you notice eye ain't even replying to you
cuz you a fuckin hack
and not a successfull hack
you a internet message board hack
get a fuckin life
your parents really did a shitty job
raising you
you drop knothing worthwhile
its all hate from you
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Words from an ACTUALY Cuban, from the time
source http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg2Quote:
I feel that I have to intervene here.
I was six years old in 1959 living in a small town in what was then the Pinar de Rio providence of Cuba. Today that town is in Habana Campo. Of course at that age I did not have an understanding of the chaos and events going on around me. Violence had not really touched the western Providences the way they had affected the eastern Providences from where the barbudos had marched down from the Sierra Maestra. I remember my father's euphoric enthusiasm and hope for Cuba's future when Batista fled. I remember him wearing his red and black armband with the number 26 on it. I remember also my mothers sarcasm at the new leader of Cuba and her criticism of my father for being a Castro supporter. That euphoric enthusiasm slowly turned to disappointment as the summary executions became a regular event in Cuba mainly revealed through rumors and unoffial then official reports. First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power. That was the final event that turned my father against the new Castro government. My mother could not help that I told you so. I remember my uncles and grandfather being picked up and detained for no reason other than suspicion for being counter-revolutionaries, which they weren't. They were opposed to the new regime, but that was grounds for suspicion. I remember the vigils of my mother, my aunts and grandmother at the notorious Guanajay prison trying to get word on their men, brothers, husbands and sons. Later one of those uncles would do 2 tours in the Cuban adventure in Angola. A total of 4 years in the African jungles. I remember in the early 60's right before the missile crises as my father was forced to dig huge trenches. I'm still not sure what they were for. I remember the blackouts in the middle of the night and how my house trembled. How my father and I peeked out the window and we saw large tread-ed vehicles with canopies covering something cylindrical as cargo. My sister and I were sent to Habana were it as safer. But were does Guevara come in? Guevara tied all of this together and I came to realize this later. My father took me one afternoon to the Malecon. The iconic walk along the shores of Habana Harbour. On the other side of the harbour is the famous Morro Castle with it's iconic lighthouse built during colonial times. Adjacent to it was La Cabana, an old Spanish presidio or prison. I remember my father asking me to be quiet and to let him listen as we stood there on the Malecon. I listened too. I could hear a distant cracking sound. I knew he heard too. I asked what the cracking sound was, I didn't get an answer. Later when I was older I realized that the cracking sound was the firing squad ending men's lives. Some of them as young as 18 years old. Today an 18 year old to me is more a child than a man. Guevara was the head of the revolutionary tribunals that was handing down these death sentences. He was a one man judge and jury and appeals panel all wrapped into one. He had the final word on these men's lives. He personally sentenced over 800 men to their deaths. The overwhelming majority, if not all, summarily executed on political grounds. Not for criminal offenses. Guevara was a mass murderer. A violator of the most basic human right, the right to life. For whom he was, I could not imagine a more fitting end for him in the mountains of Bolivia. He deserved his end, in some ways it was poetic justice. Some people are such a plague on humanity that it is better that they don't exist. Guevara was one of those people. He died like the animal that he was.
As for the admiration I see many have for Guevara I like to subscribe to Jose Marti philosophy on this, "sin patria pero sin amo".
Your a victim of the power of image.
I'll tell you again, as your so obsessed by it
His qoutes are posted on racist sites, because he was a racist. Why are you so heated about the fact?
these same qoutes are posted all over the web, I copy and pasted mine from Yahoo answers.
http://bastarduniverse.blogspot.com/...-and-anti.html
black pride website
http://boards.brownpride.com/showthr...ist-54670.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg1
Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world.
I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him.
Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)
eye notice you didn't address any
of the inconsistencies in those
quotes you dropped
well the quotes your right wing
news sources dropped
silence on that from Mr. Franchfries....ok
but thats no big suprise...this goose
is almost cooked!!!!
