic year."
No...it happened in 1555 by a devil named John Hawkins on a ship named Jesus.....
No?? What can you actually refute from my statement above? The official record has 1619 recorded as the date.
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The History of Slavery in America
From the beginnings of slavery in British North America around 1619
Slavery in America
What's relevant is that it happened in the future United States, in that year as it relates to prophecy, here where it was to be revealed to the descendents of the kidnapped ancestors that they are the children of the living God.
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"I was refering to prophecies that came after the 400 year prophecy that would mark the end of the captivity (of the 400 years being cut short). Not of the end of the whites man rule."
huh????? the end of the white mans rule was 1914....not 1955.......
Don't get it twisted. It's apparent that your understanding of the 400 year prophecy causes you to misunderstand what I was trying to bring out above.
To elucidate on my comment further; after the 400 year prophecy was given there's other prophecies that were recieved that were relevant to it. Some of those prophecies state the time (the 400 years) given previously would be cut short (to 350 years). So when those 350 years were up (starting from the official date of 1619, the year that began the servitude here in the United Snakkkes) it would be the end of the servitude, but not the end of the white mans rule, so I don't know why you even brought that up about the end of their rule.
But 1914?!? The open enemy was still to give much more hell on earth to pass that year off as the "end of the white mans rule".
In fact they (the U.S.) had only begun to attain power, starting in the late 1800's.
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"But to address your statement above concerning the expiration of the white mans rule supposedly in 1914, how would that explain the United States rise to power after that year, and it not attaining it's full Beastly powers until the Second World War??"
Thats all explained in Revalations.......the United STates has been loosing power since 1914.....
What' explained in Revelations? I know World War I is, but that wasnt a major blow to them.
It was World War II that America reached it's GREATEST height. So this belief about the year 1914 is unfounded. Their loss of power happened many years later.
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the federal reserve came into place and all of americas gold began to go to europe.......
That was all by their own design, and they were still growing into a world military power with international influence.
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the horrors of industrialism and pollution began which brought about disease........
That was self inflicted, and didn't do anything to stunt their rapidly growing military might, technology, and international political clout.
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people wonder why the USA works so hard to conquer and keep its hand in every part of the globe.......they have to work so hard because they know their rule has ended.......
Yeah, but it didn't end 91 years ago.
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"According to your knowledge who are those messengers?"
Fard Muhammad, ELijah Muhammad, Haile Selassie, Father Allah, Bob Marley......to name a few......remember the age of the mystery God is over...its time for humans to be God once again.......
With all due respect, those men are dead. They can't send messages to anyone anymore. Where are the messengers today??
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Ummmmmmm......i brought up the American news reel because YOU seemed to think that nobody called Haile Selassie the Lion of Judah.....so i used the american news story to show you that even the DEVIL called Selassie the Lion of Judah.......
First of all I asked if he acknowledged the title bestowed upon him, not if anyone ever called him that. But as for your statement here, that makes me not trust the whole scenerio even more. The devil does not broadcast the truth like that, neither do they put prophets of God on the front page of their magazines.
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"I specifically questioned if he acknowledged it, not what others believed him to be."
From my knowledge he did but not openly......he was the King of Ethiopia.....if he proclaimed he was Jah Almighty the CIA would have killed him in about a month.......
The CIA ran/runs the media, who you claim called him Lion of Judah, that is essentialy promoting him to be JAH.
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Where are the messengers today??
