word @ Ern.. thats CLEARLY what I'm trying to say for the most part, thanx for understanding most of where I'm coming from, musically & towards the art..
ANYMORE QUESTIONS REGARDING FL?
word @ Ern.. thats CLEARLY what I'm trying to say for the most part, thanx for understanding most of where I'm coming from, musically & towards the art..
ANYMORE QUESTIONS REGARDING FL?
Just so EVERYONE can stop misunderstanding me... I'll make it simple for you all that seem to get childish tempers for CLUELESS reasons lol..
When I hear Ern make a beat, you can tell its HIS style.. when I hear Ozmosis make a beat, it's HIS style.. when I hear Massive's new shit, it's HIS style... that's what people expect to hear from this crew, DIFFERENT STYLES that stand out. Everybody else is pretty much riding behind the next man and it's harrddd to tell who's who when they drop, sometimes I wonder if others are making beats for others now. Who knows.. nevertheless, I wish you dudes would stop coming at me like I'm your enemy because I'm not. I come on here as much as possible to HELP mothafuckas. I state EXACTLY what's going on up here and all you respondees wanna do is bitch and complain, bitch and complain... can't even name your BEST beatmakers because you don't take the time to LISTEN to who's SERIOUSLY nice and who isnt... smh.. thats verrryy sad, but like I said... wanna say something else, start another thread and we can go on and on... otherwise...........
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SEE THE THING IS.. UR THE ONE HATIN-- U ARE IN NO POSITION TO BE THAT CRITICAL ABOUT PRODUCERS ON HERE.. U AGREED WIT ERN FOR SAYIN EVERYONE SHOULD DO WHAT THEY FEEL & MANIFEST UR STYLE N SOUND BUT WHEN U THINK ABOUT U BE HATIN ON CATS FOR MAKIN WHAT THEY FEEL ( THE LORDS FOR KEEPIN THAT CLASSIC SOUND THAT MANY PEOPLE LOVE) GET OFF YA HIGH HORSE... NAME 2 THAT CAN BRING IT TO U? HAHAHAH UR RETARDED I NAMED A BUNCH THAT BLOW U OUT THE WATER NO QUESTION AND I AINT EVEN MENTION MYSELF BECAUSE IM PRIMARILY AN MC!! KNOW YA PLACE.. THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENCOURAGIN PEOPLE TO ELEVATE THE CRAFT AND ATTACKIN PEOPLES STYLES JUST CUZ IT AINT UR TASTE. IF ITS ANYONE THAT MAKES REAL HEADS NOT WANNA COME IN THIS FORUM ITS YOU... AAAAAAAHAHAHAHQuote:
Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah
Lol listen, I have no logical reason to be hating on anyone. I've got nothing BUT respect for every last producer and beatmaker here. I agreed with Ern completely because he's pretty much sayin be satisfied with your style and evolve but that's not happening. But everything else you saying, no comment at all Lol.. thats funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by DEVAMPS
I ve yet to say anything on this thread, but I ve been keeping up with whats been going on. What Vamps just wrote I am a 100% percent with.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEVAMPS
Let it go Prime, people have different techniques, and diff taste on samples and drums... I am not going to lie, part of the reason why I dint drop a beat for the 3rd beat battle was because all of the bullshit that went on in the sign in and submit thread...as a matter of fact, I dont even think I will sign up for another one. Last round was a fucking joke...no offence to TECH for winning...but it was...not that the beats were bad, but just all the BS. (PROPS TO PLEX for keeping it alive though).
Prime, you claim to be an expert or whatever at FL, but yo I havent really anything spectacular from you. I use FL (so do a bunch of us), and I dont need instructions on how to do what I do... I do shit my way. How have I gotten better? Good criticism by some cats on this board that really have helped me develop. My catalog my not blow you away, but you can ask people and they will either tell you is ill, or its solid. All your beats kinda sound the same...yeah its your style, but your talking about growing, and that you havent IMO. You honestly really try to shit on like 300 of us saying that only 2 or 3 got it like that, so how the fuck you expect others to react??