"First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power."
cee franchfries.....cee this is why eye loves the universe
you start a thread that states that Che is loved
mainly by middle class white youth
yet the only person who agree's with you
is a person who says he's a thugged
out hardcore brooks brothers wearing
caucasian suburbanite....lol
and no....dany fubu isn't a person..he's a animal
theres unceen forces making you look like
a fuckin tool
Camilo died in a plane crash true.......but
the person who wrote this little bullshit
expose is obviously biased and telling
lies from the get go.....when Camillo
dissappeared Che personally searched
for days and days.....anyone who says
Fidel had something to do with
Camillo's murder is SUSPECT
Since the USA had committed
over 2000 acts of terrorism against
Cuba from 1959-1963 it would be
safe to say Camillo was killed by the CIA
how many Cubans died from USA
terrorism?
the true history is that Fidel needed
Che and Camillo to keep things from
getting corrupt...not the other way
around as you devils claim
"That was the final event that turned my father against the new Castro government. My mother could not help that I told you so."
huh?????? Camillo getting murdered by the CIA
was the last straw against Castro.....huh?????
"I remember my uncles and grandfather being picked up and detained for no reason other than suspicion for being counter-revolutionaries, which they weren't. They were opposed to the new regime, but that was grounds for suspicion."
welll.....the gusano writer of this bullshit expose
is claiming Fidel killed Camillo????
damn eye understand why Castro detained these people
good work Castro!!!!!! lock up those liars
"I remember the vigils of my mother, my aunts and grandmother at the notorious Guanajay prison trying to get word on their men, brothers, husbands and sons."
hey...you wanna spread lies and shit
making sum bullshit story about
how Fidel killed Camillo......
hey you deserve to get locked up
especially when your country is at
war against the great imperialist beast
the USA
"Later one of those uncles would do 2 tours in the Cuban adventure in Angola. A total of 4 years in the African jungles."
okay?
"I remember in the early 60's right before the missile crises as my father was forced to dig huge trenches. I'm still not sure what they were for."
LOL.....not sure what they are for????
this person is mad suspect...
oh eye fuckin wonder what a huge trench is
used for in war.....are you fuckin retarded??????
nobody ever dug a trench for war.....
om being sarchastic
Che guevara worked hard 7 days a week
doing all types of hard labor
including digging trenches
"I remember the blackouts in the middle of the night and how my house trembled."
yes USA was waging covert war against Cuba
"How my father and I peeked out the window and we saw large tread-ed vehicles with canopies covering something cylindrical as cargo. My sister and I were sent to Habana were it as safer."
oh my goodness!!!!!!
"But were does Guevara come in? Guevara tied all of this together and I came to realize this later. My father took me one afternoon to the Malecon. The iconic walk along the shores of Habana Harbour. On the other side of the harbour is the famous Morro Castle with it's iconic lighthouse built during colonial times. Adjacent to it was La Cabana, an old Spanish presidio or prison. I remember my father asking me to be quiet and to let him listen as we stood there on the Malecon. I listened too. I could hear a distant cracking sound. I knew he heard too. I asked what the cracking sound was, I didn't get an answer. Later when I was older I realized that the cracking sound was the firing squad ending men's lives. Some of them as young as 18 years old. Today an 18 year old to me is more a child than a man."
yup....Che killled a whole bunch of devils
good for him
if he didn't the Cuban people would have
hung these people in the streets
mobb violence
more reason for the USA to get support
for a invasion
"Guevara was the head of the revolutionary tribunals that was handing down these death sentences. He was a one man judge and jury and appeals panel all wrapped into one. He had the final word on these men's lives. He personally sentenced over 800 men to their deaths. The overwhelming majority, if not all, summarily executed on political grounds. Not for criminal offenses. Guevara was a mass murderer. A violator of the most basic human right, the right to life. For whom he was, I could not imagine a more fitting end for him in the mountains of Bolivia. He deserved his end, in some ways it was poetic justice. Some people are such a plague on humanity that it is better that they don't exist. Guevara was one of those people. He died like the animal that he was. "
yes eye can cee why this writer of this
bullshit expose hates che
he wasn't mass murderer....if he was
the entire Island of Cuba wouldn't have
loved him so
"Your a victim of the power of image."
you are a victim of the white mans
dick in your ass
"I'll tell you again, as your so obsessed by it"
huh?
