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Deep meditation reconnects one with the cosmic dimension, and links them back into the chain of consicousness, people who's life revolves around dancing with the stars and saturday night television will never reach this plane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumm Ra
Concsiousness has defenitley evolved and still is, check my union of human concsiousness thread and drop your thoughts...
Are all sourced back to conciosuness, Instinct is the only thing we need to survive, conciosuness is there for some reason and as i said before i believe it has nothing to so with survival because thats instincts job which is still as active as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Read human instinct by Dr Winston.
It's so funny watching people get into semantic arguments over things they can't possibly prove. It's a glaring example of how idiotic humanity truly is.
Were trying to build on something that even has scientists stumped, there is no clear defintion, so a bit of harmless speculation is not going to hurt nobody.
I would argue just the opposite, that harmless speculation has murdered hundreds of millions of people.
So you should probably stay away from this thread then, you may get murdered.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Maybe that's the reason you offered nothing when you entered, except negative counter-productive nonsense.
HETEPU
lol judging by brocks logic this thread is the text version of the virigina tech massacre..Quote:
Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon
Why is what I'm saying counterproductive, and how is it nonsense? This whole thread is counterproductive, it seems like I'm the only one with a rational opinion. Go ahead and believe in magic, and supernatural occurrences if it suits you. My point is you can't prove any of it, and shouting louder or pointing fingers at me for your idiotic beliefs won't make any of it less ridiculous. You are stupid. Period. Yea, I'm the one being nonsensical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon
Supernatural occurences?
We are taking about concisouness it's source, origin and purpose and it's vital role in the concept of the spirit and afterlife if there is one.
You said a mouthful without even trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHALLAH JUSTICE
None of us are claiming to know the truth, just speculating, philosophizing, giving our view.
Nothing is concrete, forms constantly change.
so right there you're saying the "cosmic consciousness" is always there, but people choose not to link up with it, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by SHALLAH JUSTICE
that would mean "consciousness" in itself never really changed (its always there, regardless) but people just fail to "tune in" to what's already there.
if you replace the word "consciousness" with "thought" then I could maybe build and agree with you, but my definition of consciousness is completely different
if you define it as "what you know" then I guess humans are the only conscious thing in the universe? you're saying all animals are unconscious? the universe is not conscious?
an electron knowing how to spin around a nucleus is not conscious?
"what we know" indicates matter and energy being utilized, and I don't see consciousness as being either - on the contrary - matter and energy utilize consciousness to bring forth their respective qualities.
but then you go on to say
which is a completely different definition from your first oneQuote:
as consciousness is the fabric of space and time, it is not a object a action or process it is the essence of our spirt
actually it's about the complete opposite meaning of your first definition so it makes it really hard for me to follow that entire post - it'd take me like 200 lines of text to reply to all that i disagree with in it
Your bringing your beef with me into KTL trying to make me out like a hypocrite, that's not a good look man, not a good look at all.
What i'm trying to say is that consciousness is the essence of sentient life, the hindu's believe the highest form of consciousness a human can attain is being part of the universe itself, formless but more aware then ever, the universe is conscious of itself, therefore it is the only true manifestation of god - the living universe.
We are part of this living universe, this cosmic consciousness we just experience it subjectively, like fox said different streams leading to one great river.
When i say meditation reconnects people to the "network" i mean the people who have forsaken awareness aka the people who look forward to saturday TV read gossip magazines about celebrities etc etc.
Reagrding the rest of your post, you have lost the direction i was taking and took what i was saying in a totaly different way...
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
It's counterproductive to this thread for obvious reasons and it's nonsense because you came in here calling people idiotic for discussing topics that you think aren't worth being discussed. If you don't think they're worth being discussed then stay outta the thread. It doesn't make any sense for a rational minded person as you claim yourself to be to come into a discussion to tell people they're idiots for discussing it.
Who the hell said anything about magic and supernatural occurrences? I certainly didn't. I was discussing consciousness and evolution, or do you believe those to be magical and supernatural as well? Did you even read the through the thread or did you just read the title, conjure up your own ideas of what people were probably discussing and then decide to reply to your own assumptions, because there is little in here about magic and the supernatural if any at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Shouting louder and pointing fingers at you for my idiotic beliefs? You have no idea what I believe and last time I checked no one invited you in or mentioned your name in this thread. So who is shouting and pointing fingers at you? If you entered a discussion in the real world by telling the group they were idiotic for discussing what they were discussing wouldn't you expect to get told to fuck off? What the difference here?Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Lol...You are stupid? Nice ...oh rational minded one.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
HETEPU
what? i was just addressing what i read as i understood itQuote:
Originally Posted by SHALLAH JUSTICE
maybe i was wrong maybe i wasn't - either way your paranoia is not necessary
I thought I was being quite civil about it (as I always am in KTL)