Can anybody explain the 'blackman is god' religion to me?

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Originally Posted by FMJ

This question is irrelevant to what the thread is about.






Why do you ask this?



No. Islam did not take words, twist their meanings, and attribute the names of the supreme being to man.





What are you getting at?



No. Those stories are universal. They main point of the story got around to many peoples and it's overal message was not perverted.

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lol yeah ok man

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
The entire thing is crap. The first humans were dark skinned. That's about where the facts end and the CULT begins.

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how does that make you feel ?

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gifA lil upset I'll be honest.

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No it doesn't it sharpens my judgement. My judgement is based on my ability to observe and understand. Not liking what I see doesn't limit my ability to see. It just means I'm more likely to be biased against it then biased for it, not that a bias must exist.

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you not liking what you see may cause you to disregard truth coming from what you don't like looking at

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Black people are equal and it's a racial inferiority complex that keeps you down.

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are you saying that i deeply believe that white people are superior to me ?

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That inferiority complex is the fault of the events of slavery. I'm just curious why in other countries throughout history slaves didn't have that same inferiority complex centuries afterward. Maybe it's that American slavery was that much worse, but I still find it bizarre.

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your curiosity, if sincere, will lead you to answers




Who is the Original Man ?

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The Asiatic (Eastern) Black man... Which means an East African. Which is correct I think we came into being in Africa. And let's say his name was Adam. Adam the Asiatic Black Man. No problem there. I fully believe that mankind is natural black skinned and that the other races are adaptations, neither superior or inferior, simply more adept in their climate.

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wrong

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no, all religions are at the root by and large fictional or at least can be presumed by the evidence to be by and large fictional, the question is how much truth can we find about how we think in them, not how much truth there is in their accounts

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and your suddenly made up religion would fit in line with those



we are not a religion




this is another way for saying that he was smart for a nigger

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It's another way of saying he had a bright future, but got mixed up with the wrong crowd and they killed him before he was able to do anything important. He was a powerful speaker, an intellectual, and I honestly like him when I hear him speak, but he was preaching nonsense and when he finally started breaking out of the shell of the doctrine they gunned him down in front of 400 people.

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he was one of us

when he spoke we felt his pain


you don't


this is why you consider him an idiot

you are from the other side
not cause your white

because you just are

and nothing i say can alter your road



what the movie "2 Turntables and a Mic"


there are allot of things i can say about the murder based of the very limited knowledge i have of him - i was a fan - but after listening to his family speak about the situation, there is so much more i don't know - image me in that movie speaking about the situation in the face of those who know whats up

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

Why do we have to be uplifting our own? Why can't we all uplift each other?

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because that's not a reality

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

I don't have a problem with black people,

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yes you do

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

I have a problem with the system you support.

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there's a system that i'm supporting ?

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

It's like how the News keeps saying how the Tea Party Movement are all racists. That's not true.

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not once in my life have i turned on the news i heard them talking about the tea party

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

There are a lot of racists in the Tea Party Movement sure. Of course there would be. There are always racists in everything. (On whatever it's name is, the Nazi forum something Storm Front or other they were discussing how they could hijack the movement...) But when you have a middle upper class white movement in this country it's suddenly shocking because that's the "majority" being incomplacent.

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huh ?

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

It's amazing that a segment of blacks are so damaged that they see any disagreement as a sign of racist intent.

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that's how it is - a white man can't have a bad day around black peoples without us labeling him a racist - lol - i'm like paul mooney - that shit is funny to me - but since i know this, i watch my steps and my out look - when i can - but you clearly got a problem with black folk -

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

If I call you an Idiot it's not because you're black it's because you're not being reasonable.

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that's what you'd tell yourself to convince yourself that you are not a racist while you're out front

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

The racism is coming because we've got a culture perpetuating negative stereotypes and a false notion we're separate species or something. It's totally insane and it bugs me that I look at black people as black people instead of people like I do when I see white people. I am subconsciously classifying them as something different because our culture told me to. But that doesn't mean I think of them as lesser. Just that I see them as different. But because we see a difference it's not so hard to think that.