they are being killed and stepped on by the same people they come to bring the message to
black people suffer from the "oh you ain't shit" sydrome
so today we have messengers fighting messengers
science majors fighting social studies majors
but i tell you
we all have a very short time to get it all straight
we are not exempt from the Supreme Beings Wrath because of our 9-etherness
and please lets not get into a FAMILY debate in these threads again
too many gerbil niggas in the home
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so yall feel we should not have another mod who will have a view opposite to the one we have
here is the situation
you have a fool named jasper who was calling us nigger for about a month in here
but he's liked by the mods so he stayed on despite the complaints
even though he eventually got banned it took a very long time
7EL7 gets banned for asking for a black mod to make the situation unbaised
plus the mod here feels that he wasn't conducting himself well here
but jaspers ass was posting pictures of 11 year old bikini models thinking it was funny
something is very wrong here
plus we got this asscrack sicka calling me a moolie which is equivalent to calling someone a nigger
but nothing is done
something is very wrong here
but i know the outcome
"if you don't like it don't post here" will be the response
this all proves my point
and thank yall for giving me ammo
for the final battles
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Lmao
its all white peoples fault
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its all white peoples fault
bitterness is a seed. let it grow and see the outcome sunny
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we are all messengers when you look from a certain standpoint
jasper and 7el7 were some of the more entertaining ones
it isnt true unless it makes you laugh
you dont understand it until it makes you cry
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its all white peoples fault
Lmao
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PEACE
"I understand that Elijah the prophet would be sent. I don't see where it states, as you claim, that he would be named Elijah."
.....heres what it says one more time for you....MALACHI 4:5.....BEHOLD I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THAT GREAT AND DREADFULL DAY......I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH.....ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH.....do you see that????? It says i will send you Elijah.....not Bob.....or Larry....or Keylowlow.....no.....ELIJAH.........thats what it says.....
"I should've asked this first: when was it that Haile released the seals, and where can we read his breakdown of what those seals represented??
And to revise my question that you quoted. How did he release seals to events some of which took place millenia before his actual birth??
I know it says 430 years. That wasn't my question, though. You said they served 430 years, but the verse doesn't say that."
the bible clearly states that the Isrealites left Egypt because pharoah was killing the male children and shit......even Joseph came to Egypt in chains......most Biblical scholars will say that Abrahams dream of 400 years was speaking of the ISrealites in Egypt.....but it clearly says 430 years......
"But the verse is what you claimed it to be saying? That it's about international African American influence, hip hop, style, trends, etc.??
This is the verse in question:
It specifically states they would COME OUT after their servitude with great substance. It does't state they would remain in their condition with great substance. Neither does it say the great substance (which you believe to be talent and style) to be to anyone elses benefit. (as you previously implied)"
Huh???????? your not making any sense.......
"No?? What can you actually refute from my statement above? The official record has 1619 recorded as the date."
Official by who? the white man?
"What's relevant is that it happened in the future United States, in that year as it relates to prophecy, here where it was to be revealed to the descendents of the kidnapped ancestors that they are the children of the living God.
Don't get it twisted. It's apparent that your understanding of the 400 year prophecy causes you to misunderstand what I was trying to bring out above.
To elucidate on my comment further; after the 400 year prophecy was given there's other prophecies that were recieved that were relevant to it. Some of those prophecies state the time (the 400 years) given previously would be cut short (to 350 years). So when those 350 years were up (starting from the official date of 1619, the year that began the servitude here in the United Snakkkes) it would be the end of the servitude, but not the end of the white mans rule, so I don't know why you even brought that up about the end of their rule."
Huh???????you not makin anysense????
"Yeah, but it didn't end 91 years ago."
Its been declining ever since 1914.....at this rate the world will soon be uninhabitable.......
"With all due respect, those men are dead. They can't send messages to anyone anymore. Where are the messengers today??"
I only named people who i can prove are Messengers.....there are Messengers today but im not gonna stay shit i can't prove.....i only stick to what i can prove.......
"First of all I asked if he acknowledged the title bestowed upon him, not if anyone ever called him that. But as for your statement here, that makes me not trust the whole scenerio even more. The devil does not broadcast the truth like that, neither do they put prophets of God on the front page of their magazines.
The CIA ran/runs the media, who you claim called him Lion of Judah, that is essentialy promoting him to be JAH"
Uhhhhh......everyone in Ethiopia called him the Lion of Judah.....he called himself the Lion of Judah.....he was the 225th ruler of the Solomon/Sheeba dynasty.......thats why he called himself the Lion of Judah......the fact that you don't know this just shows you are un-qualified to even debate the subject..........