"His qoutes are posted on racist sites, because he was a racist. Why are you so heated about the fact?"
nooooo......YOU are posting shit that comes straight
from right wingers and racists.....don't try
and confuse shit
"these same qoutes are posted all over the web, I copy and pasted mine from Yahoo answers."
om sure you did you no book readin motherfucker
"Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world."
you love exploitation....shut da fuck up
your mask is off Mr. Thugged out Caucasian
"I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him."
you wouldn't find a Che picture in
a uncle tom ass bone thugs video
you would find them with a 40 ounce
singing in a style similar to freestyle
fellowship
"Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)"
you are a Right Winger at Wu Tang website
somethings not adding up here
"First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power."
consolidated power?
cee the universe is soooo magical
how you just making yourself look so
idiotic
Fidel was el Comandante from the go get
when Che, Camillo, Fidel and em hopped on
da Granma in Fifty Six.....Fidel was the H-N-I-C
Che was a medic
Camillo joined up with Fidel
do you know whut HNIC means?
pshhhhhhhh......Consolidated power?
huh?
what a bunch of mischief makers
like eye said all ruthlessness aside
who's gonna protect Tupac's aunt?
will Las Vegas protect Tupac's aunt
eternal praises is due to the black GOd Allah
and Jah Rastafari!!!!!
and thank you for
allowing me to smite some of thee with
da mighty e-sword
Lol Wu Tang is all about capitalistic exploitation of the workers. They're making music about killing shit and making money to sell it to you to make money. Get your head right. Capitalism is the only thing that's real bro.
Will you at least tell me about who you are? I've told you about myself. I'm a white middle class American teen living in New Hampshire. I have a centrist conservative belief system which doesn't glorify communists, liars, or killers. I've discussed this shit with other posters, you can't sway me because I'm right.
Who are you? Some young black guy in the inner city using a public library because he's poor to get out the message? I doubt it. Some young asian kid in the suburbs talking big about communism because even though your parents fled communism to give you the benefits of capitalism and a land of opportunity you want to be a rebel? Or a white guy in the same position as me talking big about politics you don't understand because you did poorly in school, don't have any legitimate sexual relations to speak of, dress two social brackets below your income because you're "keeping it real", and hate your own country because you're a fuck who found out his parents were going to abort him but didn't have the heart to and have regretted it ever since.
Or are you some foreigner who worships american culture and hates our government because its in vogue even though they're all the same big piece of american apple pie?
Method Man: Get Him!
"Lol Wu Tang is all about capitalistic exploitation of the workers. They're making music about killing shit and making money to sell it to you to make money. Get your head right. Capitalism is the only thing that's real bro."
wu tang is for the children....how dare you
"Will you at least tell me about who you are? I've told you about myself. I'm a white middle class American teen living in New Hampshire. I have a centrist conservative belief system which doesn't glorify communists, liars, or killers. I've discussed this shit with other posters, you can't sway me because I'm right."
why you telling me your life story son?
"Who are you? Some young black guy in the inner city using a public library because he's poor to get out the message? I doubt it. Some young asian kid in the suburbs talking big about communism because even though your parents fled communism to give you the benefits of capitalism and a land of opportunity you want to be a rebel? Or a white guy in the same position as me talking big about politics you don't understand because you did poorly in school, don't have any legitimate sexual relations to speak of, dress two social brackets below your income because you're "keeping it real", and hate your own country because you're a fuck who found out his parents were going to abort him but didn't have the heart to and have regretted it ever since."
ummm...you should be asking the topic starter
all this
because his original claim was that da great
ernesto che was most loved by middle class and rich
whites
as he put it
and now your stupid ass for sum reason
made franchfries
looked even more WRONG
when you just revealed whut you
revealed....lol
and now..since know cee injected his
poison in YOUR psychic shell
now the poison is working its way
you feel it
and in a last minute attempt
before the goose is cooked like
goose in mad max
you get on sum dani fubu shit
"Or are you some foreigner who worships american culture and hates our government because its in vogue even though they're all the same big piece of american apple pie?"
