I figured this same discussion would be going on in this thread and the boxing thread.
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I figured this same discussion would be going on in this thread and the boxing thread.
how come floyd wants to take random blood tests but manny doesn't lol
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Originally Posted by PeterToictDakagick
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Originally Posted by PeterToictDakagick
Pac-man is going to be fighting Josh Clottey it seems now on March 13th
The entire boxing world is ecstatic
At least Clottey will put up a fight. But then again, that's what we thought about Cotto...Quote:
Originally Posted by 11th Chamber
sigh now watch Josh get the upset
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708
I guess its hopeless now. Sucks that the politics of boxing has to ruin the fight of our lifetimes
why are you so adamant about defending Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ
This request of Manny is so out of line that I would do Manny for going thru with it.
THis fight is off because Floyd isn't ready or doenst want to fight because he knows no fighter is going to agree to such a ridiculous stipulation.
Wow...Clottey would be a tough & good fight for Pacman. Though I'm crossing my fingers hoping that the Mayweather fight still happens March 13.
I don't think the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight will happen that early, maybe in may.
LOL... maybe Philthy Rich Records will blow up! He's signed Fred Billionaire (?). He should also ask Frank Thomas about his Undyniable Records & see how much $$$ he lost with that. I know Floyd has made a lot of money but he seems to spend it just as quick as he earns it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
Zab Judah should have beat Mayweather in that fight. Boxing has dissapointed me ever since that happened. Including the De La Hoya panties thing
What's the big deal with taking a test? If he has nothing to hide this should be no problem. We could've been had this fight set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
Floyd is putting up as much red tape to fuck with this fight
floyd trying to get out of this fight for whatever reason and make it look like mannys fault.
floyd is ducking
Is having only one loss really that bad for Mayweather?
whatever it is they jus fucked boxing hard with this. when everyone thought that yeah maybe we got ourselves a boxing rivalry like the ones back in the day, they go and fuck it up.
I mean you can blame both sides, but the main blame goes to Mayweather's camp. they jus seemed to be acting like bitches over the whole thing, and it seems that Floyd ducked out of the fight. on the other hand Manny should have jus accepted, his reasoning was pretty weak. now everyone gonna question if Manny taking shit.
freddy roach and flloyd mayweather sr have a long feud history. I think a bog factor is freddy roach refuses to take orders from the mayweather camp. even so, manny tried to meet him halfway. its not floyds place to demand this.
so it seems its an excuse for him.
its no secret boxing is rigged. the judah fight is an example. the sport has alot invested with fighters like floyd having undefeated records for years. Im wondering if pacquiao is stealing that from floyd and now theyre investing in manny and thats why floyd has doubts or something similar.
bob arum is a fucking dirt bag, this faggot whines like clock work when he doesnt get his way!!!!!!
give the fans the fight they want, which is manny vs floyd!!!!!!!!
boxing as a whole takes a loss when the big fights dont go down over bullshit!!!!!!
and this old stooge arum wonders why boxing keps losing popularity... get a clue, promote fights worth seeing!!!!!!
This is the last thing boxing needs right now. Its a real bad look for the sport when they cant even put on this fight, the biggest fight of the last 15 years. It should be a no brainer.
The problem is theres people running the sport without the sport at heart, its got to breaking point now.
Added to that and all the bad blood between the camps, people like Freddie Roach never wanted this fight now anyway, he always wanted Manny to fight someone else next.
Which is bullshit IMO, theyre not both spring chickens, they dont need anymore potentially draining fights at their ages, each extra fight now will take something out of them.
They should both fight now, at their peaks, not fucking around with more fights. This is the most obvious fight in decades and they cant even get it on. Fucking JOKE.
how so? he got his ass handed to him after the first 5-6 rounds like he always does... when did he get screwed???Quote:
Originally Posted by PALEHORSE
^shut the fuck up if you ain't talking boxing
you have to have atleast 2 sold background to be competitive in mma as in striking + wrestlingQuote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
a decent wrestler would take a boxer down at will - chuck and rampage both have good wrestling (its very hard to take chuck down and keep him down) if you have no wrestling it would turn out very badly
but in a pure boxing fight 99% of the ufc would get pwned by the better hands of a world class boxer
they are 2 different sports - good boxing works well in mma but its completely different because they are always thinking about the take down - leg kicks or w/e
an mma fighter is a jack of all trades while a bower is a master of one
Mayweather doesn't have the right to be making demands like that. He's never demanded this type of drug testing before for any of his previous fights, why is he doing it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Manny has never failed a drug test. He has no apparent ties to steroids. What's wrong with the standard testing? Why does Floyd want all these special rules? He looks like a scared bitch right now.
Thats what im saying and have been saying.