Some producers here might not take it as serious as I do, but to me some of the cats on this board I can consider fam...and yo, you are shitting on my fam. Arrogance is a big no like I ve said before, especially on here. I am not dissing you, but you are not near the best producer on this board...do you have talent? I would say you do, but what makes you a least respected producer is the arrogance. TAKE IT PERSONAL...
PEace to all the real talent on here, and to those who are learning and have been steping their game up.
Exactly U Have No Logical Reason For Hatin.. So Why Are U?????? U Basically Diss Cats Who Much Better Then U... I Aint Gotta Say No More To U Cuz Ur Brain Is Obviously Not In The Right Place.. But Atleast Try To Get It Thru Ya Head..
None taken personal...Quote:
Originally Posted by InspectahChek
Speaking on my beats, nothing's EVER the same. Drums and all. Most of the beatmakers up here are EXTREMELY talented. I never took any credit from them for being credit towards WHAT they do in the outcome of their material. But in areas, it's cool to be influenced by legends like Muggz and Prince Paul and RZA but stem from their elements. I'm not anyone's "God" up here, nobody's a Killa Bee up here. Not exactly saying everyone is thoroughly duplicating the Wu sound, but it's between that and some originality is slacking. I never drop anything "amazing" or "spectacular" because I use those kind of beats towards either albums or mixtape joints. AGAIN, I'm not dissing any producer... whether or not they're fam to you up here. Least respected producer up here?.. Fine with me Lol.. On the flip side, I respect what you're saying Chek. I made this thread to TEACH others about music and the importance of certain aspects because just reading something or doing it isn't second criteria. Especially with FL, it's complicated when you're first learning it. People have MILLIONS of questions, thats why I decided to make this thread. Not to argue with anyone. All of this is a waste right now, but I'm trying to make myself clear (which obviously isn't coming across and I'm saying shit out of simplicity smh).. but word yo, I'm aggressive and I come off the way I do because I wanna bring the best out of dudes. Even if its not their A-game...but something that I can't even call Rap or of any genre..
Nevertheless, I'll keep my words to myself and let you all do what you do....
Next...
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Much respect Prime, always good to see people sharing their knowledge with the less experienced. If you don't agree with what he's saying or his methods, just keep it moving. I'm sure many people have been able to learn & take something from what's been posted here.
Personally, I just saw this thread.. gotta read it through and see what it's all about today.
Thanx Max.. much appreciated...Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Munch
ANYMORE QUESTIONS REGARDING MUSIC & FL?
yo prime
regarding producing. i'm curious do you have beats that contain both samples and also elements composed by you? i think you know what i'm saying. if so, please let me hear some. i'd appreciate. a beat fully hand made (no samples) is welcome too
peace
The strings on the Vasco beat were composed but it perfectly matched the melody.. beats with no samples that you would swear were samples?.. Precedents (the beat done for White Mouse) on my page.. no samples, the little samples in it were done by his homeboy but the beat itself, the keys and reverbed organs were all original..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard King
Again, before I continue this segment..
I wanna let every Beat maker/Producer that’s taking guidance from me know that I’m not doing this to innovate YOUR styles. I’m doing this to guide every beginner, whether you’re just sampling or entirely just starting, the fundamentals of music and various music software programs (how to use them, the important factors, etc..)
Just started making music?
Don’t rush and become so hasty to learn overnight because it’s not so simple. It takes years to master the craft of making music. Also, don’t feel ashamed to start out using software. Its been my weaponry for almost 10 years and people refuse to believe I have any form of software. I can’t speak upon Hardware that the professionals and others may use, but I will inform you about software. First and foremost, as a beginner, start out with FL Studio (which I have recommended over the time). With FL, get a feel for the drum kit that’s already provided. Get accustomed to loading the instruments, how to load them and other parts that will help you in the process. Personally, it’s the best way to learn the basics of everything. Nothing serious!! The first few months of making your music, just play with the program. Learn the instruments, what a “bar” is and how to change the pitch. All of the simple tactics. Very difficult at first, especially if you’re just learning, but you’ll get the hang of it.
