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Eddie, no seas tan huele bicho. You don't like Reggaeton- fine, but you don't know shit about the fuckin music. I swear yall muthafuckas sound like some cryin ass bitches when you diss an entire genre just because YOU don't like it. Fuck, I don't like ROCK, but I don't go around tellin niggas "Fuck Rock!" WTF? Go cry about it to someone who gives a fuck about your bleedin pussy issues...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddyjay
Se real amigo, el reggaeton es musica de raperos fracasados. Es la busqueda del engaņo, vender a nuestra cultura como si fuese una puta y de paso traicionar los valores que lo forman. El underground mantiene vivo el hip hop, el reggaeton lo pudre.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
La comercialidad pudre al Hip Hop- el Reggaeton era parte del underground hasta que los Americanos lo descubrieron. Pero siendo real- e escuchado tu musica y no puedes hablar. Tu musica no sirve y como rapero eres novato. Puede ser que te criaste en un mundo de Hip Hop, pero no el mundo original de Hip Hop como nos criamos la mayoria de los raperos de Reggaeton. No es para decir que los Espaņoles no pueden ser buenos raperos, pero primero no somos de la misma cultura, y segundo tu no eres uno de los Espaņoles que son buenos raperos (algunos de los cuales si e escuchado). Tu no eres ni de America ni de Puerto Rico para tener una opinion cierta sobre el Reggaeton. Esa es nuestra cultura, y aunque solo me llevas unos aņitos en edad eres un viejo en cuestion de estilos, cultura, y sabor de musica.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddyjay
Tampoco me gusta el Reggaeton que se escucha en la radio, pero no puedo negar la historia del Reggaeton que comenzo en el '92. Tu no has escuchado Reggaeton por los pasados 16 aņos para tener una opinion basada en la realidad. Claro que todos tenemos nuestra opinion sobre musica, pero decir que el estilo destruye el genero es ignorancia. Raperos que no conocen la cultura y aun opinan- como tu- eso destruye el genero.
Mangani, di lo que quieras, pero conozco gente de latinoamerica que odia el reggaeton y expone el mismo punto de vista sobre la comercialidad, el hacer dinero facil a costa de vender su culo, y esos si que saben y lo han vivido mas que yo. Aceptalo, hubo muchos raperos que no consiguieron hacer dinero con el hip hop y solo con pasarse al reggaeton les vino la pasta del cielo. Quien oye mayoritariamente "mainstream hip hop" (digo la mayoria, no todo el mundo)? La gente que oye hip hop ocasionalmente, los que no entienden ni quieren entender nuestra cultura y solo quieren bailar en un club. Quien oye mayoritariamente reggaeton? Los mismos. Esta todo dicho.
Respecto a lo que comentas de mundo original de hip hop y sobre que si mi musica no sirve, solo puedo reirme. No te gusta mi estilo? Bien, pero si esos comentarios vienen de ti no me preocupan en absoluto. Desde luego con el reggaeton no te complicas mucho la vida en cuanto a musica, y en cuanto a rimas, lo siento, pero las tuyas dejan mucho que desear. Wack.
Como empresario lo mismo tienes futuro, pero como B-Boy...mmmm...mejor replanteate lo que haces.
Nada mas. Saludos.
i think a lot of people just dont care for reggaeton so they arent interested in this. even without listening to a track they understand that wu-latino is focused on a genre of music they arent into.
i cant stand country music and if Rza decided to invest in a label to form "wu-country" im not gonna give it the time of day cuz i think country music sucks.
good luck with it anyway....
The point I'm making has nothing to do with Wu Tang Latino. WuLatino is not a "reggaeton" label, they are an Urban Music label. I do Reggaeton.
Eddyjay is criticizing Reggaeton based on what he has heard "other" people say (conozco gente de latinoamerica que odia el reggaeton y expone el mismo punto de vista sobre la comercialidad), but I have made the same point about commercial music without dissing Reggaeton. A genre is not commercial- the commercial artists and radio stations are commercial. Eddyjay and none of the other Reggaeton detractors can name any "underground" Reggaeton artists, yet I can name more underground Reggaeton artists than I can name commercial Reggaeton artists because I don't listen to the radio. If you don't listen to the radio then you have nothing to complain about, but the fact that that's all you've heard is a testament to your own commercialism.