WHO THE FUCK IS MAYWEATHER TO TELL PACQUIAO he needs to take a drug test???
Manny is as much a draw as Mayweather, this fight is only this huge because it includes BOTH of them.
NO WAY if im Manny am i getting on my knees and adhering to this ridiculous request.
Manny did the right thing in my opinion.
you can't be seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by King Tron 1
you just can't
this is a big fight, the biggest fight of our lives ... and all mayweather asked for was scrutinized testing ... if manny would've asked for that and mayweather refused i don't even need 2 say how you dorks would be actin right now ...
the FACT of the matter is, mayweather is willing to take random blood tests and pacquiao isn't
they do the same testing in boxing during the olympics, it shouldn't be that big of a deal
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Originally Posted by King Tron 1
Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by PALEHORSE
Anyone who knows boxing knows Judah lost that fight. I love Zab, but no way did he deserve to win that one; fair enough he did knock Floyd down which wasn't scored, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
u being a rebel, you should understand that nobody is going to take orders from someone who is your superior, let alone your equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ
If Manny was making this stipulation of Mayweather I'd be shitting on Manny.
Its stupid, its not needed, no boxer has ever put this kinda bullshit on another fighter.
Its ALL on Mayweather as far as I'm concerned.
If he wanted to fight Manny, he would have.
It looks like he doesnt want to.
all that manny has to do to fight floyd is agree to random testing
that's it
and floyd has a really good reason ... what other boxer do you know that came from fuckin 33 pounds rose up the ranks and knocked out opponents bigger than him with ease? who the FUCK does that? i'm not claiming manny is juiced up but it's a pretty good reason to look into it ... it seems like he is stronger than bigger opponents which is weird to me ... mayweathers seem to think similar things ... why won't he just take it ... so much money and all MANNY has to do is agree to random testing ... it don't make him a sucker
all floyd has to do is not demand a ridiculous request and fight him.
what mayweather doing is out of the ordinary...not Manny
i agree that it's an out of the ordinary request but would u agree that this is not your ordinary fight?
and if the request was that ridiculous, why is that the standard testing in the olympics? floyd isn't trying to commission some obscure no name testing group, this is the group that tests everyone who participates in the olympics, so why is it "ridiculous" ...
i think mayweather is putting safety first by making this request ... at the end of the day, pride is getting in the way of manny signing the contract ... it's all pride on HIS part
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Originally Posted by PeterToictDakagick
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Originally Posted by benzo
for real why is this wanker not banned yet?
The following is an official statement directly from Manny Pacquiao himself, issued Sunday Dec. 27, 2009 through his official website MPBoxing.com. Despite Bob Arums statements to the contrary Saturday night, Pacquiao states he is willing to take 3 blood tests beyond what is required in a normal fight.
Manny Pacquiao: I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone.
These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the Announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have Offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight.
If Floyd Mayweather Jr. does not accept these terms than my promoter will find me another fight for March the 13th. Again I will fight anyone at anytime.
The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.
These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified. To all of my fans I want to say thank you very much for all your support and understanding. I always give honor to God first and I would never cheat. I would never Cheat God, I would never cheat myself, and I would never cheat my country and my fans.
I would always like to be known for my honor and my integrity. I will always be known for my courage and my willingness to face any man at anytime in my career. If Floyd Mayweather Jr. truly ever wanted to fight me and he is not really scared he would accept these terms I am willing to give him as they are above and beyond what the commission demands.
I should not have to prove myself as I have always done what the commission has asked me to do and I have never ever swayed from that. Never has there been a time where anything I have ever done has been in question. I stand behind my honor and my integrity. I stand below God and my Country. I stand with my fans and I hope Floyd is not really really a coward and will fight me and give the fans what they want to see. I am not afraid to fight Floyd anywhere anytime.
its obvious mayweather dont want this fight
This is the thing motherfuckers... Floyd and his camp, among others, think that that he's on PEDs, right? So they stipulate that he be subjected to the randoms because they want him to get caught. If they thought he was juiced then they would expect him to come up dirty proving to me that FLOYD NEVER WANTED THE FIGHT. He wanted to find a way to beat Manny and take away his P4P status without ever stepping into the ring with him....and he may have.
that's bullshit, because manny was on hbo's 24/7 getting his blood drawn less than 30 days before the fight ... so tell me, why can he get his blood drawn within 30 days of hatton but not mayweather? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????Quote:
Originally Posted by PALEHORSE
Bart you just dont get it.
If Floyd wanted this fight, he'd be fighting. This was purposely constructed to try to make Manny look bad but anyone with a brain knows whats really going on.
In Boxing people cheer for their own race/ethnicity.
Black people are never going to admit that Mayweather is wrong on this one.