^Do you really believe Trump will get the Republican Nomination? The party dislikes him. No way Trump'll be able to force their hand.
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^Do you really believe Trump will get the Republican Nomination? The party dislikes him. No way Trump'll be able to force their hand.
The neoliberalism is misguided. It throws taxpayer money at "social issues" and thinks that will make it all better. It's insanity.
And when you go against this way of thinking out Come the "racism" slurs and the blame "anglophone" policy BS.
Millenials problem is that if its not easy, or can be done from their laptop or iPad, they give up. Most of them have never really worked a blue collar job in their life. They're so used to things getting done for them they have no idea the energy or resources it takes.
I don't necessarily like Trump and indefinitely despise Cruz, but Hillary is a flat out crook and Sanders, while he says things that make sense, has the possibility to dig us into a deeper rut.
Although what he says about people like the Waltons is absolutely true. Walmart workers recieving subsidies and food stamps, basically corporate welfare... That a travesty.
But that's the high cost of buying low. Do you really save money at Walmart? A dozen Nikr PD soft golf balls is the same there as it is at Dicks or Golf Galaxy.
It had to be rough on Daryl as an African immigrant in the middle of the corn fed raw boned middle American white boy Bible Belt.
But I hear cornhusker fans are the most hospitable in the country.
Be happy you ain't from Mississippi.
yawn
I notice that all the white boys are getting brolic since Trump started in. It hasnt been this bad since 300 came out.
This country is controlled by the media and the wealthy corporate in the top 1%. And we pretty much have no privacy thanks to the stupid patriot act and are piece of shit government.
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I don't even wanna think about what Trump is gonna have the army do if he becomes President. he seems like the kind of guy to make rash decisions based on emotions. I see him overreacting to a perceived insult from another country in an over the top way
The presidency is not a dictatorship.
Republicans don't even really like him because he's not part of the establishment, if he is a loon they will impeach his ass.
The fear people have if this guy is absolutely hilarious.
the dictatorship remark was a good point. I see what both of you mean
what I feel is that I don't think Trump's own party will be able to put some sense into him if need be once he's in charge
I don't trust the republican party in holding back its president if he goes Rambo II on another nation after they rub him the wrong way or if he thinks it might earn him a second term (think Thatcher in the UK). I really doubt his own party would impeach him, it's like they would concede they had been in the wrong all along but only now were willing to do something about it. I don't see how they could sell this strategy to their advantage come the next election period
the republicans can't even control Trump right now since he is profiling himself as anti-establishment (which in itself is a cruel joke of course). and seeing how republicans have a majority in senate and both houses of congress now you can't count on the democrats to hold Trump back either after the election. at least not for the first part of his term
I hope I'm wrong though. I don't want this scenario to happen lol
yeah, to add on, being a loon didn't get bush impeached or stop an Iraq war over false pretenses
In the US does declaring war on a country have to be put through congress first? My understanding is Trump just couldn't do what he wanted it a has to go through congress and the more even numbers between republican and democrat the harder it will be to pass stuff because usually they're opposed to each other?
Is this shit about Hillary exposing secret documents in the mainstream media at all? I can't believe anyone would vote for based off that alone but she's got the feminist vote and they're dumb cunts
A declaration of war has to be approved by congress but the president can take some limited action without it.
But to think that Trump is going to do whatever he wants at his whim with no opposition is absurd.
You obviously don't know anything about American politics. These morons can't agree on anything.
Trump is not this maniac the press is making him out to be. He's actually a more qualified executive than all of these people and the presidency is part of the executive branch. He's not a legislator or a judge.
I believe his business acumen and ability to enhance the economy through better trade agreements is real and the fact that he won't be some tip toeing my pushover is a benefit.
Highly liberal people and lifelong democrats will hate him because he's not on their team.
But the fact remains, he is not part of the establishment and they HATE that. Both sides. And he has no entanglements with campaign money.
This is why people like him. politicians are so corrupted that it's only making it easier for Trump.
Everything about Hillary is true. I have no idea how anyone in their right mind can give her their vote. She is pure scum.