listen here dipshit
the constitution says
if eye may paraphraze
to protect
north america
from enemies foriegn
and domestic
bohemian grove is calling you
HNIC Fidel on videotape said
Lee hArvey could never have done
that shooting job
with such a shitty old weapon
and since Fidel used a Sniper Rifle
from 56-59 eye would say
he knows what he talking about
Fidel is more of a Patriot
to USA citizens
then its own government is
Fidel killed Camillo
its 12 05 the next day noonish
and om still buzzing from
hearing that nonsense yesterday
and it 2thousand and mothafuckin 10
now a tiny little Island country doing battle
with the great atom bomb dropping beast
if Fidel let slanderers roam free
who da fuck would protect Assata?
“I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” – from the U.S. military officer oath
Not the Constitution, and not what you think it is. What it says is that the Military is legally obligated to follow the Constitution rather then any political body. It means that the Military not only has the authority to topple the government in the interest of the people if a threat to constitutional rule (such as a Dictator) but has an obligation to do so and in doing so return America to its Democracy.
Also what are you talking about, Oswald was a Marine Sniper, you don't get a much better shot, armed with a military grade Italian rifle with a scope. Trying to hit a slow moving car from a building overlooking the path of the car. I don't think it's that hard for that to work out, especially since he missed a bit. Castro may have been a sniper, but he was a Cuban Rebel sniper. Theres a world of difference between Oswald and Fidel.
As a side note, I would not want a Sniper in control of a government. You realize that Snipers are the most intimate killers in the military? Its not like a normal soldier when it's killed or be killed be it in a gunfight or a knife fight its life or death. But a Sniper is out of that danger and has the free choice to kill or not kill. The fact they can kill in that circumstance makes them dangerous men. They're executioners, not regular soldiers. I don't hate them for that, but they'd tend to be the "ends justifies the means" type of mindset as a result of their work. If you can pull the trigger like that to save your own men's lives you'll have no qualm in ending some "enemies" lives to protect your plans.
Get Him!
"Not the Constitution, and not what you think it is. What it says is that the Military is legally obligated to follow the Constitution rather then any political body. It means that the Military not only has the authority to topple the government in the interest of the people if a threat to constitutional rule (such as a Dictator) but has an obligation to do so and in doing so return America to its Democracy."
uhhuh
"Also what are you talking about, Oswald was a Marine Sniper, you don't get a much better shot, armed with a military grade Italian rifle with a scope. Trying to hit a slow moving car from a building overlooking the path of the car. I don't think it's that hard for that to work out, especially since he missed a bit. Castro may have been a sniper, but he was a Cuban Rebel sniper. Theres a world of difference between Oswald and Fidel."
yeah
also there was a tree with leaves in the way beetween
a shot from the 6th floor depository
and the motorcade
the first shot would be the best shot
manual action bolt
shitty weapon
and all the people on the grassy knowl was
running up to the picket fence
the opposite direction
of the texas book depository
also Lee Harvey was trained in Russian
in the Marines
what do you think that means?
what Marine gets trained in Russian?
from 61-63
why was Oswald ceen
hangingout in the heart of
the intelligence community
with the most rabid anti
castro cuban faggots you eva seen?
"As a side note, I would not want a Sniper in control of a government. You realize that Snipers are the most intimate killers in the military? Its not like a normal soldier when it's killed or be killed be it in a gunfight or a knife fight its life or death. But a Sniper is out of that danger and has the free choice to kill or not kill. The fact they can kill in that circumstance makes them dangerous men. They're executioners, not regular soldiers. I don't hate them for that, but they'd tend to be the "ends justifies the means" type of mindset as a result of their work. If you can pull the trigger like that to save your own men's lives you'll have no qualm in ending some "enemies" lives to protect your plann?
uh ...you love expoitation and oppression ....
eye know what you want