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i called u a mooly cuz it rhymes with wooly, the word aint as harsh as nigger. it just means "dork, or nerd. I never knew the meaning till wooly pointed it out. maybe u should delete your sig, it's obvious your mad about some shit from months back that no one cares about. if u want me to be cool, take that sig down please, its over. no one cares. its your choice to END it. why drag it on. sorry for calling u a mooly, I called you a honkey to, did that make u sad. i sure as hell know "gerbil nigga" had no affect on me whatsoever. quit instigating. i take the insults back, ONCE AGAIN,..are u man enough to do the same? peace
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
i called u a mooly cuz it rhymes with wooly, the word aint as harsh as nigger
ok i'll call you cracker since its not as harsh as devil
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
if u want me to be cool, take that sig down please, its over.
if i want to be cool ?
nigga this ain't high school
the fuck outa here with that shit
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
no one cares. its your choice to END it. why drag it on. sorry for calling u a mooly, I called you a honkey to, did that make u sad. i sure as hell know "gerbil nigga" had no affect on me whatsoever. quit instigating. i take the insults back, ONCE AGAIN,..are u man enough to do the same? peace
peace ?
lmao
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no peace??, haha, whatchu gonna do than man, post after me till the end of time. rock my quotes.
here, so we're on the same page,
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Originally Posted by WOOLY
ok i'll call you cracker since its not as harsh as devil
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now ill put it in my sig to even the "made up , cant even say beef, yo, "made up, some shit....
oh yeah, i dont have to. your so into this white devil shit everyone can see through you. your a hater, everyone knows it, an I can bet you use the word cracka half the times you gotta talk about a white dude. your glass man,see thru, I know your a rascist, nothin wrong with that. quit postin after me. STOP!! NO MORE. ITS OVER. FIX SIGNATURE! OR FOREVER BE A STUPID HATER.
look at your sig, ive told you sorry god knows how many times about shit ive said, im not perfect. whats your point, i posted it in my own sig, its stupid, i took it out
you also keep posting after me like your smarter an better and after awhile u fuckin pissed me off. thats why i went off
peace?.....you want war or some shit?....get the fuck outta here. if all u got is a quote from me,... something that gets u recognized, or spreads hate, than your pathetic. that isnt me, im not like that 95% of the time....you bring up racial issue's, your gonna atract love and war, why u think that post is gonna make cats think thats me all the time. they know im not like that all the time. sorry again,....
u shut up real quick when u found out the doctors didnt know how to screen blood till the mid-late eighties.
oh shit, what's the coast guard up too?
greenpeace, oh no!!!
i believe there's some wak shit out there, do u teach kids half the shit you teach here?
like i said, draggin on stupid shit (sometimes,... most of your knowledge is prolly good teachings)...(if i contradict myself in this post, shit happens, IM NOT PERFECT, so dont take that stance in your response, its played out anyways) fuck it, quit posting after me.
what the fuck? peace
(that isnt even an insult,...like everyone thinks we're at war an shit, haha)....yo, Intellekt vs Skale, thats a funny feud. snap out of it, if u wanna fuck with someone go fuck maximott.
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Peace
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Originally Posted by knowcheeze
.....heres what it says one more time for you....MALACHI 4:5.....BEHOLD I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THAT GREAT AND DREADFULL DAY......I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH.....ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH ELIJAH.....do you see that????? It says i will send you Elijah.....not Bob.....or Larry....or Keylowlow.....no.....ELIJAH.........thats what it says.....
I know what it says. And what it doesn't say is that the person would be named Elijah the Prophet which you've simply assumed that he would but you havn't proven.
The scripture in question implies reincarnation. Reincarnation does not suggest the person would carry the same name they once did in their former life (or lives).
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"I should've asked this first: when was it that Haile released the seals, and where can we read his breakdown of what those seals represented??
And to revise my question that you quoted. How did he release seals to events some of which took place millenia before his actual birth??
Do you intend to answer these questions??
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I know it says 430 years. That wasn't my question, though. You said they served 430 years, but the verse doesn't say that."
the bible clearly states that the Isrealites left Egypt because pharoah was killing the male children and shit.....
Where in the Bible does it state "the Isrealites left Egypt because pharoah was killing the male children"??
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even Joseph came to Egypt in chains......most Biblical scholars will say that Abrahams dream of 400 years was speaking of the ISrealites in Egypt.....
I'm not concerned with what most "Biblical scholars" say.