Bernie is running at a bad time but is gaining momentum support because of the pro big government and free health and schools movement among young people.
The problem with that is that Obamacare is hated by people who can't afford healthcare regardless mainly because of the ridiculous penalty try hit you with at tax time.
Obamacare is not free. Lol. At least not if you work for a living.
Obama has managed to actually hurt the working and lower middle class, the people he said he was running for.
So Sanders has to deal with that.
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What you dont get is that the democrats are really no different from the republicans. Hillary is taking money from everything a "liberal" would consider unholy.
Trump and Bernie have been successful as outsiders because the American voter is well aware of the corruption and cronyism that has become rampant in government and it permeates both parties.
Trump is not going to plunge the world into destruction lol.
What is wrong with people.
I guess they are so used to a docile American president that it frightens them, I dunno.
His stance against Mexican ILLEGALS is totally within bounds and there isn't a place in the world that doesn't have problems with Islam extremism so that's well within bounds too.
Not sure why all the butt hurt.
He's crass at times yea, he needs to sit down and explain in depth his solutions but so do all of them.
Touch, Bush who is a business man left the country with negative growth and Obama who has never touched a business left the country with positive growth. The negative Bush under Bush' term was caused primarily buy business men as an act of business.
A successful business man is someone who's successful at making himself rich. That doesn't translate to someone who's able to govern a country and boost it's wealth. While I think the belief that presidents determine the economy is something we should stop humoring, the belief that 'a business man' will make a country rich the way he made himself rich is even less deserving of continued discussion. Making yourself rich is a different science than making a country rich
Kim Kardashian is by all measures a remarkable business woman. It doesn't mean she'll boost the US economy as president (not to say she won't either).
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Originally Posted by WARPATH
yeah see this is the issue. white males have gone from parking in two spots at the same time at walmart to voting based on some real beneath adult criteria.People actually believe that Trump's loudness and immaturity = strength and we NEED MAH STRONG. It's a very unfortunate inconvenience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olive Oil Goombah
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I remember telling my little brother about illuminati and he said 'what's wrong with them running the world, they're doing a good job' lol.
That very simple statement made me realize something. Lets say hilary is funded by all of wallstreet and trump isn't. So? Cronyism etc has been a part of the system since John Adams at least and frankly powerful interest have built a great country. Somebody being funded by small donations, or their own money, doesn't instantanously make them more democratic in disposition, more competent, more people focused, more truthful, or all around 'better' by any other rational metric.
We have this logically fallacy that's world wide and completely unquestioned that says that successful people are bad and unsuccessful people are noble. The idea is usually pitched by unsuccessful people, and this election has been classified by the assumption that the source of people's funding, or lack thereof, makes them good. Because if successful people put their support behind something they have to be doing it to satisfy their drive to be evil or against everyone else. Not being a part of the establishment doesn't make someone good or bad and shouldn't be a metric of judgement. Someone who's not 'in' or 'with' the establishment can not only act just like the establishment, but in fact do whatever it is that the establishment does which makes your feel that they're particularly bad people. Every hick and bammer in America, under this assumption would be a better 'leader' than people like Hilary, Romney, Obama etc.
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So what's your point?
They're all the same?
Basically they are.
I don't think if any of these four got elected there would be any major difference. Mainly because the President isn't the be all end all.
Which is why it's laughable at the fear Trump and your "emasculated white man" is instilling in minoritie and liberals.
And yes leadership, especially figurehead leadership is all about personality. The president has always been somewhat of a prop.