Now…
If you’re looking for my advice before starting anything. You would like to be a Hip-Hop producer? Examine some of the work of the legends. This doesn’t necessarily mean just remain with the range of “Rap”. Listen to everything else out there. But here’s my point. Delivering a “refreshing” style is everyone’s objective. I will say this out of all honesty because it’s just going to happen regardless of what I say afterward. You WILL start off making beats that will sound typical and ordinary. But that’s where you’ll be experimenting more and more later in time. However, here are the primary Hip-Hop producers with large catalogues that are very distinctive. Examine and make YOUR WORK different and open a pristine road of sounds and styles. ONCE MORE, listen to these styles and remember them every time you make a beat. This way, you’ll know what’s safe to make your own. Word of advice, DO NOT and NEVER EVER mimic any existing styles. Set your own standards and experiment. Practice. Practice. Practice. Here’s who to study:
(these producers have influenced MANY others or PAVED the way for the best)
Erick Sermon
Diamond D
Lord Finesse
The Beatnuts
DJ Premier
Pete Rock
The Neptunes
Timbaland
Dr. Dre
Easy Moe Bee
Marley Marl
Buckwild
DJ Muggs
The RZA
Havoc
Prince Paul
Q-Tip
Hi-Tek
In the process of sampling?
Keep doing what you’re doing. FL has a lot of methods that will take months (technically years) to figure out BUT that’s for you to learn yourself. However, I would like to put everyone onto a few music programs that allow you to sample. JUST for you all to feel comfortable with the simplicity and complexity.
Before I get into that…
ALWAYS make sure you’re picking fluent samples. The best samples are always the ones you’ll have to mix and bring better quality out of. That’s double the time and greater results. Then again, you may look at it the other way around but either way, dig deep into it. Sampling isn’t just an art, it’s a religion. Think about that.
FL is pretty much the overall studio piece that most beat makers and producers use primarily. But I’ll feel free enough to tell you about very few of the other music-making programs out there.
::Tracktion::
Most likely, it’s used for recording vocals in general (and I will agree, it’s the BEST program for recording, I put it over Pro Tools and anything else personally). I recommend Tracktion more than anything else because, one, it’s not an half-assed program. It gives you that professional feel. Somewhat more complicated than FL and has excellent mixing quality. I started out with this, using loops and all kinds of other things to start out sampling. This program taught me the fundamentals of almost everything I know, recording-wise. So, if you’re looking for something aside from FL, download this program. It’s called Tracktion!!
::Tuareg::
A little more complex than Tracktion but the results are phenomenal. Learn the techniques yourself and you’ll thank me later.
Overall, FL will continuously give you the most ideas and has more than anything out there. So, it’s practically up to yourselves to just go through different testings but get just as much from what you use as much as you put into your work. No, you’re not getting a recording deal for this. But you’ll be one of the billions in this world that will be respected for making your own roots. Criticism will go both ways at whatever you do, musically. I’m only saying these things so you all will know ahead of time. You’ll have the pros. You’ll have the cons. All you can do is increase your production skill.
::Loading Plugins Into FL Studio?::
1. Go to “My Computer”
2: Click on your C: drive
3: Click Program Files
4: Look for the folder “Imagine-Line”
5: Click on FL Studio (6,7,8... Whichever you may have)
6: Go to Plugins
7: Click VST and drag your dll extension files in the folder
8. Open up FL Studio
9. On the menu at the top, click on Channels
10. Click on Add More..
11. Select the plugins you want
12. Go to the bottom where it says “Refresh”
13. Exit and return to the FL board
14. Open a new sampler and right-click Replace or click Insert
15. Select your plugin and it’s all you from there
Homework (at your own time)
Those already sampling:
Download this song and practice mixing; drop your results here or in my Inbox
I’ll review them later
http://www.zshare.net/audio/10377162106cd966/
Those just starting:
Review the producers I listed at the top
Keep practicing and playing with the sounds on FL
Anyone may ask questions, just drop them here!!
Next guide will focus on music itself.
}:| : you know that feeling you get before Uncle Phil throws Jazz out the house? :
Lol.. worddQuote:
Originally Posted by MF Herbs
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