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but it clearly says 430 years......
Right, but WHERE does it say in that scripture they SERVED 430 years as you continue to assert??
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"But the verse is what you claimed it to be saying? That it's about international African American influence, hip hop, style, trends, etc.??
This is the verse in question:
It specifically states they would COME OUT after their servitude with great substance. It does't state they would remain in their condition with great substance. Neither does it say the great substance (which you believe to be talent and style) to be to anyone elses benefit. (as you previously implied)"
Huh???????? your not making any sense.......
Let me break it down for you, then.
This is what you said in post #130 of this thread:
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Where is the great substance recieved in 1955 to fulfil the prophecy? -- Kephrem
Well...nobody can deny that the entire world wants to be African American............Jazz, Hip Hop, Fashion.....the African American is clearly the trendsetter for the whole world...... -- knowcheeze
My reply was in post #134:
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Where does it state that the substance would benefit the world?
When I read the verse in question it implies that the substance would belong solely to the people of the prophecy.
Your only reponse to this was:
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The verse doesn't say what your saying.......
So I asked if your interpretation of the relevant verse can be matched with what the scripture is actually saying.
I wrote:
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But the verse is what you claimed it to be saying? That it's about international African American influence, hip hop, style, trends, etc.??
Because you were claiming the scripture which mentions "great substance" was refering to "people wanting to be like African Amercan's, ....Jazz, Hip Hop, Fashion, Trends".
So I then posted the verse to ask how you came to such a conclusion :
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Gen 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
Do you even understand the relevant scripture?? I emphasised that it specifically states they would COME OUT of their servitude with great substance.
If the "great substance" was refering to the things you mentioned why has the first part of the prophecy not been fulfilled?? where it states these people were supposed to have come out of the nation they had been serving??
Not only that, the "great substance" in the scripture was never specified for you to guess it's about "African American style, music, and trends". All of those things are 'gifts' from the black mind to the world, for all you know that great substance mentioned is 'god like power' in order to go whip the worlds ass for their historical mistreatment of black people.....
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"No?? What can you actually refute from my statement above? The official record has 1619 recorded as the date."
Official by who? the white man?
For hundreds of years many atrocities were being recorded for reasons unbeknownst to the white historian who probably couldn't fanthom the society we live in today. These records were made because they are supposed to be for our learning, and they serve as evidence. What reason do you have to think this record kept of the slave trade is not official??
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Don't get it twisted. It's apparent that your understanding of the 400 year prophecy causes you to misunderstand what I was trying to bring out above.
To elucidate on my comment further; after the 400 year prophecy was given there's other prophecies that were recieved that were relevant to it. Some of those prophecies state the time (the 400 years) given previously would be cut short (to 350 years). So when those 350 years were up (starting from the official date of 1619, the year that began the servitude here in the United Snakkkes) it would be the end of the servitude, but not the end of the white mans rule, so I don't know why you even brought that up about the end of their rule."
Huh???????you not makin anysense????
Here's a quick breakdown, then:
1) You don't know what you're talking about. This is apparent when it comes to things that pertain to the Bible, so it makes no sense that you continue to refer to it.
2) As far as the 400 years that you think happened from 1555 to 1955:
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1555 the first enslaved Africans arrived in the "new world"......in 1955 black people got equal rights.....thats 400 years........ -- knowcheeze
The year when African Americans recieved some fabled "equal rights"?? That is hilarious.
3) The 400 year prophecy, if you knew anything abou Bible prophecy, which you obviously don't, was CHANGED and was CUT SHORT to 350 YEARS.
4) From 1619 adding 350 years you get THE YEAR 1969, and that's something you know nothing about of Biblical prophecy and classified United States history that pertains to that year.
5) The reason why we are still in this country and the 400 year prophecy of servitude continues on is because someone refused to listen to God, so there's beef. Until that nation is judged and the people of the prophecy come out with great substance.
You still confused there "knowcheeze"??
Mar 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
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"Yeah, but it didn't end 91 years ago."
Its been declining ever since 1914.....