Charismatic speaking is what got Obama elected. If dude was up there like Ben Carson there would be a Mormon in office.
as a European I am mostly concerned with foreign policy when it comes to US elections. in recent history Bill Clinton & Obama have shown to me that Democrats tend to show some more restraint in going to war (as compared to Bush Jr & Sr). if I were able to vote I'd go for Sanders. Clinton is a liability. I mean how is she even still being allowed to run for president after having sent e-mails concerning official policy through an unprotected serverQuote:
Originally Posted by Olive Oil Goombah
I can agree with you on various points you make : these politicians have a hard time agreeing on anything so that could lower the risk of rash decisions. also for the US itself (policy within the US I mean) I don't think there would be that much of a difference between democrats & republicans
I think I would have a clearer view of Trump's skills if I could assess his accumen as a businessman. but I find that hard since I find his story confusing. he's highly successful but at the same time I can't really figure out whether his Chapter 11 reorganisations of 4 businesses over the years are the result of bad strategies or were actually smart decisions to get things going again. which is why I'm about to read this http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-bankruptcies/
one thing is for sure, Trump is big on selling easy truths, which doesn't instill much faith in me. I think it was only this week he finally explained his plans for health care. it had been a long time coming
your us of words like fear make more sense to me than the rest of the post which I didn't read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olive Oil Goombah
The issue at hand is a large swath of America is authoritarian and Trump appeals to that in them. I've lived in a country with authoritarian rule and one thing people make the mistake of thinking is authoritarian = strength.
There's a desire for a he-man muscly candidate and Trump is playing the game needed to convince otherwise weak people that he is 'strong' and 'powerful'. I watched swaths of Americans fawn over frauds like Putin under the propoganda that he's a muscly man and that he's strong. People like this aren't strong and their weakness inevitably destroys them and the things they're given responsibility over. What we're facing is the fact that Americans haven't witnessed how horrible it is to give governing authority to someone who prides themselves in not being cooperative. Someone who because he or she can't learn how things work, find it easier to uproot what's on the ground and act as if it's a blank slate they can start over with. What you're witnessing isn't strength or power but weak people won't see this.
It's weakness. It looks like weakness to anyone with perspective. The same people that thought Putin was a bad ass ass kicker who kicks ass have something loud and entertaining to draw them in the process. Unfortunately there's a lot of these people.
I like Bernie. Bernie's a strong leader.
when I read this I instantly thought of Reagan. doesn't seem like he made any of the important decisions himself (I read a biography a while back, so that's only one source of course - but still) but he could sure sell those decisions to the publicQuote:
Originally Posted by Olive Oil Goombah
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Originally Posted by Lee Towers
the email thing won't stick. What'll hurt hilary is she's generally unlikeable because she's very rational which translates to stiff and boring in action. Hilary won't be able to beat trump because she's not conditioned for out of the box campaigns and nonsense. She has a hard time hiding how she feels in her face and she's geniunely a bitch. I believe she would be harsher on America's enemies than anyone else running period. In a campaign I feel she would be too 'controlled' to be as candid and off cuff as this particular campaign demands her to be.
Which isn't what we need right now. We need to stick down as a country and get our priorities straight. The westphalian system has fallen apart and thinking of something beyond that is necessary because right now the US and west as a whole are stuck focusing an expensive and dangerous non-entities and America's commitment to protect this irrelevant world order makes us completely unable to manuever. The world moves too fast now and statelessness makes the old order cumbersome and wasteful.
America needs to focus on America. The economy is on an upswing and we can do a lot with the momentum like modernizing infrustructure. Obama is currently working on opening the country up more to foreign investment (it's almost impossible to bring a company into the US from somewhere else) which will lead to the economy exploding. If US companies don't want to stay in the US, there are 10 foreign companies to replace each one that's dying for a chance to manufacture, assembly or serve in the US.
but very few americans will ever understand this because we learn everything from TV and commercials. Hilary comes close, but she's not an out of the box thinker. Idk Sander's foreign policy objectives but i hope it's not even a focus for him because who cares.
i actually agree with all of TSAs points for a change
lol, that was my exact thought when I saw the video of her telling that kid she should run for office or whatever. Her face does absolutely nothing to hide the unabashed bitchiness running through her veinsQuote:
She has a hard time hiding how she feels in her face and she's geniunely a bitch.
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Originally Posted by TSA
Well then thanks for reading the whole thing because I waited until the final sentence.
And these aren't Nigerians. These are spoiled Americans.
huh?
I guess I would have to read your post to get the context of the last statement.
Romney came at Trump, brother.