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because there are obvious differences - lieing to yourself about that will not make the situation better - it is what it is - it's been beyond a race thing - but some of humanity are slow learners, so we throw tomatoes under their feet

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The first humans were dark skinned.

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Based on what exactly?

@ Sunny : Malcolm X was the man who made the greatest impact on the dialogue between the races in the USA and he was muslim (the teachings of islam guided him into that peaceful way to solve problems), he influenced Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Do you think the great Ali, one of the smartest figures of the century who had these great positions, not enough smart to follow the truth ?

Alot of 5%ers embraces Islam once they study it (through the 5% teachings) but never heard about a muslim turnin into a 5%er. Islam is universal and encourage people to open themselves to others, while the 5% ideology is sectarian and tend more to close and keep people between themselves.

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Originally Posted by Hellspawn

@ Sunny : Malcolm X was the man who made the greatest impact on the dialogue between the races in the USA and he was muslim (the teachings of islam guided him into that peaceful way to solve problems), he influenced Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Do you think the great Ali, one of the smartest figures of the century who had these great positions, not enough smart to follow the truth ?

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Malcolm X was the man that Elijah Muhammad cleaned up, stood up,and instructed to deliver the greatest impact on the dialogue between the races in the USA - his anger and disappointment lead him astray and he then made poor choices


Muhammad Ali was a Great Minister in the NOI - he became great when he joined the NOI - shook the world, made poor choices later on and went astray -


i know what a person who has left the ranks and went astray looks and sounds like - the person going astray usually doesn't realize how far they fell, and outsiders (like yourself) usually has no idea of what to look and listen for

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Originally Posted by Hellspawn

Alot of 5%ers embraces Islam once they study it (through the 5% teachings) but never heard about a muslim turnin into a 5%er.

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there is one i know who decided to join the church
people make choices - Islam is the fastest growing religion in this world because of US - you ever think about that ?
the NOI and NGE make the Islam you speak of popular - Hip Hop in the states have made Islam popular all over the world - you will never ever convince me otherwise with your words - i've been in this too long

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Originally Posted by Hellspawn

Islam is universal and encourage people to open themselves to others,

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open the flood gates then
so open, that american soldiers are on the holy land right now fuckin it up
that's how wide and open it is - had yall known the true shaytan, yall wouldn't have openly let him in

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Originally Posted by Hellspawn

while the 5% ideology is sectarian and tend more to close and keep people between themselves.

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we have to heal ourselves - everyone we went to and go to, shits on us - no one came to help the black man in america - yall came to america and made money at the same time poisoning us - the Muslims that follow the Islam you speak of come to america and sell out - because they have no idea of who the real shaytan is - you keep looking for a bad energy midst, while the true and living devil is stomping all over the holy land - you feel strongly about your belief though - so what we don't accept everyone into our home -

This is why we can't have intelligent debate in the KTL.

You're in what amounts to a cult. Everyone else knows it's not legit and you won't listen.

Thus nothing anyone says will work for you.

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

This is why we can't have intelligent debate in the KTL.

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there are many good debates going on

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

You're in what amounts to a cult. Everyone else knows it's not legit and you won't listen.

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the people you speak of never been to a Mosque in their life, they don't know any NOI members, most are white and would have a problem with Student Enrollment Answer # 1

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

Thus nothing anyone says will work for you.

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are you saying that instead of listening to and following the instructions of Minister Farrakhan, who is known and respected around this globe, who has a track record for cleaning us up and making us productive people...etc....
i should listen to and follow TheBoarzHeadBoy - and since i refuse to accept what TheBoarzHeadBoy is saying, debates in KTL don't work -

it won't work for me why ?

if i say fuck the NOI and i start listening to TheBoarzHeadBoy, then it'll work for me huh ?

maybe me telling you that the NOI is not all i have will help you to see me as not being limited to the NOI

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are you saying that instead of listening to and following the instructions of Minister Farrakhan, who is known and respected around this globe, who has a track record for cleaning us up and making us productive people...etc....
i should listen to and follow TheBoarzHeadBoy -

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haha

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Based on what exactly?

