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as ive said it before the problem imo is not that IT criticizes the goverment. theres nothing wrong with that but i cant understand how can he glorify bloody-handed dictators. there may be some(or a lot of) problem(s) with the US gov but stalin, saddam and castro are much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tres.Bo.
on point, too many people believe the hype. Put yourself in the "enemy's" shoes for a second.., you'd be scared shitless of the U.S. at this moment. People think it's suspicious when a country arms itself (ie. VENEZUELA)...in all honesty..it's just common sense. The U.S. is on its manfest destiny tip right now..determined to establish some pseudo democracy in any region that doesn't agree to its idea of government or ideals in general., they are so determined to spread and establish it...that we'll bring guns to lay down the law. We are in a HOSTILE state right now, nothing about war is pacifistic at all. If you saw some guys down the street..guns blazing...and they were headed in your direction..guns blazing...are u gonna sit there and pick ya nose...or arm up? Capitalism brings blood to the streets. I'm not in opposition to americans...I just don't support this government. I actually feel bad for the average american..., they have no clue where all this is headed....., I've been telling peeps the science before 9/11. Before 9/11 the average american called me a damn lunatic...after 9/11....I'm "aware." You would think 9/11 would be a wake up call. And for the record, RACISM is still at large, more hates crimes than ever before these days....check the archives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanha
but like my man said yo, "if you only knew what the USA does around the world, if you only knew." <---it's that..and what THEY'VE BEEN DOING for EONS.
unfortunately KARMA exist..and it's slappin us in the face right now. THINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN FOR NO APPARENT REASON (I.E. 9/11). If you look into our Foreign Affairs interactions...from a political to a MILITARY standpoint...and what they do..., you'd be shocked as shit....to find out..in some areas of the earth...we are bigger terrorists than you could even fathom.
this war....of capitalism versus 3rd World Countries....has been going on for eons. 3rd World Countries over history...have suffered tremendously because most of them don't adhere to this fake democracy and capitalism...SO THEY ARE LEFT OUT TO DRY on the food chain....or.....they have a different culture, way of life, religion, or they are called "savage," and we're supposedly going to "CIVILIZE THEM." (WHAT'S SAVAGE IS GROWIN THE WORLD'S LARGEST CROP OF ATOMIC BOMBS AND TELLING EVERYONE ELSE NOT TO EVEN GROW 1 PLANT) And if they don't "convert" to democracy..., they become an endangered species. WESTERNIZATION is a mechanism that ensures a country's wealth, stability..and the ability to compete economically. Alot of people fear WESTERNIZATION because...a long with it..comes the american lifestyle..which is viewed as being perverse, savage..and will completely WIPE out any historic to present culture it comes in contact with. IF YOU ARE POOR..YOU CANNOT COMPETE ON THE GLOBAL SCALE OF THINGS, 2...YOU WILL BE AN EXPLOITED NATION SOONER OR LATER..., 3.....YOU HAVE NO SAY, NO POWER, NO VOICE....AND IF U DO...IT IS INSIGNIFICANT BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR., 4..ANY DOMINANT NATION THAT ENDS UP EXPLOITING YOU...WILL DO AS IT PLEASES TO YOU, AND BECAUSE OF NUMBER 3...THE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE DOMINANT NATION UPON YOUR PEOPLE AND LAND WILL GO UNKNOWN.
this determination by the US to spread its doctrine to all who are not following it...is extremely dangerous and lethal. It is part of the reason why the average american is becoming a sittind duck in his or her HOMELAND....stolen by the same minds that EXIST today.., just in a more advanced or modernized since.
so....ol slogan but still is meaningful...POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
and for the record, I don't like Saddam nor Bush.., just ain't my type of people.
btw..Immortal Technique has his own agenda...remember that..,
peace.
SubliminaL tha 7th BorN
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Originally Posted by Kanha
thank you man that is a bold statement. now if you excuse me i will put on a shield to protect myself from biased people who will proceed to call me a dickrider.