Romeny would have made a good president and is a great representation of the country. he said some coony shit to appeal to the dregs of the republican party (which Trump is sweeping through because he's tacky and cheap), but I don't hold it against him and know he's a pragmatic leader. I prefered Obama though but they remind me of each other. I think that was the best election we've had in a while.
Here's Trumps response. He says he has a Gucci store worth more than Romney LOL
to be fair Clintons de regulation of banks and sub prime lending les the thr housing bubble of the early 2000's during the first Bush term.
There is always spillover.
Bernie may very well be a strong leader. I've said from the start I want to see Bernie vs. Trump.
But Bernie has yet to fully outline his plans either.
I mean I have a few friends that are Bernie fanatics.
America should be the first priority. I've always said that. I think Trump and Sanders noth understand that.
There is no metric on who will be better. Dar is right about that.
Most of these things are out of the presidents control anyway.
Like I said 18 posts ago, it's not a dictatorship.
It's not a dictatorship at all, it's a system, and you can't have something in the system that doesn't function the way it's supposed to or else the entire operation goes to shit. Sanders is actually intelligent. It's a shame that America is America but I just witness the same thing happen in Nigeria. Jonathan who had ideas and was changing the country was ousted for a former dictator and sponsor or terrorists because people thought he would be 'stronger'. They weren't thinking this because he was (he's a half dead 75 year old man), they were thinking this because they themselves were week and the affinity for authoritarianism in weak people is a strong motivator.
He's president now and senators can't send him bills to approve because he doesn't understand legislative language nor english very well and requests they come read it to him personally which they won't because that's not their job. I can go on and on and the American case won't be as bad because our system is stronger but if a candidate appeals to someone because they're not cooperative or tactful then RIP.
Yea reading something in full usually helps with that.Quote:
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bernie is intelligent. The real shame if you ask me is that these people can't work together.
Although comparing Trump to some of these people is a reach in my opinion.
I'm surprised Trump got this far. Politics aside, hes unpleasant to listen to and even worse to look at. Who the fuck wants a flock of seagulls haired shouty prawn as their leader?
Bernie Sanders seems like the best choice, but realistically Trump is probably up against Bills main bitch.
If we are talking looks than Sanders is the loser. He's Larry David's less funny brother.
But that shit don't matter.
Their all gargoyles.
Sanders looks like he's going to say something hilarious at any minute. He should really just say a bunch of hilarious shit. His voice is also jew'd out which makes you think he's going to say something funny even when you're not looking at him.
It was only a matter of time till the candidates got it poppin with the dixxx
Trump gets accused of having small hands, responds that he not only has large hand, but a large dick as well
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to his credit trump is fucking hilarious and has the most swag of all the candidates.
Sanders actually looks better now than when he was young.
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Damn Bern...
GTFO with that white power bullshit. Nobody wants the jobs the mexicans do, your cutting off 90% the countries work force for shitty jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olive Oil Goombah
You're straight shook if you think banning Muslims and immigrants from this country will keep you safe. Scared little bitches are gonna give the presidency to Trump and Trump's gonna turn around slap dick to your whole family for being moist bitches.
Yeah as a non American its their foreign policy that concerns the rest of the world so much. Going to war has to be passed through congress but didnt George Bush just bypass congress altogether with the war in Iraq? Numerous politicians came out and said that the invasion of Libya wasnt just approved by Hilary, it was her fuckin brainchild. I hope to fuck she does not get elected. I honestly dont see much difference between her and Bush in terms of foreign policy.
Idk why they dont just focus on Americans and stop trying to police the world usually for worse. The stats on poverty in the US are astounding, and when you consider that 4 billion a year goes to Israel, thats TWO MILLION A DAY IN PUBLIC TAXES and yet a huge percentage of Americans are living in poverty. Pretty clear who really runs things. And with Hillary that is not going to change.
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Originally Posted by WARPATH
It's not about safety. It's about not letting people illegally come here. And receive benefits that should be reserved for citizens or legal immigrants.
You're a moron though and probably on a fire water bender so I'll just let you be.