Slaughterhouse Push 18K CDs in First Week, Joe Budden Fails to Chart

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Originally Posted by angry!

what are you buddens accountant!?!?!?

get off his dick son why you so concerned about how long someone elses money is!?!?

i find it sad you go to those lengths to defend another mans situation!!!

straight salon shop nigga!! HOOOMOOOOOOO

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Ok. So if me putting out factual information into a discussion that’s based on money (look at the title kiddo) is "homo"...then what does that make the people here that put out fraudulent information into the same discussion in an attempt to throw hate at a group of men that are clearly experiencing success?

Better yet, what does that make people who actually took the time to maneuver their mouse and click onto a thread that they apparently have no interest in but simply with the intention to cherry pick people who are there to have a discussion? (i.e. you)

What does that make them?

P.S. - for the sake of the discussion, keep in mind that i did not make this thread. I did not speak on anyones money, success, or living standards, until it was brought to attention by other people - notably tical2000.

All i did was debate a statement. Thats what message boards are for.

So next time someone tries to insult me for liking slaughterhouse - then insult me for liking slaughterhouse. But dont try to throw some corny shit at me and ignore that fact that all im doing is debating a statement someone else made. If you dont like a general statement or topic..then attack the person that made that statement or topic, not me.

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Originally Posted by standout

P.S. - for the sake of the discussion, keep in mind that i did not make this thread. I did not speak on anyones money, success, or living standards, until it was brought to attention by other people - notably tical2000.

All i did was debate a statement. Thats what message boards are for.

So next time someone tries to insult me for liking slaughterhouse - then insult me for liking slaughterhouse. But dont try to throw some corny shit at me and ignore that fact that all im doing is debating a statement someone else made. If you dont like a general statement or topic..then attack the person that made that statement or topic, not me.

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Don't let it get to you, son. There are those on this board that just feed off of confrontation. It's a pissing contest coded with 1's and 0's.

the fact stays that slaughterhouse are just doing music and rhymes that inspectah deck was doing way better and way back in fucking '97 and earlier.

They are just clones. Weak clones.

Slaughterhouse and rappers like that got their WHOLE STEE all from Deck. Deck is a fucking giant influence on all these wannabeez.

Yo, aiyyo my rap style swing like Willie Mays
My eyes Purple Haze, my solar razor burn through shades
My grenades raid the airwaves, catch this rap page
I glide like, hovercrafts on the Everglades
Boom master, with the faster blade, track slasher
Manufacture poems to microphones, bones fracture
Limited edition composition spark friction
non-fiction, the calm bomb keep your arm distant
Zero tolerance, dominant intelligence
Wu original, true colors step from the melanin
The most high, most try, to get close by
and overthrow I, but choke, with they hopes up high
I circulate the tri-state and vibrate beyond the Richter
Flies sense to flock when they spot this live nigga
The crowd seducer black your third eye before I lose ya
Verbal high I leave stars in the eyes of Medusa
Top ten, parley like Cochran, it's often
narrow margin, of your odds to dodge the marksman
Murder rap, kill you soft like Roberta Flack
Words attack like a british bulldog, observe the stacks


^^^

This is basically what they are all striving to sound like. Whats really sad is that they either dont even know it, or are happy to be dissen flagrantly the very founders and creators of their own shit.

The problem is they dont have the clarity, innovativness, or variation of their Gods, the Wu Tang. Slaughterhouse are wack offspring, but these sort of groups are only possible in 2009 because of the success of Wu Tang.

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Originally Posted by standout

I could care less how much money they made. Thats a question you should ask the thread starter.

Only importance to me is the music itself. If the music is great, then thats all that matters.



A number says nothing unless its compared to other numbers - this is one of the first things you learn in Finance (if you really studied business). So 18k might seem low, but when you account that only 36k was shipped - that is abnormally high. 50% of the total shippment was sold in its first week. You dont see the significance?

Jim Jones just did 40k first week with 2 videos pre-album release and a major-label backing. Fabolous had the number 1 album in the country with 99k, 2 videos, 2 internet videos, and a major-label backing...

And the number of people in the group means nothing.


Wu-tang did 68,000 first week on a major label with the 8-diagrams, and there is 8 of them. And because their on a major their only getting like $1.50 per record vs. $7 per record on E1...Do the math...

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Ok you study business, we get it:thumbup:
So do I, and your argument hold no water what so ever. What it has to do with studiyng business is beyond me, its simple mathematics, nothing else! 18K is 18K no matter what. Are you telling me thay would sell twice as much if the shipment was twice as big??? I dont think so. Theyre a niche group, they have a certain fanbase with a certain size, thats it. And bwt 1600 copies is weak (and here you cant use the shipment excuse lol).
Honestly you must go to some kind of grocery school, dont act like you Donald Trump because you can divide numbers.

too much bullshit to read but here's my two frickin cents anyway...

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Originally Posted by tical2000

I guess getting punched in the face is not good for record sales!!!!!

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on the contrary, the face slap probably got him the 18k sales...and thats 18k sales too many IMO

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Originally Posted by Killbot

i dnt give a fuck this slaughterhouse vs wutang beef or w/e is fucking stupid...rae needs to face buddens 1 v 1 and lose and get it over with...

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wtf...who got slapped then apologized on da interwebz wearing an icewater scarf..you fuckin stupid or somethin?

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Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah

Slaughterhouse may never build an empire anything close to what Wu-Tang has.. *agreed*
Slaughterhouse may not develop more classics than Wu-Tang. *agreed*
Slaughterhouse may never single-handedly change the entire Hip-Hop industry like Wu.. *agreed*


BUT..


Right now..