As far as being a B-Boy, Eddyjay, I have no aspirations to be one. You show your own ignorance to the overall culture of Hip Hop by even making such a statement. You blast people who want to dance at the clubs, yet B-Boys are dancers. I am not a dancer, I am a rapper. If you are a B-Boy then stick do dancing because you are a wack rapper. Yes, you called me a wack rapper and said my opinion on your music doesn't matter to you, yet I have been on 8 radio stations in Spain with regular rotation from 2006... when have you been on the radio in my home country? Not that "radio" play is an indicator of quality, but the standards are different in Spain right? Yet I have been on the radio in Spain and you haven't. Furthermore I have never heard of you until you came to criticize me... see how that works??? I can waste my time writing a diss track about someone none of my fans have ever heard of, but I can't make you famous because I will be seen as a bully once they hear your music.
As far as Latin Americans growing up in Hip Hop culture, buddy I travel to Latin America extensively. Yes they have an underground Hip Hop scene... and they are always on my nuts when they hear my music. I get requests constantly from underground artists asking me to collaborate with them, and I often do because I am humble and can appreciate the fact that in their small world I am somewhat of a celebrity (though I don't consider myself one at all). How many requests do you get from people wanting to work with you? Have you listened to your music???
I am not here to bash anyone, but aside from being an artist I am a fan of music, and when a rapper makes a comment about an entire genre they open themselves up to criticism from fans- your music is not music. It is noise with incoherent babbling. You are a wack rapper Eddyjay, face it.
Reggaeton is a sub-genre of Hip Hop that has been growing strong since 1992. You don't have to like it, but to criticize something without knowing a thing about it is ignorant. Reggaeton is a genre full of some of the best liricists, and it is also full of some of the wackest commercial fags to ever hit the radio. That is commercialism. Underground is underground, and Eddyjay, you know nothing about Cacoteo or Latin Hip Hop culture. You claim the culture but the culture doesn't claim you. I grew up in Hip Hop and you are not Hip Hop. You "mimic" Hip Hop culture, but all you are is an imposter and a perpetrator- just like the commercial Reggaeton artists you criticize.
im not addressing you or chiming in on the back and forth you're having with various members of the forum. im responding to the original question of how can you support wu and not support wu-latino.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
Well that was an irrelevant question as it came from a non-WuLatino artist/Dj. I don't believe you should support Wu Latino just because you support Wu Tang... that's fuckin retarded. I think you should support the individual artists as they EARN your support, not "just because"...Quote:
Originally Posted by wadedigital36
Just with this answer, I have nothing to discuss with you. Even I understand you. If you are happy with your wack make money shit, then, do it. The day you have anything more interesting that saying "Puņeta!!" maybe I'll change my opinion about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
But, please, stop making me lessons about what is real or not, underground or not.
Peace.
co-signQuote:
Originally Posted by Eddyjay
I just wanna say I support los latinoesss
Chea!
Paz
-Juan Valdez's Cousin
-You have nothing to discuss with me because I don't aspire to be a B-boy? Apprently, you don't even know what that is. Tienes que ser bien idiota para pensar que un rapero tiene que ser un b-boy, pana. And as for "Puņeta", since when does making an exclamation about the genre's lack of lyricism make you about "make money shit"? Someone in Spain need some Spanish lessons??? The fact of the matter is you are not defending your wackness or saying I'm wack, you are making an elitist backpacker argument against my music. You don't defend your argument with your music because at least in that aspect you agree with me- musically and lyrically I rap circles around your nobody ass!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddyjay
-And how did someone who refers to Latinos as "latins" become a spokesman for the culture? Learn the culture first before you pretend to be OF the culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by zatanyakuza
Relax.
mira tio abre la mente....Quote:
Originally Posted by eddyjay
Se nota que no tiene abierta la mente solament escuxand tu musica
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PEACE MANGANI
SIGE TU TRABAJO
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