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^ would anyone like me to find the science on this and post it?

who else has heard of Professor Leakey?

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Originally Posted by Hellspawn

@ Sunny : Malcolm X was the man who made the greatest impact on the dialogue between the races in the USA and he was muslim (the teachings of islam guided him into that peaceful way to solve problems), he influenced Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Do you think the great Ali, one of the smartest figures of the century who had these great positions, not enough smart to follow the truth ?

Alot of 5%ers embraces Islam once they study it (through the 5% teachings) but never heard about a muslim turnin into a 5%er. Islam is universal and encourage people to open themselves to others, while the 5% ideology is sectarian and tend more to close and keep people between themselves.

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Peace Hellspawn, I feel what you are saying. There is sum truth to your last comment. But, I would encourage you to go to Harlem and visit the NGE Allah's Universal Development Center and have this dialogue with some of the Gods & Earths there, you might have a very good understanding of things after a good mind to mind discussion where your views of 5% sectarianism are concerned.

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Originally Posted by food for thought

haha

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word this one had me dying too

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

there are many good debates going on

Good and intelligent are different. There's plenty of good debate, and very limited amounts of intelligent debate. But I'll concede I'd rather have a fun debate then a smart one.

the people you speak of never been to a Mosque in their life, they don't know any NOI members, most are white and would have a problem with Student Enrollment Answer # 1


BUT IT'S NOT A REAL MOSQUE... That's like calling a Scientology building a legit Temple... or saying the Branch Davidian compound is a church or something.


are you saying that instead of listening to and following the instructions of Minister Farrakhan, who is known and respected around this globe, who has a track record for cleaning us up and making us productive people...etc....
i should listen to and follow TheBoarzHeadBoy - and since i refuse to accept what TheBoarzHeadBoy is saying, debates in KTL don't work -

it won't work for me why ?

if i say fuck the NOI and i start listening to TheBoarzHeadBoy, then it'll work for me huh ?

maybe me telling you that the NOI is not all i have will help you to see me as not being limited to the NOI

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By why have them at all? Why not just say I'm a proud African American Muslim. That's like the most legit thing. I can't knock someone for being black and I can't knock them for Islam because it's on the same level of respect as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. But the NOI seems pretty shady.

But you should listen to me once I publish my religious guide. I'll be making LR Hubbard money and building Temples on every block.

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

But the NOI seems pretty shady.

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but we ain't did shit to you

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

But you should listen to me once I publish my religious guide. I'll be making LR Hubbard money and building Temples on every block.

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do your thing yo


people said that jesus was shady and accused him of working for the devil

muhammad was looked at as a blasphemer by christians no ?

nat turner was considered a criminal and they killed him

ghandi had enemies

shit

bob marley had enemies, he got shot - why would anyone wanna shoot bob marley ?

cause people are stupid that's why

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

there is one i know who decided to join the church
people make choices - Islam is the fastest growing religion in this world because of US - you ever think about that ?
the NOI and NGE make the Islam you speak of popular - Hip Hop in the states have made Islam popular all over the world - you will never ever convince me otherwise with your words - i've been in this too long

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I feel you. I could tell a story on how I came to Islam. It was a long journey and not a simple one. It started years before officially taking the shahadah and joining traditional Islam. Malcolm played a role in this.

hahahahah.

Yes, noi, 5%, etc. plays major roles in introducing people to Islamic terminology and concepts. Rappers play a big role.

i think - God left truth everywhere so that no matter who you are or where you come from, or who introduced you to it there was a way to get to him. All praises due.