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Stop acting like you are a know it all, and get off this anti-white, everything is corrupt, Islam is perfect bullshit. Its just as flawed as any other history. Maybe you shouldn't soak up everything the mosque teaches you and check the facts yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
LOL...put the shoe on the other foot and look how sensitive the other gets. Your right, it is a generalization...and much of what you say of white educational institutions and european culture itself is a generalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
So, boo hoo on you.
You should stop chatting shit whiteman, cuz now iam gonna have to rinse you out with factual knowledge not "whiteman research"
The Islamic Golden Age, also sometimes known as the Islamic Renaissance, is traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 13th century, though some have extended it to the 15th or 16th centuries. During this period, engineers, scholars and traders in the Islamic world contributed to the arts, agriculture, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, and technology, both by preserving and building upon earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own. Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together created a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent
A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the medieval Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples) and psychiatric hospital, the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute
Another common feature during the Islamic Golden Age was the large number of Muslim polymath scholars, who were known as "Hakeems", each of whom contributed to a variety of different fields of both religious and secular learning, comparable to the later "Renaissance Men" (such as Leonardo da Vinci) of the European Renaissance period. During the Islamic Golden Age, polymath scholars with a wide breadth of knowledge in different fields were more common than scholars who specialized in any single field of learning
Here is a list of legendary islamic scholors,scientists,philosophers,theologians,astro nmiers and mathmaticians
Avicenna (ibn-sina)
Avveroes (ibn-rashd)
al-battani
Aamir Jalal Al Mosawi
ahmad ibn majid
Alhacen (ibn al-haythem)
Arzachel (Abu Ishaq Ibrahīm al-Zarqali)
Avenzoar (ibn zuhr)
Avempace (ibn bajjah)
Geber
Al idrisi
Al zahrawi
among many many others.....
NOW STOP CHATTING VERBAL SHIT WHITEMAN!!!
Iam not anti-white my mother is white, iam not a muslim, and i dont think islam is perfect, and i dont visit the mosqueQuote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
that just showed your hate towards arabs and muslims, just cause i said the truth about islam, arabs and slavery everyones callin me muslim and how i should stop listen to the dudes in mosques!!!! hahahaha
You have just showed your all out hate fo muslims,arabs and anything positive to do with them......silly people
You think the educational establishment has been left untouched while they have manipulated every other institution into brainwashing and feeding the masses what they want to be fed??? i dont think so brov, school is next to religion when it comes to feeding impressionable minds bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
No one is saying the Muslims didnt contribute anything. Trust me, I took many course on Islam and have read many books including The Travels of Ibn Battuta, and Abd Al-Malik, so your not schooling me...if thats what you were indeed trying to do.
I appreciate the culture, but for them to exault themselves over everyone else.....its natural, every peoples do it.
But they fell just as everyone else does into a Dark Ages after the conquests of the Mongols and Turks.
But Islam was spread by the sword just like anything else, and you can't just conveniently leave out the bad. They invaded Europe and took over most of Spain during the Ummayyad reign (if memory serves correctly) but were stopped or chose to stop(it isnt clear) at the spanish marche.
And not to mention the conquests in North Africa and abroad. How do you think Islam spread that fast in Arabia?
Why are you moving on to islamic conquests?, this topic is about "islam and slavery", but again just cuz i say something positive like how they have influenced the modern world in rebuttal to whitemans comments, you have to bring the negative points...cant you see what your doing....fuckin pathetic brov
Katana...your on that bullshit. There is more too it than 'oh your racist towards ARabs'....if you can't see it than your blind.
As far as school goes, I have had some of the best professor and I am lucky. College campuses are some of the most liberal places in this country and this isnt the fuckin 40's anymore...
Maybe your referring to High School cirriculum??
I dunno, but I cant tell you the amount of primary resources we have read, and that shit is straight from the horses mouth....
So, whatever points your trying to make, your really not doing a good job. Your only brainwashed if you allow yourself to be. I'm a historian, its my craft, its what I do, I look at things unbiasedly in context.
But there is also the context of the here and now, and the experiences of my own life...my own personal experiences with Arab immigrants.
The Fact Still Remains Of The Role Of The Arabs And Muslims Participating In The Slave Trade Is That They Were And Still Are Wrong For Doing It. They Were Just As Cruel Arrogant And Brutal As Any Other Slave Trader/holder. They Were No Better Than Any Other Group Of People Who Did It.trying To Say Only Positive Things Came Out Of The Arab/muslim Slave Trade Is Just Plain Ignrorant. Trying To Cover Up The Reality With, Oh The Muslims Did Some Great Things Regarding Science And Art. Ok, Nobody Denies Their Role In The Advancement Of Science And Arts, But That Doesn't Erase That Slavery Thing They Did.
Slaves With Rights Is Just As Funny As Jews For Jesus! One Of The Most Ignorant Stupid Ass Backwards Statements That I've Ever Read Or Heard Is That Only Positive Came Out Of Slavery When Arab/islam Participated In It. Slaves With Rights! Yeah Ok.
Negative??? Its history, good or bad. Stop being so sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
You should read your bible sirs. There's a lot of fucked up shit in their. Like for example: Did you know Jesus was a Jew?Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
AGAIN, AIN'T THAT THE KETTLE CALLING THE POT BLACK?Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE AND ARTS AND THE ISLAMIC RENAISANCE WHEN THIS THREAD IS ABOUT ISLAM AND SLAVERY?
YOU KEEP TRYING TO DIVERT THE FOCUS OFF OF ISLAM AND THEIR ROLE IN THE TRADING OF MEN WOMEN AND TRADING AS SLAVES. THEY DID IT, THEY WERE JUST AS FOUL AS EVERYBODY ELSE END OF DISCUSSION. YOUR SLAVES WITH RIGHTS SLOGAN ISN'T CATCHING ON.
First off dont let your experiences with immigrants cloud your judgementQuote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
Your a historian yeah, thats fantastic.....
collage campuses are "liberal" in your eyes not mine
"straight from the horses mouth" was you there when the horse spoke?,how do you know the horse is not lying?
the points iam trying to make are as follows:
Arabs treated their "slaves" better then all other slave trades and they were given more rights.
thats all i was saying but as usual someone sees me defending something to do with islam and they jump at my neck
whiteman your bullshit argument has been thrown in the sea, i kicked your ass with factual evidence so you still gotta carry a argument that had no substance to begin withQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
"o...ok then...but...but...arabs still did slavery and that was bad"