This statement can't be proven with actual documented history. America in FACT became a SUPERPOWER during WORLD WAR II. (the 1940's)
superpower
1944, in geopolitical sense of "nation with great interest and ability to exert force in worldwide theaters of conflict," from super- + power.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none
How do figure a "decline" was happening to a country that was yet to rise?!?
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at this rate the world will soon be uninhabitable.......
Yes that's because events which began during the Industrial Era have only degenerated further up to the present time.
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I only named people who i can prove are Messengers.....there are Messengers today but im not gonna stay shit i can't prove.....i only stick to what i can prove.......
Begin by "proving" that Haile released seals that would set off events that transpired BEFORE his birth.
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Uhhhhh......everyone in Ethiopia called him the Lion of Judah.....he called himself the Lion of Judah.....
Then prove that he called HIMSELF the LOJ, I don't know if he did, I'm asking for evidence.
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he was the 225th ruler of the Solomon/Sheeba dynasty.......thats why he called himself the Lion of Judah......the fact that you don't know this just shows you are un-qualified to even debate the subject..........
Show and Prove that this alleged affair between Solomon and Sheba produced a seed and point out where in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel it's recorded (chapter and verse please). But before you do that, can you even prove in the Bible they had sexual relations with each other??
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
no peace??, haha, whatchu gonna do than man, post after me till the end of time. rock my quotes.
here, so we're on the same page, .
now ill put it in my sig to even the "made up , cant even say beef, yo, "made up, some shit....
oh yeah, i dont have to. your so into this white devil shit everyone can see through you. your a hater, everyone knows it, an I can bet you use the word cracka half the times you gotta talk about a white dude. your glass man,see thru, I know your a rascist, nothin wrong with that. quit postin after me. STOP!! NO MORE. ITS OVER. FIX SIGNATURE! OR FOREVER BE A STUPID HATER.
look at your sig, ive told you sorry god knows how many times about shit ive said, im not perfect. whats your point, i posted it in my own sig, its stupid, i took it out
you also keep posting after me like your smarter an better and after awhile u fuckin pissed me off. thats why i went off
peace?.....you want war or some shit?....get the fuck outta here. if all u got is a quote from me,... something that gets u recognized, or spreads hate, than your pathetic. that isnt me, im not like that 95% of the time....you bring up racial issue's, your gonna atract love and war, why u think that post is gonna make cats think thats me all the time. they know im not like that all the time. sorry again,....
u shut up real quick when u found out the doctors didnt know how to screen blood till the mid-late eighties.
oh shit, what's the coast guard up too?
greenpeace, oh no!!!
i believe there's some wak shit out there, do u teach kids half the shit you teach here?
like i said, draggin on stupid shit (sometimes,... most of your knowledge is prolly good teachings)...(if i contradict myself in this post, shit happens, IM NOT PERFECT, so dont take that stance in your response, its played out anyways) fuck it, quit posting after me.
what the fuck? peace
(that isnt even an insult,...like everyone thinks we're at war an shit, haha)....yo, Intellekt vs Skale, thats a funny feud. snap out of it, if u wanna fuck with someone go fuck maximott.
so sad
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
STOP!! NO MORE. ITS OVER. FIX SIGNATURE! OR FOREVER BE A STUPID HATER.
here man stick to these type threads
New World Record For Masturbation Set!!
http://wutangcorp.com/showthread.php?t=9975
GENERAL CHAT IS CALLING YOU
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your a faggot
so sad, go masturbate?"....thats all u got Wolly?
yeah, ill go masturbate for red cross so us governmental whitey's can inject that truth semen your so afraid of into you an your kids. ill be down at the blood bank as soon as im done injecting your wifey. WHAT?! PWND!!!11,...your a bitch, i rest my case
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your a fag
so sad, go masturbate?"....thats all u got Wooly?
yeah, ill go masturbate for red cross so us governmental whitey's can inject that truth semen your so afraid of into you an your kids. ill be down at the blood bank as soon as im done injecting your wifey. WHAT?! PWND!!!11,...your a bitch, i rest my case
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this clown really think he gangsta
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this clown ^ thinks cat's care^ hahaa!
ill cya later wooly, hahaha. peace
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Originally Posted by Sicka Than Aidz
this clown ^ thinks cat's care^ hahaa!
ill cya later wooly, hahaha. peace
if you didn't care you wouldn't be begging me to change my sig
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re-tard please
PEACE
heres what you wrote at the on-set on of all this....
"Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?"
to your knowledge?????? The simple fact that you DIDN'T know he called himself the Lion of JUdah shows you are un-worthy to even touch on this subject.......so far you have shucked and ducked your way throught this whole thing......do some research before you debate a subject please....
"I know what it says. And what it doesn't say is that the person would be named Elijah the Prophet which you've simply assumed that he would but you havn't proven.
The scripture in question implies reincarnation. Reincarnation does not suggest the person would carry the same name they once did in their former life (or lives)."
Why you keep talking about reincarnation????? Does it say reincarnation anywheres.....just stick to the scripture....it says a person named ELIJAH will come in the last days........
"Do you intend to answer these questions??"
I'm not you.....i don't try to speak on subjects i never studied...that would be foolish.......im not HAile Selassie so i don't know......
"Where in the Bible does it state "the Isrealites left Egypt because pharoah was killing the male children"??"
Oh my goodness......as i said dog.....please study before you debate people......if you don't know the Bible says this then you shouldn't be debating in the first place......
"Right, but WHERE does it say in that scripture they SERVED 430 years as you continue to assert??"
Please do some studying before you debate......please
"Here's a quick breakdown, then:
1) You don't know what you're talking about. This is apparent when it comes to things that pertain to the Bible, so it makes no sense that you continue to refer to it. "
Huh???? its clearly YOU who lacks knowledge about the bible......and everything else......
"3) The 400 year prophecy, if you knew anything abou Bible prophecy, which you obviously don't, was CHANGED and was CUT SHORT to 350 YEARS"
Huh???? Abrahams dream was of 400 years.......
"4) From 1619 adding 350 years you get THE YEAR 1969, and that's something you know nothing about of Biblical prophecy and classified United States history that pertains to that year"
Huh????? 1555 is the year the first Africans were brought here......
"5) The reason why we are still in this country and the 400 year prophecy of servitude continues on is because someone refused to listen to God, so there's beef. Until that nation is judged and the people of the prophecy come out with great substance.
You still confused there "knowcheeze"??"
Clearly theres only one person who is confused here and i have clearly proven that......
"Begin by "proving" that Haile released seals that would set off events that transpired BEFORE his birth."
Then prove that he called HIMSELF the LOJ, I don't know if he did, I'm asking for evidence."
As i told you before im not Selassie......i'm not the one who is lacking in knowledge about Haile Selassie Mr. " Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?
".........i have read plenty of books about the life of Selassie and his countrymen callled him that.....he even signed his letters "Lion of jUdah"......as i said.....the fact you don't know this reallly shows that you need to study before you debate.....so far this whole thing has been one big waste of time.....
"Show and Prove that this alleged affair between Solomon and Sheba produced a seed and point out where in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel it's recorded (chapter and verse please). But before you do that, can you even prove in the Bible they had sexual relations with each other??"
Its in a book called the Kebra Negast.....read it....in fact...please read a whole lot more before you try and debate.....you have really made a fool of yourself......
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PEACE
heres what you wrote at the on-set on of all this....
"Also why put a title (Lion of Judah) on Ras Tafari which to my knowledge he never acknowledged?"
to your knowledge?????? The simple fact that you DIDN'T know he called himself the Lion of JUdah shows you are un-worthy to even touch on this subject.......so far you have shucked and ducked your way throught this whole thing......do some research before you debate a subject please....
The only one ducking here is you, why not just prove that he called himself that? Since you seem to have done the research and consider yourself "worthy" to mention it in the first place.
Show and Prove.
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Why you keep talking about reincarnation????? Does it say reincarnation anywheres.....just stick to the scripture....it says a person named ELIJAH will come in the last days........
Why do I mention reincarnation? Because the scriptures do. They asked if John the Baptist was Elijah, or did you not know that?? There is no way you can debate the fact. It clearly states Elijah the Prophet would come in the last days. Nowhere does it state "a person named Elijah would come in the last days".
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"Do you intend to answer these questions??"
I'm not you.....i don't try to speak on subjects i never studied...that would be foolish.......im not HAile Selassie so i don't know......