Cuba was way more fucked before Fidel Castro took over. And If it didn't went good after that is because of the American's embargoQuote:
Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
America and Europe fuck every third world country.
As said earlier, he has the right to criticize the government, but look who he gives praises too. The biggest terrorists in the modern world's history. End of storyQuote:
Originally Posted by SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
And by the way. Immortal Technique isn't racist. He said
My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up.
In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-Fuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.
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So in conclusion, I'm not gonna vote for anybody just 'cause they black or Latino they have to truly represent the community and represent what's good for all of us proletariat.
Viva la revolution!
damn son, what the fuck you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
Look at revolutionary vol 2's inside cover
There is a picture of Ben laden lying dead with bullet holes all over his body
by the way the biggest terrorist ever is corporate america
Because the corporate America killed more people than Hitler like Tech's boy Stalin did? right.. get out of here
You're not ready for tech, try early 90's Will Smith .....( cough) token!Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
Belfalo, please read this. You seem to hear only what you want to hear. You quote Rza but then what about "Peace Saddam/www.mastakilla.com" - Masta Killa or where Raekwon refers to Wu Tang as 9 Bin Ladens. Raekwon has also made various comments gloryfying 5%er's and various dictators. Is that not glorifying? Or is it just that your a wu fan so they can't do anything wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by frosted592
Don't hand pick your quotes to suit your argument. Look at the whole and then answer cuz I can hand pick quotes and argue for hours but it won't mean anything.
But he's from America. He doesn't need to worry about the law of the countries he praises. All you seem to want to say is that Immortal Technique is not American cuz he praises other countries. How the fuck is he not American and more importantly you are not the judge of who is and who isn't American. You can't tell someone what he is or isn't cuz you don't agree with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
I find your point of view very contradictory. You say that the US is better than other countries cuz they can't speak over there yet you want someone to be censored? Doesn't make sense. Fact is simple - IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE IS AMERICAN AND WELL WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO SPEAK UP ON WHAT HE SEE'S. There is no lawfull way for you or anyone else to shut him up or have him deported from America.
And explain please why North Korea hates the US. Check a unbiased history book and see.
Lets take a look at the New Orleans situation to see how good the US gov. really is. As long as the media was covering the devastation it was all cool with them and they didn't give a fuck, no one came and no one was sent. As soon as the population starts to whisper this is wrong, how come no ones been sent out? Is it cuz its a black town? Then the next thing we seen Condoleeza Rice packing food for relief packages. Can any black person say to me honestly that this kind of shit with Rice all over the news is not insulting to their intelligence? The gov. thinks that minorities are that dumb that they can be left to die and then they just put up a token black politician on tv putting packages in boxes and its all good again. That just plain insulting.
Democracy implies that the population is well informed enough to make an educated decision on the gov. it elects. So which country in the world is a democracy then? Cuz the media has its spins on brainwashing folk, the gov. is covering up and people like I.M. who have s different perspective to the majority need to be censored due to the wishes of the better off. Its just all hypocracy and thats all. We have people who believe racism is now irrelevant. Damn someone somehwhere is doing an excellent job for Bush.
I'll only give you two example of terrorist act by the us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShaolinAssassin
Do you know the CIA are responsible for overtrowing the democracy ellected social president Allende in Chili? They put Augusto Pinochet in power and maintain him for years. Do you know what Augusto did? He did it with the US's aproval.
In Vietnam, They told them they could get anelection to decide if they want a capitalism or communist country. When the date for the election came Washington decide they couldn't afford to let them vote cuz the communist party would have won. So they send GI's to train the facism's military and tons of weapon to fight the majority's will. They did it so they wouldn't lost hands on Vietnam's ressource.
And maybe they didn't kill more than Hitler but they were still making bizness with them untill 1941, even knowing their anti-jews law
Immortal isn't praising non-democratic state, he's only down with their people... And in a way it's more as an image to say fuck america.
You're acting like killa beez's Killarmy didn't sang they got a war plan more deadlier than hitler and that they wwill make terrorist act against america.