Slaughterhouse is doing wayyyy better than Wu-Tang, lyrically and quality albums IMO

Nigga STFU, you even heard the 'staten go hard mixtape'?? that mixtape shitted on joe's entire album and it aint even a main release.

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Who slapped Budden and when/why?

You can talk business study's all you want but fact - Budden disrespected Meth by saying he is irrelevant but Budden's group sold much less than Meth and Red.

Fair enough that Budden did apologise to Meth for saying it but at the end of the day he put it out there. Independent vs major is a defunct argument because Budden strived to be on the very label that Meth has been on his whole career. I have heard all of Buddens catalogue and his def jam album shows just how he compromised (compared to his other albums/mixtapes/material) so saying Def Jam vs other labels is an argument is bullshit.

Meth (and Red too) has faced that pressure all his career but Budden only faced it for one album and folded. That says alot about this whole '18k on independent is better than BO2 on major label sales' just doesn't hold weight. Major labels recruits major rappers and Budden wanted to be one of them. For his fans to now turn around and say thats a bad thing is just pure bitterness.

The beats on slaughterhouse are straight booty, making the shit unlistenable to me. Fuck em.

Really, Fermi?.. Staten Go Hard mixtape over Padded Room? VERSE for VERSE? How often do you see people relating to Raekwon more than Joe Budden? If people had to select between these two' catalogues to live with the rest of their lives, I can almost PROMISE more people are gonna choose Joe Budden. Why? Because he's more versatile and touches more topics. OB4CL2 has been waited on for like forever, meanwhile, Joe Budden is hardly disappointing with his recent releases. Deny the fact all you want. Go through most topics about Raekwon's recent single releases and you'll see LOADS of negative feedback. Some people dont even care about that album anymore because they're hearing weak material. IMO.. this whole discussion is biased. Its on a Wu-Tang website, so people here are gonna feel some kind of way. These fans are gonna wanna believe that Raekwon is still the same Chef from over 10 years ago. NOBODY UP HERE would be talking wreckless if it was a supergroup like Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Kool G Rap and Masta Ace.. and G Rap being the nigga that got punched in the face. More of you wouldn't be supportive of Wu afterward and would've seen it the same way.. like.. how Raekwon is the "LEGEND" in this case.. G Rap being more the "LEGEND" in that case would've had a case-load of you dickridin G Rap and saying "Fuck Raekwon" right now..

It took ONE PERSONAL opinion to make thousands of fans hate ONE MAN thats ALWAYS speaking his mind, whether people like it or not.. thats sad!! All Meth and Joe had to do was collab and see who outshined who, let the listeners decide.


Explain to me how Slaughterhouse isnt doing better than Wu-Tang Clan TODAY? Lets not confuse the 93 - 97 Wu-Tang for the modern Wu-Tang. Chamber Music was dope but line for line, not quite with the Slaughterhouse debut.

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Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah

VERSE for VERSE? How often do you see people relating to Raekwon more than Joe Budden? If people had to select between these two' catalogues to live with the rest of their lives, I can almost PROMISE more people are gonna choose Joe Budden. Why? Because he's more versatile and touches more topics. .

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ah smell PUSSSaaaaaYYYYYY!


read the title dickscrunch, ONLY BUILT FOR CUBAN LINX NIGGAZ WHO HOLD WEIGHT

He doesnt fuckgin WANT to "emotional connect" with a pussy emo faggot like you!!

and when i want music i can "emotionally connect" with, im certainly not gonna pick fucking JOE BUDDEN's clown ass to do it with.

i cant believe the amount of effort some faggots will put in to defending wack niggas!!!

i didnt ride out like that for rappers i idolized when i was a lil dude!!!

pathetic!!!!

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Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED

ah smell PUSSSaaaaaYYYYYY!


read the title dickscrunch, ONLY BUILT FOR CUBAN LINX NIGGAZ WHO HOLD WEIGHT

He doesnt fuckgin WANT to "emotional connect" with a pussy emo faggot like you!!

and when i want music i can "emotionally connect" with, im certainly not gonna pick fucking JOE BUDDEN's clown ass to do it with.

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It doesn't have to be "emotional connect".. that album was a STREET/WORLD classic album. Im not surprised YOU'RE trying to make a case, most of the threads you're involved in, you RARELY make sense and get the point across.. which is why you feel the need to call others "faggot" about everything.. its the iNet, B.. stop catching feelings lol.. damnn.

ITS ... ONLY... OPINIONS! If Raekwon is the better lyricist in your eyes, so be it.. lol..

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Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah

It doesn't have to be "emotional connect".. that album was a STREET/WORLD classic album. Im not surprised YOU'RE trying to make a case, most of the threads you're involved in, you RARELY make sense and get the point across.. which is why you feel the need to call others "faggot" about everything.. its the iNet, B.. stop catching feelings lol.. damnn.

ITS ... ONLY... OPINIONS! If Raekwon is the better lyricist in your eyes, so be it.. lol..

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Coming from a person such as yourself that makes the type of beats you make, no offense or disrespect intended, you should be laughing at this slaughterhouse shit.

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Originally Posted by DRUNKENDRAGON

Coming from a person such as yourself that makes the type of beats you make, no offense or disrespect intended, you should be laughing at this slaughterhouse shit.

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Comparing them to Wu-Tang in general, it's a MASSIVE joke to me.. lmao.. the beef. the fans ridiculous statements. etc.. all Im saying is that, lyrically.. until the next Wu album.. Slaughterhouse outdid them compared to Chamber Music.. people are not taking heed.. I never said Slaughterhouse is GREATER but the better team as for modern time, jus weak beats on the album (nobody can deny that).