Why bring him up if you couldn't show & prove that he was what people believed him to be??
How do you know he did this?
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and Revalations says that the Lion of Judah Root of David will open the book to release the seals........ -- knowcheeze
Can you admit here that you were not "worthy" to even bring the subject up, and by your own words, have been foolish in doing so??
moving on....
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"Where in the Bible does it state "the Isrealites left Egypt because pharoah was killing the male children"??"
Oh my goodness......as i said dog.....please study before you debate people......if you don't know the Bible says this then you shouldn't be debating in the first place......
I've been doing my studies, thank you, and I'm telling you - you need to study harder. It's obvious I already knew what the verse said, that's why I asked you to quote the scripture. It's there in black and white - it doesn't say the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt.
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"Right, but WHERE does it say in that scripture they SERVED 430 years as you continue to assert??"
Please do some studying before you debate......please
It's obvious I've done more study on the subject then you have, so why not just admit you're wrong about what the verse says instead of convincing yourself I don't know what I'm talking about, or even worse ignoring what your own eyes are telling you??
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"3) The 400 year prophecy, if you knew anything abou Bible prophecy, which you obviously don't, was CHANGED and was CUT SHORT to 350 YEARS"
Huh???? Abrahams dream was of 400 years.......
That's correct. That's why I wrote 400 years. Then I further informed you that prophecies came after it that changed it. You do realize that Abraham wasn't the final prophet, yes??
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"4) From 1619 adding 350 years you get THE YEAR 1969, and that's something you know nothing about of Biblical prophecy and classified United States history that pertains to that year"
Huh????? 1555 is the year the first Africans were brought here......
Where were they brought to in 1555?
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Clearly theres only one person who is confused here and i have clearly proven that......
Huh?????
So why all the questions?????
WHY do you continue to AVOID proving that Israelites SERVED 430 years in Egypt?????
Or that a man NAMED Elijah would come in the last days?????
Or that Haile was CALLING HIMSELF Lion of Judah?????
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"Begin by "proving" that Haile released seals that would set off events that transpired BEFORE his birth."
As i told you before im not Selassie......
So WHY did you bring him up claiming he "released seals"?? Why do you pass off information without FIRST having done the knowledge??
"Do the KNOWLEDGE, Son. before you do the WISDOM" -- RZA
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".........i have read plenty of books about the life of Selassie and his countrymen callled him that.....
I never questioned that.....
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he even signed his letters "Lion of jUdah"......as i said.....the fact you don't know this reallly shows that you need to study before you debate.....
.....but I did question why YOU call himed him LOJ. I was not familiar that he used the title to refer to himself. It's only NOW that you mention he signed his letters with "LOJ". (Do you have a source for that??)
But your initial piece of "evidence" (in post #130) you stated:
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Brother....you are GREATLY mis-informed on that one.....one day i was watching old news reels from the 30's.....new reels made by AMERICAN reporters....and these AMERICAN reporters were calling him the LION OF JUDAH......
And I told you I don't trust devil or the media in such matters. The CIA ran the "media" and they still run the shit, especially back in the "1930's". (the date you gave; btw do you have a source?)
Then you further stated:
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Haile Selassie was known as the Lion of Judah Root of David to Ethiopians and the whole world.......
And I understood that to be the case. Though I must ask you this; are you implying that the "whole world" believed him to be the fulfillment of the title mentioned in the book of Revelation?? And do you believe he believed that of himself??
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"Show and Prove that this alleged affair between Solomon and Sheba produced a seed and point out where in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel it's recorded (chapter and verse please). But before you do that, can you even prove in the Bible they had sexual relations with each other??"
Its in a book called the Kebra Negast.....read it....
Why do refer me to the KN? You made the claim about a biblical figure (Solomon) and I asked you to prove:
* WHERE in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel is the seed of Solomon and Sheba recorded?? (chapter and verse please)
* WHERE in the bible is it written that they had sexual relations?? (chapter & verse)
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in fact...please read a whole lot more before you try and debate.....you have really made a fool of yourself......
Then perhaps in this debate you are the wise, and the mighty?
1Cr 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;